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[VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
switching to Git.

+1 for me

-- 
Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
Also, Ant recently switched to Git. It might be worth inquiring as to their
experiences with it.


On 5 August 2014 12:06, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> EGit is terrible. I recommend SourceTree as a nice GUI for Git. It
> certainly makes it easier to do advanced things with resolving merge
> conflicts.
>
> For what it's worth, the instructions here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/logging/UsingGitWithLogging
> with slight adaptions worked quite well. However, there are limitations
> with using this due to Subversion. For instance, you need to keep your
> repository history linear in order to properly commit back to svn.
>
>
> On 5 August 2014 10:43, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> I will vote +0.  With Intellij one is just as seamless as the other and
>> to date I have found ways around needing branches.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am -0. SVN does not get in my way. Git is cool, OK, and like the
>> commit/push split, but I find the Eclipse SVN tooling a little easier to
>> deal with than EGit. For example, Subclipse provides an SVN Console but
>> EGit does not.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>>> switching to Git.
>>>
>>> +1 for me
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>



-- 
Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
EGit is terrible. I recommend SourceTree as a nice GUI for Git. It
certainly makes it easier to do advanced things with resolving merge
conflicts.

For what it's worth, the instructions here:
http://wiki.apache.org/logging/UsingGitWithLogging
with slight adaptions worked quite well. However, there are limitations
with using this due to Subversion. For instance, you need to keep your
repository history linear in order to properly commit back to svn.


On 5 August 2014 10:43, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> I will vote +0.  With Intellij one is just as seamless as the other and to
> date I have found ways around needing branches.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am -0. SVN does not get in my way. Git is cool, OK, and like the
> commit/push split, but I find the Eclipse SVN tooling a little easier to
> deal with than EGit. For example, Subclipse provides an SVN Console but
> EGit does not.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>> switching to Git.
>>
>> +1 for me
>>
>> --
>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>
>
>


-- 
Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
I will vote +0.  With Intellij one is just as seamless as the other and to date I have found ways around needing branches.

Ralph

On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am -0. SVN does not get in my way. Git is cool, OK, and like the commit/push split, but I find the Eclipse SVN tooling a little easier to deal with than EGit. For example, Subclipse provides an SVN Console but EGit does not.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on switching to Git.
> 
> +1 for me
> 
> -- 
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org 
> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
> Spring Batch in Action
> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com 
> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory


Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
I am -0. SVN does not get in my way. Git is cool, OK, and like the
commit/push split, but I find the Eclipse SVN tooling a little easier to
deal with than EGit. For example, Subclipse provides an SVN Console but
EGit does not.

Gary


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
> switching to Git.
>
> +1 for me
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>



-- 
E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
Home: http://garygregory.com/
Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>.
We're considering Git because it makes branching and merging easier. This
is in the context of recent discussions on how to work on bugfix releases
and new features in parallel without too much busywork of syncing multiple
branches.

On Sunday, August 10, 2014, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> -0
>
> Coolness is not actually a good reason to change infrastructures. :-)
> On 9 Aug 2014 15:48, "Gary Gregory" <garydgregory@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','garydgregory@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> The person who called the VOTE should tally it and reply with a
>> [RESULT][VOTE] subject.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','remko.popma@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, what is the verdict? :-)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 2014/08/05, at 23:18, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','boards@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>>> switching to Git.
>>>
>>> +1 for me
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','boards@gmail.com');>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','garydgregory@gmail.com');> | ggregory@apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ggregory@apache.org');>
>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>
>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>.
-0

Coolness is not actually a good reason to change infrastructures. :-)
On 9 Aug 2014 15:48, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The person who called the VOTE should tally it and reply with a
> [RESULT][VOTE] subject.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So, what is the verdict? :-)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2014/08/05, at 23:18, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>> switching to Git.
>>
>> +1 for me
>>
>> --
>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org>.
Matt called the vote. He should tally the result.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 9, 2014, at 6:47 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The person who called the VOTE should tally it and reply with a [RESULT][VOTE] subject.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, what is the verdict? :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2014/08/05, at 23:18, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on switching to Git.
>>> 
>>> +1 for me
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org 
> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
> Spring Batch in Action
> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com 
> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
The person who called the VOTE should tally it and reply with a
[RESULT][VOTE] subject.

Gary


On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, what is the verdict? :-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2014/08/05, at 23:18, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
> switching to Git.
>
> +1 for me
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>
>


-- 
E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
Home: http://garygregory.com/
Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>.
So, what is the verdict? :-)

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2014/08/05, at 23:18, Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on switching to Git.
> 
> +1 for me
> 
> -- 
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
I don’t really care which we use but only one should be the “official” repository.  I believe Ivan switched log4php to git several months ago. Perhaps he can enlighten us on what was required to move to git and what benefits and/or detriments he has experienced since moving.

Ralph

On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If we switch to Git, we should make SVN read-only to avoid any confusion.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +0.5 
> Not familiar enough with this to vote with more confidence. I'd vote +1 if we can use svn and Git in parallel. (Does Apache Git support svn extensions?)
> 
> On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
> 
> On Aug 5, 2014 7:18 AM, "Matt Sicker" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on switching to Git.
> 
> +1 for me
> 
> -- 
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org 
> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
> Spring Batch in Action
> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com 
> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory


Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
FYI, I've seen every other Apache project make their SVN location read-only
after moving to GIT.


Cheers,
Paul


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If we switch to Git, we should make SVN read-only to avoid any confusion.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +0.5
>> Not familiar enough with this to vote with more confidence. I'd vote +1
>> if we can use svn and Git in parallel. (Does Apache Git support svn
>> extensions?)
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>> On Aug 5, 2014 7:18 AM, "Matt Sicker" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>>>> switching to Git.
>>>>
>>>> +1 for me
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
If we switch to Git, we should make SVN read-only to avoid any confusion.

Gary


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +0.5
> Not familiar enough with this to vote with more confidence. I'd vote +1
> if we can use svn and Git in parallel. (Does Apache Git support svn
> extensions?)
>
> On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>> On Aug 5, 2014 7:18 AM, "Matt Sicker" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>>> switching to Git.
>>>
>>> +1 for me
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>


-- 
E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
Home: http://garygregory.com/
Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory

[VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>.
(Resending to add PMC)

+0.5
Not familiar enough with this to vote with more confidence. I'd vote +1 if
we can use svn and Git in parallel. (Does Apache Git support svn
extensions?)

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
> On Aug 5, 2014 7:18 AM, "Matt Sicker" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>> switching to Git.
>>
>> +1 for me
>>
>> --
>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>
>

[VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>.
+0.5
Not familiar enough with this to vote with more confidence. I'd vote +1 if
we can use svn and Git in parallel. (Does Apache Git support svn
extensions?)

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','scott.deboy@gmail.com');>> wrote:

> +1
> On Aug 5, 2014 7:18 AM, "Matt Sicker" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>> switching to Git.
>>
>> +1 for me
>>
>> --
>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>
>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Scott Deboy <sc...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Aug 5, 2014 7:18 AM, "Matt Sicker" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
> switching to Git.
>
> +1 for me
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>.
After reading about this more I'm changing my vote to +1.
This was an interesting read:
http://blogs.atlassian.com/2013/01/svn-to-git-how-atlassian-made-the-switch-without-sacrificing-active-development/

Ivan, can you tell us about your experiences with switching?


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If there is the requirement that people often work offline it makes sense,
> otherwise it's just another versioning tool. Do you work mostly  in a
> train, jet, ..? Once that is answered i'll vote. :-)
>
> I personally like more the distributed ones. If i had to order the tools i
> work with based on how much i like them this would be the result:
>
> 1 Hg
> 2 Git
> 3 Svn
> 4 Cvs
>
> Cheers
> On 5 Aug 2014 19:56, "Bruno Mahé" <bm...@tango.me> wrote:
>
>>  +1 (non-binding)
>>
>> We moved to Git at Apache Bigtop and everyone loved it.
>> Note that most people were using git-svn before.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bruno
>>
>> Le 08/05/2014 07:18 AM, Matt Sicker a écrit :
>>
>> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
>> switching to Git.
>>
>>  +1 for me
>>
>>  --
>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Bruno
>>
>>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>.
If there is the requirement that people often work offline it makes sense,
otherwise it's just another versioning tool. Do you work mostly  in a
train, jet, ..? Once that is answered i'll vote. :-)

I personally like more the distributed ones. If i had to order the tools i
work with based on how much i like them this would be the result:

1 Hg
2 Git
3 Svn
4 Cvs

Cheers
On 5 Aug 2014 19:56, "Bruno Mahé" <bm...@tango.me> wrote:

>  +1 (non-binding)
>
> We moved to Git at Apache Bigtop and everyone loved it.
> Note that most people were using git-svn before.
>
> Thanks,
> Bruno
>
> Le 08/05/2014 07:18 AM, Matt Sicker a écrit :
>
> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
> switching to Git.
>
>  +1 for me
>
>  --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Bruno
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Switch Log4j2 to Git

Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@tango.me>.
+1 (non-binding)

We moved to Git at Apache Bigtop and everyone loved it.
Note that most people were using git-svn before.

Thanks,
Bruno

Le 08/05/2014 07:18 AM, Matt Sicker a écrit :
> This topic was brought up elsewhere, so I'd like to propose a vote on
> switching to Git.
>
> +1 for me
>
> -- 
> Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>

-- 
Thanks,
Bruno