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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by David Reid <dr...@jetnet.co.uk> on 2000/06/29 17:05:28 UTC
Alpha 5
Are there any plans to roll this soon?
The "land a man on the moon" thread had a lot of support so maybe we should
keep the momentum going?
david
"I try never to get involved in my own life,
it's way too complicated."
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by rb...@covalent.net.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
>
> > > I know it's a bit of effort but we've had a few changes to configuration
> > > and a wider airing might be in all of our best interests!
> >
> > Sorry about the recent commits, especially if this holds up the alpha. I
> > just wanted to fix a few bugs today. :-)
>
> what's the status of the bug system?
We are using GNATS for right now. When Brian finishes with newlocus, I
believe we will be talking again about bugzilla or the tigris system.
Ryan
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Re: Alpha 5
Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@valueclick.com>.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> > I know it's a bit of effort but we've had a few changes to configuration
> > and a wider airing might be in all of our best interests!
>
> Sorry about the recent commits, especially if this holds up the alpha. I
> just wanted to fix a few bugs today. :-)
what's the status of the bug system?
- ask
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Re: Alpha 5
Posted by rb...@covalent.net.
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, David Reid wrote:
> I think someone volunteered, so shall we?
>
> I know it's a bit of effort but we've had a few changes to configuration
> and a wider airing might be in all of our best interests!
Sorry about the recent commits, especially if this holds up the alpha. I
just wanted to fix a few bugs today. :-)
Ryan
_______________________________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
406 29th St.
San Francisco, CA 94131
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Re: Alpha 5
Posted by David Reid <da...@jetnet.co.uk>.
I think someone volunteered, so shall we?
I know it's a bit of effort but we've had a few changes to configuration
and a wider airing might be in all of our best interests!
david
>Nope. Release early, release often. I'll work on a release after the
DAV is
>up and running. If a5 happens to come out before then, well fine.
>
>We are not in the "release often" mode right now. We should never hold
up
>for specific changes. Just release it. Those changes will appear in the
next
>release. Simple as that.
>
>Slowing down a release cycle is only helpful for *final* releases.
People
>don't want to upgrade their 1.3.x servers every two weeks. But alphas?
>Almost by definition, these are not production servers, but
test/play/dev
>servers. If thsoe people feel like picking up a new version, they will.
No
>harm in tossing another one out there. In fact, it can do a lot of good.
>
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
Nope. Release early, release often. I'll work on a release after the DAV is
up and running. If a5 happens to come out before then, well fine.
We are not in the "release often" mode right now. We should never hold up
for specific changes. Just release it. Those changes will appear in the next
release. Simple as that.
Slowing down a release cycle is only helpful for *final* releases. People
don't want to upgrade their 1.3.x servers every two weeks. But alphas?
Almost by definition, these are not production servers, but test/play/dev
servers. If thsoe people feel like picking up a new version, they will. No
harm in tossing another one out there. In fact, it can do a lot of good.
Cheers,
-g
On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:05:19PM +0100, David Reid wrote:
> If that's the case then maybe we should aim for Monday morning and give you
> time to get DAV working?
>
> david
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Stein" <gs...@lyra.org>
> To: <ne...@apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Alpha 5
>
>
> > On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 08:53:20AM -0700, rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, David Reid wrote:
> > >
> > > > Then do we just need a date and a victim. Oh I mean an RM? :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yep, and it would be REALLY great if as soon as we have both we update
> the
> > > STATUS file.
> >
> > I'm going to work on mod_dav integration while Ryan reviews my response to
> > his challenege problem. Once I get the DAV stuff working, then I'll do it.
> > If somebody beats me to it, then great. I expect to get DAV limping very
> > late today, or tomorrow.
> >
> > Anybody out there who wants to RM *today* ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -g
> >
> > --
> > Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
> >
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by David Reid <dr...@jetnet.co.uk>.
If that's the case then maybe we should aim for Monday morning and give you
time to get DAV working?
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Stein" <gs...@lyra.org>
To: <ne...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Alpha 5
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 08:53:20AM -0700, rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, David Reid wrote:
> >
> > > Then do we just need a date and a victim. Oh I mean an RM? :)
> > >
> >
> > Yep, and it would be REALLY great if as soon as we have both we update
the
> > STATUS file.
>
> I'm going to work on mod_dav integration while Ryan reviews my response to
> his challenege problem. Once I get the DAV stuff working, then I'll do it.
> If somebody beats me to it, then great. I expect to get DAV limping very
> late today, or tomorrow.
>
> Anybody out there who wants to RM *today* ?
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> --
> Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
>
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@valueclick.com>.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> [...]
> > Anybody out there who wants to RM *today* ?
>
> Sure, I can give it a spin again.
argh, shit. My world just about blew up so I won't be able to make
it today or tomorrow.
If noone does it before the weekend I can do it there.
- ask
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Re: Alpha 5
Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@valueclick.com>.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Greg Stein wrote:
[...]
> Anybody out there who wants to RM *today* ?
Sure, I can give it a spin again.
- ask
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Re: Alpha 5
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 08:53:20AM -0700, rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, David Reid wrote:
>
> > Then do we just need a date and a victim. Oh I mean an RM? :)
> >
>
> Yep, and it would be REALLY great if as soon as we have both we update the
> STATUS file.
I'm going to work on mod_dav integration while Ryan reviews my response to
his challenege problem. Once I get the DAV stuff working, then I'll do it.
If somebody beats me to it, then great. I expect to get DAV limping very
late today, or tomorrow.
Anybody out there who wants to RM *today* ?
Cheers,
-g
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by rb...@covalent.net.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, David Reid wrote:
> Then do we just need a date and a victim. Oh I mean an RM? :)
>
Yep, and it would be REALLY great if as soon as we have both we update the
STATUS file.
Ryan
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by David Reid <dr...@jetnet.co.uk>.
Then do we just need a date and a victim. Oh I mean an RM? :)
david
----- Original Message -----
From: <rb...@covalent.net>
To: <ne...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Alpha 5
>
> > Hmmm, I wondered about that. I'd rather actually roll an alpha now
BEFORE
> > we have the filtering patch in place, then roll again once it's there.
I
> > realise it's more work (and if I were in a place where I could do the
> > rolling I would volunteer but I'm not so I won't) but there have been a
lot
> > of changes and having another alpha doesn't hurt anything but does
provide
> > another cue for testing that we need.
> >
> > As we keep saying, it is ONLY an alpha!
>
> That makes sense. Let me put it this way then. I am not against an alpha
> at all. The more alpha's we have the better off we are. I would REALLY
> prefer to not make this alpha. I have a lot on my plate right now
> (Apache, work, and non-work stuff) and an alpha really requires a lot of
> time.
>
> I would make one request to whoever does do the alpha. The instructions
> for rolling releases says to wait 24 hrs between putting it on the site
> and making the announcement. The group decided to not follow that
> instruction anymore. We always just get scooped, because /. and freshmeat
> end up making our announcement for us. :-) At least that is my
> understanding.
>
> Ryan
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
> Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
> 406 29th St.
> San Francisco, CA 94131
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by rb...@covalent.net.
> Hmmm, I wondered about that. I'd rather actually roll an alpha now BEFORE
> we have the filtering patch in place, then roll again once it's there. I
> realise it's more work (and if I were in a place where I could do the
> rolling I would volunteer but I'm not so I won't) but there have been a lot
> of changes and having another alpha doesn't hurt anything but does provide
> another cue for testing that we need.
>
> As we keep saying, it is ONLY an alpha!
That makes sense. Let me put it this way then. I am not against an alpha
at all. The more alpha's we have the better off we are. I would REALLY
prefer to not make this alpha. I have a lot on my plate right now
(Apache, work, and non-work stuff) and an alpha really requires a lot of
time.
I would make one request to whoever does do the alpha. The instructions
for rolling releases says to wait 24 hrs between putting it on the site
and making the announcement. The group decided to not follow that
instruction anymore. We always just get scooped, because /. and freshmeat
end up making our announcement for us. :-) At least that is my
understanding.
Ryan
_______________________________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
406 29th St.
San Francisco, CA 94131
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Re: Alpha 5
Posted by David Reid <dr...@jetnet.co.uk>.
Hmmm, I wondered about that. I'd rather actually roll an alpha now BEFORE
we have the filtering patch in place, then roll again once it's there. I
realise it's more work (and if I were in a place where I could do the
rolling I would volunteer but I'm not so I won't) but there have been a lot
of changes and having another alpha doesn't hurt anything but does provide
another cue for testing that we need.
As we keep saying, it is ONLY an alpha!
david
----- Original Message -----
From: <rb...@covalent.net>
To: "Apache (new-httpd)" <ne...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Alpha 5
>
> Not yet. I am not in favor of rolling this until the filtering thread is
> finished. Basically, I think if we can finish the filtering thread in the
> next day or two (VERY LIKELY), we can have a patch in within a week (or a
> decision to not include a patch), and then we roll the next alpha.
>
> Basically, I would like one alpha with filtering if we are going to
> include it.
>
> Two or three weeks later we roll a beta :-)
>
> Ryan
>
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, David Reid wrote:
>
> > Are there any plans to roll this soon?
> >
> > The "land a man on the moon" thread had a lot of support so maybe we
should
> > keep the momentum going?
> >
> > david
> >
> > "I try never to get involved in my own life,
> > it's way too complicated."
> >
>
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
> Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
> 406 29th St.
> San Francisco, CA 94131
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
>
>
Re: Alpha 5
Posted by rb...@covalent.net.
Not yet. I am not in favor of rolling this until the filtering thread is
finished. Basically, I think if we can finish the filtering thread in the
next day or two (VERY LIKELY), we can have a patch in within a week (or a
decision to not include a patch), and then we roll the next alpha.
Basically, I would like one alpha with filtering if we are going to
include it.
Two or three weeks later we roll a beta :-)
Ryan
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, David Reid wrote:
> Are there any plans to roll this soon?
>
> The "land a man on the moon" thread had a lot of support so maybe we should
> keep the momentum going?
>
> david
>
> "I try never to get involved in my own life,
> it's way too complicated."
>
_______________________________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
406 29th St.
San Francisco, CA 94131
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