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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> on 2014/12/29 06:51:07 UTC
3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
?
Hello,
for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that intentional
or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
Thanks
Milos
AW: 3.2.3 not available
thoughhttp://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
Hello,
It is on the archive site ob the new coordinates:
http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.2.3/binaries/
Greetings
bernd
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Betreff: Re: 3.2.3 not available thoughhttp://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
wrote:
> we generally switched Maven release canonical download area to
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/
>
> IIRC, http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ was used by Jenkins
> folks
> for automatic Maven version discovery and download, before the change
>
> seems like we didn't took the effort to copy latest releases to this legacy
> location
>
> is this legacy location still useful?
>
well, the "legacy" location is being referenced from the main download
page.
and looking at https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/ I
don't see 3.2.3 either. At our company we currently standardise on 3.2.3
and it's weird that it cannot be currently downloaded from anywhere.
Milos
>
> notice we should add a HEADER or README in the legacy directory to explain
> the
> story
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> Le lundi 29 décembre 2014 16:51:07 Milos Kleint a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> intentional
> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Milos
>
>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
good catch: fixed :)
http://svn.apache.org/r1648412
Regards,
Hervé
Le lundi 29 décembre 2014 18:59:23 Milos Kleint a écrit :
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
>
> wrote:
> > we generally switched Maven release canonical download area to
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/
> >
> > IIRC, http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ was used by Jenkins
> > folks
> > for automatic Maven version discovery and download, before the change
> >
> > seems like we didn't took the effort to copy latest releases to this
> > legacy
> > location
> >
> > is this legacy location still useful?
>
> well, the "legacy" location is being referenced from the main download
> page.
>
> and looking at https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/ I
> don't see 3.2.3 either. At our company we currently standardise on 3.2.3
> and it's weird that it cannot be currently downloaded from anywhere.
>
> Milos
>
> > notice we should add a HEADER or README in the legacy directory to explain
> > the
> > story
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le lundi 29 décembre 2014 16:51:07 Milos Kleint a écrit :
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> >
> > intentional
> >
> > > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Milos
> >
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
wrote:
> we generally switched Maven release canonical download area to
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/
>
> IIRC, http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ was used by Jenkins
> folks
> for automatic Maven version discovery and download, before the change
>
> seems like we didn't took the effort to copy latest releases to this legacy
> location
>
> is this legacy location still useful?
>
well, the "legacy" location is being referenced from the main download
page.
and looking at https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/ I
don't see 3.2.3 either. At our company we currently standardise on 3.2.3
and it's weird that it cannot be currently downloaded from anywhere.
Milos
>
> notice we should add a HEADER or README in the legacy directory to explain
> the
> story
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> Le lundi 29 décembre 2014 16:51:07 Milos Kleint a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> intentional
> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Milos
>
>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
we generally switched Maven release canonical download area to
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/
IIRC, http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ was used by Jenkins folks
for automatic Maven version discovery and download, before the change
seems like we didn't took the effort to copy latest releases to this legacy
location
is this legacy location still useful?
notice we should add a HEADER or README in the legacy directory to explain the
story
Regards,
Hervé
Le lundi 29 décembre 2014 16:51:07 Milos Kleint a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that intentional
> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>
> Thanks
>
> Milos
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
Yes I agree but I preferred to add an ack from the dev team before
proposing such upload
I need to check how it was published before 2.0.9 if I want to publish the
missing set of archives and poms
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> Easy enough to put them there so that it's complete.
>
> On May 21, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jason,
> >
> > It don't find binaries of < 2.0.9 in central. Did I miss something ?
> >
> > I would like (for jenkins) to not remove old releases from the catalog
> > without a real reason ...
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Why don't you just use Maven Central. Those copies are not going
> anywhere.
> >>
> >> On May 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Resurrecting this thread.
> >>> Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> >>> Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because
> it
> >>> is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> >>> And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> >>> /release/maven/maven-3/
> >>> Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> >>> * >= 2.0.9 :
> >>> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> >>> * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
> >>>
> >>> Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> >>> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have
> our
> >>> feedback to have a long term solution if possible
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Why do you need it there?
> >>>>
> >>>> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved
> over
> >>>> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> >>>> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the
> >> way
> >>>> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
> >> Maven
> >>>> Central. It will always be in the same place.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> >>>> intentional
> >>>>> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Milos
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>> Founder, Apache Maven
> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people
> can
> >>>> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Paul Graham
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> -----
> >>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>> http://aheritier.net
> >>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> >>> Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
> >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
> >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
> >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
> >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
> >> signs of decline and decay.
> >>
> >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > http://aheritier.net
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Selfish deeds are the shortest path to self destruction.
>
> -- The Seven Samuari, Akira Kurosawa
>
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>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ ?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.
Easy enough to put them there so that it's complete.
On May 21, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jason,
>
> It don't find binaries of < 2.0.9 in central. Did I miss something ?
>
> I would like (for jenkins) to not remove old releases from the catalog
> without a real reason ...
>
> Arnaud
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>
>> Why don't you just use Maven Central. Those copies are not going anywhere.
>>
>> On May 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Resurrecting this thread.
>>> Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
>>> Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because it
>>> is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
>>> And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
>>> /release/maven/maven-3/
>>> Sadly no central isn't a better solution
>>> * >= 2.0.9 :
>>> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
>>> * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
>>>
>>> Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
>>> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
>>> feedback to have a long term solution if possible
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why do you need it there?
>>>>
>>>> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over
>>>> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
>>>> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the
>> way
>>>> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
>> Maven
>>>> Central. It will always be in the same place.
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
>>>> intentional
>>>>> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Milos
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder, Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
>>>> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>>>>
>>>> -- Paul Graham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----
>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>> http://aheritier.net
>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
>>> Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
>> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
>> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
>> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
>> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
>> signs of decline and decay.
>>
>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> -----
> Arnaud Héritier
> http://aheritier.net
> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> Twitter/Skype : aheritier
Thanks,
Jason
----------------------------------------------------------
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Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
http://twitter.com/takari_io
---------------------------------------------------------
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ ?
Posted by Manfred Moser <ma...@mosabuam.com>.
Fair enough.
As a user of both tools I think there might be a need to distinguish between what is available in new installs and what just works due to legacy installs.
E.g. the version drop down could hide all the 2.x versions.
But I realize that even for new installs you might have a new for old version so there is probably no right way to make it simple and powerful at the same time ;-)
Manfred
Arnaud Héritier wrote on 22.05.2015 01:07:
> Hi Manfred,
>
> With my Maven committer hat I would prefer to restrict the default
> choices to the latest stable releases we have.
>
> With my Jenkins committer hat I see this as an enhancement request.
> Jenkins should allow for each product to limit/classify the proposed
> version. For sure the rule won't be the same for Maven, Gradle, Ant and the
> list for each product will evolve. For sure I cannot for now remove older
> versions to add the most recent because it will be considered as a
> bug/regression for current users who are using it to automatically install
> an old Maven version (the catalog is used by all instances, its not
> something integrated/hardcoded in jenkins). It is exactly the problem that
> groovy has today with the shutdown of codehaus (
> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-310)
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Manfred Moser <ma...@mosabuam.com> wrote:
>
>> Hm ... isnt the fact that Maven 2.x is deprecated reason enough to NOT
>> offer it in Jenkins. From my memory 2.0.8 and 2.0.9 had some severe
>> problems and only 2.0.10 sort of fixed things.
>>
>> Personally I would think that you should restrict the list in Jenkins even
>> excluding 2.x altogether. Or maybe just having 2.2.1 only.
>>
>> And if someone really needs it they can always install whatever version
>> (and pain) they choose via the tar.gz/zip archive method based off a
>> different server.
>>
>> Manfred
>>
>> Arnaud Héritier wrote on 21.05.2015 15:21:
>>
>> > Jason,
>> >
>> > It don't find binaries of < 2.0.9 in central. Did I miss something ?
>> >
>> > I would like (for jenkins) to not remove old releases from the catalog
>> > without a real reason ...
>> >
>> > Arnaud
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why don't you just use Maven Central. Those copies are not going
>> anywhere.
>> >>
>> >> On May 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Resurrecting this thread.
>> >> > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
>> >> > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2
>> because it
>> >> > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
>> >> > And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
>> >> > /release/maven/maven-3/
>> >> > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
>> >> > * >= 2.0.9 :
>> >> > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
>> >> > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
>> >> >
>> >> > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
>> >> > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have
>> our
>> >> > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Why do you need it there?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved
>> over
>> >> >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
>> >> >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's
>> the
>> >> way
>> >> >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
>> >> Maven
>> >> >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hello,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
>> >> >> intentional
>> >> >>> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Milos
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jason
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Jason van Zyl
>> >> >> Founder, Apache Maven
>> >> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people
>> can
>> >> >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- Paul Graham
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > -----
>> >> > Arnaud Héritier
>> >> > http://aheritier.net
>> >> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
>> >> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jason
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Jason van Zyl
>> >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
>> >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
>> >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
>> >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
>> >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
>> >> signs of decline and decay.
>> >>
>> >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > -----
>> > Arnaud Héritier
>> > http://aheritier.net
>> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
>> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>> >
>>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
Hi Manfred,
With my Maven committer hat I would prefer to restrict the default
choices to the latest stable releases we have.
With my Jenkins committer hat I see this as an enhancement request.
Jenkins should allow for each product to limit/classify the proposed
version. For sure the rule won't be the same for Maven, Gradle, Ant and the
list for each product will evolve. For sure I cannot for now remove older
versions to add the most recent because it will be considered as a
bug/regression for current users who are using it to automatically install
an old Maven version (the catalog is used by all instances, its not
something integrated/hardcoded in jenkins). It is exactly the problem that
groovy has today with the shutdown of codehaus (
https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-310)
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Manfred Moser <ma...@mosabuam.com> wrote:
> Hm ... isnt the fact that Maven 2.x is deprecated reason enough to NOT
> offer it in Jenkins. From my memory 2.0.8 and 2.0.9 had some severe
> problems and only 2.0.10 sort of fixed things.
>
> Personally I would think that you should restrict the list in Jenkins even
> excluding 2.x altogether. Or maybe just having 2.2.1 only.
>
> And if someone really needs it they can always install whatever version
> (and pain) they choose via the tar.gz/zip archive method based off a
> different server.
>
> Manfred
>
> Arnaud Héritier wrote on 21.05.2015 15:21:
>
> > Jason,
> >
> > It don't find binaries of < 2.0.9 in central. Did I miss something ?
> >
> > I would like (for jenkins) to not remove old releases from the catalog
> > without a real reason ...
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Why don't you just use Maven Central. Those copies are not going
> anywhere.
> >>
> >> On May 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Resurrecting this thread.
> >> > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> >> > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2
> because it
> >> > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> >> > And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> >> > /release/maven/maven-3/
> >> > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> >> > * >= 2.0.9 :
> >> > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> >> > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
> >> >
> >> > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> >> > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have
> our
> >> > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Why do you need it there?
> >> >>
> >> >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved
> over
> >> >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> >> >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's
> the
> >> way
> >> >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
> >> Maven
> >> >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hello,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> >> >> intentional
> >> >>> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Milos
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> >> Founder, Apache Maven
> >> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people
> can
> >> >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> >> >>
> >> >> -- Paul Graham
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -----
> >> > Arnaud Héritier
> >> > http://aheritier.net
> >> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> >> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
> >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
> >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
> >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
> >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
> >> signs of decline and decay.
> >>
> >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ ?
Posted by Manfred Moser <ma...@mosabuam.com>.
Hm ... isnt the fact that Maven 2.x is deprecated reason enough to NOT offer it in Jenkins. From my memory 2.0.8 and 2.0.9 had some severe problems and only 2.0.10 sort of fixed things.
Personally I would think that you should restrict the list in Jenkins even excluding 2.x altogether. Or maybe just having 2.2.1 only.
And if someone really needs it they can always install whatever version (and pain) they choose via the tar.gz/zip archive method based off a different server.
Manfred
Arnaud Héritier wrote on 21.05.2015 15:21:
> Jason,
>
> It don't find binaries of < 2.0.9 in central. Did I miss something ?
>
> I would like (for jenkins) to not remove old releases from the catalog
> without a real reason ...
>
> Arnaud
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>
>> Why don't you just use Maven Central. Those copies are not going anywhere.
>>
>> On May 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Resurrecting this thread.
>> > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
>> > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because it
>> > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
>> > And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
>> > /release/maven/maven-3/
>> > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
>> > * >= 2.0.9 :
>> > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
>> > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
>> >
>> > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
>> > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
>> > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why do you need it there?
>> >>
>> >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over
>> >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
>> >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the
>> way
>> >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
>> Maven
>> >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
>> >> intentional
>> >>> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Milos
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jason
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Jason van Zyl
>> >> Founder, Apache Maven
>> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
>> >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>> >>
>> >> -- Paul Graham
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > -----
>> > Arnaud Héritier
>> > http://aheritier.net
>> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
>> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
>> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
>> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
>> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
>> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
>> signs of decline and decay.
>>
>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
Jason,
It don't find binaries of < 2.0.9 in central. Did I miss something ?
I would like (for jenkins) to not remove old releases from the catalog
without a real reason ...
Arnaud
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> Why don't you just use Maven Central. Those copies are not going anywhere.
>
> On May 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Resurrecting this thread.
> > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because it
> > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> > And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> > /release/maven/maven-3/
> > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> > * >= 2.0.9 :
> > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
> >
> > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
> > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Why do you need it there?
> >>
> >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over
> >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the
> way
> >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
> Maven
> >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
> >>
> >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> >> intentional
> >>> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Milos
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
> >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> >>
> >> -- Paul Graham
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > -----
> > Arnaud Héritier
> > http://aheritier.net
> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
> signs of decline and decay.
>
> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ ?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.
Why don't you just use Maven Central. Those copies are not going anywhere.
On May 21, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Resurrecting this thread.
> Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because it
> is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> /release/maven/maven-3/
> Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> * >= 2.0.9 :
> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
>
> Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
> feedback to have a long term solution if possible
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>
>> Why do you need it there?
>>
>> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over
>> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
>> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the way
>> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from Maven
>> Central. It will always be in the same place.
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
>> intentional
>>> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Milos
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder, Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
>> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>>
>> -- Paul Graham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> -----
> Arnaud Héritier
> http://aheritier.net
> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> Twitter/Skype : aheritier
Thanks,
Jason
----------------------------------------------------------
Jason van Zyl
Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
http://twitter.com/takari_io
---------------------------------------------------------
Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
signs of decline and decay.
-- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
I found 2.0.x sources in SVN but I don't remember at all how we packaged
them
For now I prepared an update of the Jenkins script to use apache archives +
maven central
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I will see if we can easily upload the missing versions on central (I
> don't remember why we didn't do it previously) otherwise I'll aggregate
> central + apache archives
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Right, the future proof source for Maven distros should be the central
>> repo. Primarily because the coordinates will not change.
>> Den 23 maj 2015 18:53 skrev "Hervé BOUTEMY" <he...@free.fr>:
>>
>> > notice that with Maven 4, in xxx monthes/years..., we probably will have
>> > another /dist/ directory, but distribution artifact coordinates in
>> central
>> > should not change
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Hervé
>> >
>> > Le vendredi 22 mai 2015 15:05:13 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
>> > > Hi Dennis,
>> > >
>> > > No I see no real issue of getting them from several sources.
>> > > I want just to be sure that we are agree for the long term to be
>> sure
>> > to
>> > > not have to update them too often
>> > >
>> > > Arnaud
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > Hi Arnaud,
>> > > >
>> > > > I stumbled upon that Jenkins issue last week, and had a quick look
>> at
>> > > > the pull request available. From what I could tell, the proposed
>> > > > solution was to use the (legacy) ASF dist area *and* Central to get
>> > > > the best of both worlds. Do you see a problem having 2 data sources
>> > > > for the Jenkins crawler?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Arnaud Héritier <
>> aheritier@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > Resurrecting this thread.
>> > > > > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
>> > > > > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2
>> > because
>> > > > > it
>> > > > > is checking only in
>> http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
>> > > > > And it doesn't see the content of
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
>> > > > > /release/maven/maven-3/
>> > > > > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
>> > > > > * >= 2.0.9 :
>> > > > >
>> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
>> > > > > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but
>> ..)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
>> > > > > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to
>> > have our
>> > > > > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Cheers
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >> Why do you need it there?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it
>> evolved
>> > > > >> over
>> > > > >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
>> > > > >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but
>> that's
>> > the
>> > > >
>> > > > way
>> > > >
>> > > > >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it
>> > from
>> > > >
>> > > > Maven
>> > > >
>> > > > >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >> > Hello,
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> intentional
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Thanks
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Milos
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Jason
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > >> Jason van Zyl
>> > > > >> Founder, Apache Maven
>> > > > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> > > > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good
>> people
>> > > > >> can
>> > > > >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> -- Paul Graham
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > -----
>> > > > > Arnaud Héritier
>> > > > > http://aheritier.net
>> > > > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
>> > > > > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Dennis Lundberg
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
I will see if we can easily upload the missing versions on central (I don't
remember why we didn't do it previously) otherwise I'll aggregate central +
apache archives
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org> wrote:
> Right, the future proof source for Maven distros should be the central
> repo. Primarily because the coordinates will not change.
> Den 23 maj 2015 18:53 skrev "Hervé BOUTEMY" <he...@free.fr>:
>
> > notice that with Maven 4, in xxx monthes/years..., we probably will have
> > another /dist/ directory, but distribution artifact coordinates in
> central
> > should not change
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le vendredi 22 mai 2015 15:05:13 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
> > > Hi Dennis,
> > >
> > > No I see no real issue of getting them from several sources.
> > > I want just to be sure that we are agree for the long term to be sure
> > to
> > > not have to update them too often
> > >
> > > Arnaud
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Arnaud,
> > > >
> > > > I stumbled upon that Jenkins issue last week, and had a quick look at
> > > > the pull request available. From what I could tell, the proposed
> > > > solution was to use the (legacy) ASF dist area *and* Central to get
> > > > the best of both worlds. Do you see a problem having 2 data sources
> > > > for the Jenkins crawler?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Arnaud Héritier <
> aheritier@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Resurrecting this thread.
> > > > > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> > > > > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2
> > because
> > > > > it
> > > > > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> > > > > And it doesn't see the content of
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> > > > > /release/maven/maven-3/
> > > > > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> > > > > * >= 2.0.9 :
> > > > > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> > > > > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but
> ..)
> > > > >
> > > > > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> > > > > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to
> > have our
> > > > > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> Why do you need it there?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it
> evolved
> > > > >> over
> > > > >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> > > > >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's
> > the
> > > >
> > > > way
> > > >
> > > > >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it
> > from
> > > >
> > > > Maven
> > > >
> > > > >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> > Hello,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> > > > >>
> > > > >> intentional
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Milos
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jason
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> Jason van Zyl
> > > > >> Founder, Apache Maven
> > > > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > > > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good
> people
> > > > >> can
> > > > >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -- Paul Graham
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > -----
> > > > > Arnaud Héritier
> > > > > http://aheritier.net
> > > > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> > > > > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dennis Lundberg
> > > >
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Right, the future proof source for Maven distros should be the central
repo. Primarily because the coordinates will not change.
Den 23 maj 2015 18:53 skrev "Hervé BOUTEMY" <he...@free.fr>:
> notice that with Maven 4, in xxx monthes/years..., we probably will have
> another /dist/ directory, but distribution artifact coordinates in central
> should not change
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> Le vendredi 22 mai 2015 15:05:13 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
> > Hi Dennis,
> >
> > No I see no real issue of getting them from several sources.
> > I want just to be sure that we are agree for the long term to be sure
> to
> > not have to update them too often
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > Hi Arnaud,
> > >
> > > I stumbled upon that Jenkins issue last week, and had a quick look at
> > > the pull request available. From what I could tell, the proposed
> > > solution was to use the (legacy) ASF dist area *and* Central to get
> > > the best of both worlds. Do you see a problem having 2 data sources
> > > for the Jenkins crawler?
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Arnaud Héritier <aheritier@gmail.com
> >
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Resurrecting this thread.
> > > > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> > > > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2
> because
> > > > it
> > > > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> > > > And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> > > > /release/maven/maven-3/
> > > > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> > > > * >= 2.0.9 :
> > > > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> > > > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
> > > >
> > > > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> > > > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to
> have our
> > > > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
> wrote:
> > > >> Why do you need it there?
> > > >>
> > > >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved
> > > >> over
> > > >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> > > >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's
> the
> > >
> > > way
> > >
> > > >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it
> from
> > >
> > > Maven
> > >
> > > >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> > Hello,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> > > >>
> > > >> intentional
> > > >>
> > > >> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Milos
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> Jason
> > > >>
> > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> Jason van Zyl
> > > >> Founder, Apache Maven
> > > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people
> > > >> can
> > > >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> > > >>
> > > >> -- Paul Graham
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -----
> > > > Arnaud Héritier
> > > > http://aheritier.net
> > > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> > > > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dennis Lundberg
> > >
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/?
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
notice that with Maven 4, in xxx monthes/years..., we probably will have
another /dist/ directory, but distribution artifact coordinates in central
should not change
Regards,
Hervé
Le vendredi 22 mai 2015 15:05:13 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
> Hi Dennis,
>
> No I see no real issue of getting them from several sources.
> I want just to be sure that we are agree for the long term to be sure to
> not have to update them too often
>
> Arnaud
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Arnaud,
> >
> > I stumbled upon that Jenkins issue last week, and had a quick look at
> > the pull request available. From what I could tell, the proposed
> > solution was to use the (legacy) ASF dist area *and* Central to get
> > the best of both worlds. Do you see a problem having 2 data sources
> > for the Jenkins crawler?
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Resurrecting this thread.
> > > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> > > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because
> > > it
> > > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> > > And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> > > /release/maven/maven-3/
> > > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> > > * >= 2.0.9 :
> > > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> > > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
> > >
> > > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> > > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
> > > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> > >> Why do you need it there?
> > >>
> > >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved
> > >> over
> > >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> > >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the
> >
> > way
> >
> > >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
> >
> > Maven
> >
> > >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> > >>
> > >> intentional
> > >>
> > >> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Milos
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Jason van Zyl
> > >> Founder, Apache Maven
> > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people
> > >> can
> > >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> > >>
> > >> -- Paul Graham
> > >
> > > --
> > > -----
> > > Arnaud Héritier
> > > http://aheritier.net
> > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> > > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> >
> > --
> > Dennis Lundberg
> >
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dennis,
No I see no real issue of getting them from several sources.
I want just to be sure that we are agree for the long term to be sure to
not have to update them too often
Arnaud
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Arnaud,
>
> I stumbled upon that Jenkins issue last week, and had a quick look at
> the pull request available. From what I could tell, the proposed
> solution was to use the (legacy) ASF dist area *and* Central to get
> the best of both worlds. Do you see a problem having 2 data sources
> for the Jenkins crawler?
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Resurrecting this thread.
> > Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> > Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because it
> > is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> > And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> > /release/maven/maven-3/
> > Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> > * >= 2.0.9 :
> > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> > * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
> >
> > Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
> > feedback to have a long term solution if possible
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Why do you need it there?
> >>
> >> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over
> >> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> >> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the
> way
> >> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from
> Maven
> >> Central. It will always be in the same place.
> >>
> >> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> >> intentional
> >> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Milos
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
> >> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> >>
> >> -- Paul Graham
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > -----
> > Arnaud Héritier
> > http://aheritier.net
> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>
>
>
> --
> Dennis Lundberg
>
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
?
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Hi Arnaud,
I stumbled upon that Jenkins issue last week, and had a quick look at
the pull request available. From what I could tell, the proposed
solution was to use the (legacy) ASF dist area *and* Central to get
the best of both worlds. Do you see a problem having 2 data sources
for the Jenkins crawler?
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Resurrecting this thread.
> Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
> Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because it
> is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
> And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
> /release/maven/maven-3/
> Sadly no central isn't a better solution
> * >= 2.0.9 :
> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
> * < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
>
> Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
> feedback to have a long term solution if possible
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>
>> Why do you need it there?
>>
>> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over
>> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
>> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the way
>> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from Maven
>> Central. It will always be in the same place.
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
>> intentional
>> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Milos
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder, Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
>> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>>
>> -- Paul Graham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> -----
> Arnaud Héritier
> http://aheritier.net
> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> Twitter/Skype : aheritier
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Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
Resurrecting this thread.
Having a standardised place to find all versions was a good thing
Because of the change jenkins doesn't propose anything > 3.2.2 because it
is checking only in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
And it doesn't see the content of https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist
/release/maven/maven-3/
Sadly no central isn't a better solution
* >= 2.0.9 :
http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/
* < 2.0.9 : not available in central AFAIK (yes they are old but ..)
Before fixing the Jenkins Catalog (
https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-181) I would need to have our
feedback to have a long term solution if possible
Cheers
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> Why do you need it there?
>
> The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over
> time where things disappear from one place to another (official
> distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the way
> it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from Maven
> Central. It will always be in the same place.
>
> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that
> intentional
> > or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Milos
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder, Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>
> -- Paul Graham
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
-----
Arnaud Héritier
http://aheritier.net
Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
Twitter/Skype : aheritier
Re: 3.2.3 not available though http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/ ?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.
Why do you need it there?
The way binaries are kept at Apache is inconsistent. How it evolved over time where things disappear from one place to another (official distribution to archives) I don't find makes much sense but that's the way it is. If you require a distribution in a standard place take it from Maven Central. It will always be in the same place.
On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> for some reason 3.2.3 is not available in the archives, is that intentional
> or something went wrong with the 3.2.5 release?
>
> Thanks
>
> Milos
Thanks,
Jason
----------------------------------------------------------
Jason van Zyl
Founder, Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
http://twitter.com/takari_io
---------------------------------------------------------
What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
-- Paul Graham