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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> on 2016/06/13 14:11:40 UTC

Unsubscribe trailers

On 13/06/2016 15:03, Mark Thomas wrote:
>> I have been receiving them for years and you have no unsubscribe button in
>> the email.
> 
> There should be a standard footer with the unsubscribe address listed.
> I'll look into that.

If I got the settings right, there should now be a footer below my
signature with instructions on how to unsubscribe.

Mark

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Re: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by Don Cunningham <ot...@gmail.com>.
Unsubscribe now getting way to much juck on my phone and email.
On Jun 13, 2016 2:26 PM, "Mark Thomas" <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 13/06/2016 18:56, Mike Drob wrote:
> > I see that we're setting the List-Unsubscribe header already here, but in
> > GMail I don't see an unsubscribe decorator next to the "from" address.
> > Maybe there is another step to make it happen?
>
> It looks like there is and ASF infra isn't in a position to complete
> that step at this point in time. It should happen in the future.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 13/06/2016 18:56, Mike Drob wrote:
> I see that we're setting the List-Unsubscribe header already here, but in
> GMail I don't see an unsubscribe decorator next to the "from" address.
> Maybe there is another step to make it happen?

It looks like there is and ASF infra isn't in a position to complete
that step at this point in time. It should happen in the future.

Mark

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Re: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>.
I see that we're setting the List-Unsubscribe header already here, but in
GMail I don't see an unsubscribe decorator next to the "from" address.
Maybe there is another step to make it happen?
I'm not an email guy, so I'm not sure how helpful I can be.

Mike

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:35 PM, jleroux@apache.org <jl...@apache.org>
wrote:

> +1 for everywhere!
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 13/06/2016 à 16:28, Pierre Smits a écrit :
>
>> Hi Mark.
>>
>> Easy fix for a returning nuisance.
>>
>> Kudos!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>
>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 13/06/2016 15:20, Richard Eckart de Castilho wrote:
>>>
>>>> That should help many people and avoid these annoying
>>>> "please unsubscribe" messages.
>>>>
>>>> How about turning these footers on for all mailing lists ASF-wide?
>>>> Or did you actually do that? ;)
>>>>
>>> I could do that. But I didn't.
>>>
>>> Generally, infra sets these (or not) based on the request of the
>>> community that owns the list.
>>>
>>> In this case I 'just did it' for this list on the basis that it looked
>>> like the right thing to do and if the community disagrees the potential
>>> harm is minimal and I can undo it just as quickly.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> -- Richard
>>>>
>>>> On 13.06.2016, at 16:11, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/06/2016 15:03, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been receiving them for years and you have no unsubscribe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> button in
>>>
>>>> the email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There should be a standard footer with the unsubscribe address listed.
>>>>>> I'll look into that.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If I got the settings right, there should now be a footer below my
>>>>> signature with instructions on how to unsubscribe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by "jleroux@apache.org" <jl...@apache.org>.
+1 for everywhere!

Jacques


Le 13/06/2016 � 16:28, Pierre Smits a �crit :
> Hi Mark.
>
> Easy fix for a returning nuisance.
>
> Kudos!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 13/06/2016 15:20, Richard Eckart de Castilho wrote:
>>> That should help many people and avoid these annoying
>>> "please unsubscribe" messages.
>>>
>>> How about turning these footers on for all mailing lists ASF-wide?
>>> Or did you actually do that? ;)
>> I could do that. But I didn't.
>>
>> Generally, infra sets these (or not) based on the request of the
>> community that owns the list.
>>
>> In this case I 'just did it' for this list on the basis that it looked
>> like the right thing to do and if the community disagrees the potential
>> harm is minimal and I can undo it just as quickly.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> -- Richard
>>>
>>>> On 13.06.2016, at 16:11, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 13/06/2016 15:03, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>>>> I have been receiving them for years and you have no unsubscribe
>> button in
>>>>>> the email.
>>>>> There should be a standard footer with the unsubscribe address listed.
>>>>> I'll look into that.
>>>> If I got the settings right, there should now be a footer below my
>>>> signature with instructions on how to unsubscribe.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>
>>
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>>
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RE: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Tail-gating on this so I mention it somewhere at least.

One problem that I have noticed, and I don't know how systematic it is, is that when a post uses HTML formatting, the list robot may not provide the trailer in a form that actually has it be visible to a recipient.

This has led, in the past, to users being dissed by other users for not paying attention to footers that, in fact, they don't see.  (It's one of those "works for me" disconnects.)  

One action I can take is to request that list moderators on projects I support provide the level of civility exhibited by Mark Thomas and simply honor unsubscribe requests and confirm it to the list.  I will do that too.

I am acting on the practice now.  What the robot/archiver does is beyond me.

 - Dennis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 07:28
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Unsubscribe trailers
> 
> Hi Mark.
> 
> Easy fix for a returning nuisance.
> 
> Kudos!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
> 
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> 
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 13/06/2016 15:20, Richard Eckart de Castilho wrote:
> > > That should help many people and avoid these annoying
> > > "please unsubscribe" messages.
> > >
> > > How about turning these footers on for all mailing lists ASF-wide?
> > > Or did you actually do that? ;)
> >
> > I could do that. But I didn't.
> >
> > Generally, infra sets these (or not) based on the request of the
> > community that owns the list.
> >
> > In this case I 'just did it' for this list on the basis that it looked
> > like the right thing to do and if the community disagrees the
> potential
> > harm is minimal and I can undo it just as quickly.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > -- Richard
> > >
> > >> On 13.06.2016, at 16:11, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 13/06/2016 15:03, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > >>>> I have been receiving them for years and you have no unsubscribe
> > button in
> > >>>> the email.
> > >>>
> > >>> There should be a standard footer with the unsubscribe address
> listed.
> > >>> I'll look into that.
> > >>
> > >> If I got the settings right, there should now be a footer below my
> > >> signature with instructions on how to unsubscribe.
> > >>
> > >> Mark
> > >>
> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Mark.

Easy fix for a returning nuisance.

Kudos!

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 13/06/2016 15:20, Richard Eckart de Castilho wrote:
> > That should help many people and avoid these annoying
> > "please unsubscribe" messages.
> >
> > How about turning these footers on for all mailing lists ASF-wide?
> > Or did you actually do that? ;)
>
> I could do that. But I didn't.
>
> Generally, infra sets these (or not) based on the request of the
> community that owns the list.
>
> In this case I 'just did it' for this list on the basis that it looked
> like the right thing to do and if the community disagrees the potential
> harm is minimal and I can undo it just as quickly.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -- Richard
> >
> >> On 13.06.2016, at 16:11, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 13/06/2016 15:03, Mark Thomas wrote:
> >>>> I have been receiving them for years and you have no unsubscribe
> button in
> >>>> the email.
> >>>
> >>> There should be a standard footer with the unsubscribe address listed.
> >>> I'll look into that.
> >>
> >> If I got the settings right, there should now be a footer below my
> >> signature with instructions on how to unsubscribe.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >
>
>
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>

Re: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 13/06/2016 15:20, Richard Eckart de Castilho wrote:
> That should help many people and avoid these annoying
> "please unsubscribe" messages.
> 
> How about turning these footers on for all mailing lists ASF-wide?
> Or did you actually do that? ;)

I could do that. But I didn't.

Generally, infra sets these (or not) based on the request of the
community that owns the list.

In this case I 'just did it' for this list on the basis that it looked
like the right thing to do and if the community disagrees the potential
harm is minimal and I can undo it just as quickly.

Mark


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- Richard
> 
>> On 13.06.2016, at 16:11, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 13/06/2016 15:03, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>> I have been receiving them for years and you have no unsubscribe button in
>>>> the email.
>>>
>>> There should be a standard footer with the unsubscribe address listed.
>>> I'll look into that.
>>
>> If I got the settings right, there should now be a footer below my
>> signature with instructions on how to unsubscribe.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> 
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Re: Unsubscribe trailers

Posted by Richard Eckart de Castilho <re...@apache.org>.
That should help many people and avoid these annoying
"please unsubscribe" messages.

How about turning these footers on for all mailing lists ASF-wide?
Or did you actually do that? ;)

Cheers,

-- Richard

> On 13.06.2016, at 16:11, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On 13/06/2016 15:03, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> I have been receiving them for years and you have no unsubscribe button in
>>> the email.
>> 
>> There should be a standard footer with the unsubscribe address listed.
>> I'll look into that.
> 
> If I got the settings right, there should now be a footer below my
> signature with instructions on how to unsubscribe.
> 
> Mark
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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