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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by SWIT <ma...@s-wit.net> on 2003/11/07 01:11:57 UTC
[users@httpd] why
why do i get messages from elzm saying this: the dates is OCT 26 ???
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
users@httpd.apache.org mailing list.
Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,
I will remove your address from the users mailing list,
without further notice.
I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have
bounced from your address.
Here are the message numbers:
33822
33851
33853
33951
33952
33953
33955
33959
33977
33978
34003
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34004
34052
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34131
34171
34177
34188
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--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
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Received: (qmail 29714 invoked for bounce); 26 Oct 2003 06:12:24 -0000
Date: 26 Oct 2003 06:12:24 -0000
From: MAILER-DAEMON@apache.org
To: users-return-33822-@httpd.apache.org
Subject: failure notice
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<ma...@s-wit.net>:
68.156.89.107 failed after I sent the message.
Remote host said: 550 Message could not be sent due to inappropriate content
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Re: [users@httpd] why
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, SWIT wrote:
> but from OCT 26 ? and now getting them email about them ?
> Thats 11 days. Even the post office insn't that slow.
> > You have some crappy MTA that is rejecting messages to the users mailing
> > list for some unspecified reason having to do with their content. Ask
> > your mail server administrator.
The mailing list manager does not send you notification every time a
message to you bounces. It only sends you a notification after a bunch
have bounced. Sending a notification after each one doesn't make much
sense since, if the mailing list message bounced, there is a good chance
any notification will bounce too.
Joshua.
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Re: [users@httpd] Huge access.log effect
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Richard Correia wrote:
> My server administrator is not aware of logrotate and I need to explain
> him the effect of huge size access.log and error.log.
>
> Our server is pIII 733 Mhz with 512 MB RAM running red hat Linux.
> Apache version is 1.3.23
>
> Access.log size is 1.7GB [1.7 Gigabytes]
> Error.log size is 6.1MB
>
> I am sure that 1.7GB access file will affect the server performance. How
> can I explain my administrator about this ?
I'm not sure if it will affect performance or not. But you might be in
for a nasty surprise, since many OSes won't support files > 2GB. The
result could be lost logs or a frozen web server.
Joshua.
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Re: [users@httpd] Huge access.log effect
Posted by Matt Simonsen <ma...@careercast.com>.
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 05:36, Richard Correia wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My server administrator is not aware of logrotate
He must be aware that logs eventually need to be rotated. If you have to
convince him of this I'd be a little concerned.
> and I need to explain him the effect of huge size access.log and error.log
I don't know there's anything to explain.
Practically one really good reason for regular rotation is so that
compression is possible/ hurts less. You can't compress if you can't
rotate files (unless you pipe your log through gzip, but that's another
issue). Furthermore, regular rotation helps in that if you have a 20
gigs of log file data and you want to read only the last 10 lines you're
going to be in for a long wait if all the data is in one file. On the
other hand, if that's split into 100 small dated files it's much faster
to find what you want since you would need to uncompress 1/100 as much
data.
> I am sure that 1.7GB access file will affect the server performance.
I'm not aware of a serious performance ding (or any for that matter) for
writing to a larger log file... are you really sure or do you just
suspect it's this way? Is there something you know about large files and
performance that would add to my understanding of the issue?
Matt
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[users@httpd] Huge access.log effect
Posted by Richard Correia <ri...@ugamsolutions.com>.
Hi,
My server administrator is not aware of logrotate and I need to explain
him the effect of huge size access.log and error.log.
Our server is pIII 733 Mhz with 512 MB RAM running red hat Linux.
Apache version is 1.3.23
Access.log size is 1.7GB [1.7 Gigabytes]
Error.log size is 6.1MB
I am sure that 1.7GB access file will affect the server performance. How
can I explain my administrator about this ?
Thanks
Richard
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[users@httpd] Log analyzer mod_gzip
Posted by Richard Correia <ri...@ugamsolutions.com>.
Hi,
Anybody using separate log analyzer for mod_gzip ?
I have tried googlize "log analyzer mod_gzip", but no LUCK.
Thanks
Richard
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Re: [users@httpd] why
Posted by Leif W <wa...@usa.net>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "SWIT" <ma...@s-wit.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] why
> but from OCT 26 ? and now getting them email about them ?
> Thats 11 days. Even the post office insn't that slow.
I'm not an ezmlm admin but I can understand or at least make an educated
guess of what it did and why, based on the message it tells us.
> Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
> message I received.
>
> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
bounces,
> I will remove your address from the users mailing list,
> without further notice.
>
> I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have
> bounced from your address.
[list of 36 IDs]
It noticed some problems, so it kept track of it and decided to do some
testing. Smart design, why bother over transient errors which will
inevitably happen, but don't outright ignore errors either. It did some
testing. Maybe it took a few days for the testing, waiting to see if the
mailbox opened up, and some went through ok, and maybe some more failed.
Eventually it decided something was wrong and tried to send you a message
about it.
Leif
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Re: [users@httpd] why
Posted by SWIT <ma...@s-wit.net>.
but from OCT 26 ? and now getting them email about them ?
Thats 11 days. Even the post office insn't that slow.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Slive" <jo...@slive.ca>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] why
>
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, SWIT wrote:
>
> > why do i get messages from elzm saying this: the dates is OCT 26 ???
> >
> > Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
> > have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
> > message I received.
>
> > <ma...@s-wit.net>:
> > 68.156.89.107 failed after I sent the message.
> > Remote host said: 550 Message could not be sent due to inappropriate
content
>
> You have some crappy MTA that is rejecting messages to the users mailing
> list for some unspecified reason having to do with their content. Ask
> your mail server administrator.
>
> Joshua.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] why
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, SWIT wrote:
> why do i get messages from elzm saying this: the dates is OCT 26 ???
>
> Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
> message I received.
> <ma...@s-wit.net>:
> 68.156.89.107 failed after I sent the message.
> Remote host said: 550 Message could not be sent due to inappropriate content
You have some crappy MTA that is rejecting messages to the users mailing
list for some unspecified reason having to do with their content. Ask
your mail server administrator.
Joshua.
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