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Posted to dev@servicemix.apache.org by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> on 2009/09/23 16:44:29 UTC
Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
features distribution to
nmr.sh / nmr.bat
servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
instead of karaf / karaf.bat
Thoughts ?
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Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good. The current plugin helps a bit but there's still much to
do to have a valid assembly.
Any improvement would be welcome.
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 18:46, Chris Custine <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to rename to servicemix[.sh|.bat]
>
> Related to this, I have had the idea to write a karaf plugin for maven which
> would allow you to describe your application (branding, name, etc.) and do
> the assembly and string filtering based on this config. Out of scope for
> now, but I'll start a discussion on felix mailing list soon to discuss if it
> is worthy of the effort.
>
> Chris
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>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
>> features distribution to
>> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
>> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
>> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
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------------------------
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http://fusesource.com
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Chris Custine <ch...@gmail.com>.
+1 to rename to servicemix[.sh|.bat]
Related to this, I have had the idea to write a karaf plugin for maven which
would allow you to describe your application (branding, name, etc.) and do
the assembly and string filtering based on this config. Out of scope for
now, but I'll start a discussion on felix mailing list soon to discuss if it
is worthy of the effort.
Chris
--
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FUSESource :: http://fusesource.com
My Blog :: http://blog.organicelement.com
Apache ServiceMix :: http://servicemix.apache.org
Apache Directory Server :: http://directory.apache.org
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
> features distribution to
> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Aidan Hollinshead <ai...@progress.com>.
Guillaume,
Sorry, I meant the scripts it generated called start.sh|bat and
stop.sh|bat, I was wondering if they could or should be consistent with
the script in the bin directory or if the 'default' launch script should
delegate to a default instance. Those generated scripts did launch the
container in the background so you don't get a shell I think.
Aidan
Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> This one has already been renamed from karaf-admin to admin a few days
> ago afaik. So i don't think it will change again.
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 18:02, Aidan Hollinshead
> <ai...@progress.com> wrote:
>
>> Guillaume,
>>
>> Will we be keeping the admin command that creates scripts called start and
>> stop under an instances/ directory? Should that be consistent too?
>>
>> Aidan
>>
>> Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>>> What you describe might be interesting, but is a really different
>>> issue that may even be implemented in karaf rather than servicemix.
>>> I was really thinking about just renaming the scripts, nothing more for
>>> now.
>>> So you would run bin/servicemix instead of bin/karaf
>>> That was the case previously, but has been changed since the switch to
>>> karaf, so it'd be just about reverting to the previous names.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:24, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Guillaume,
>>>>
>>>> What do you plan to do ? Provide different shell scripts to start the
>>>> server with or without NMR, with or without JBI. I don't like that we
>>>> have too much shell scripts in the bin folder
>>>>
>>>> To stay consistent with what have been done in the past SMX3/beginning
>>>> of SMX4 server, it makes more sense to keep servicemix name (even if
>>>> this script do the same thing as karaf.bat).
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, what I propose, is to have a parameter who will allow
>>>> the user to start the server in the prefered mode :
>>>> servicemix.bat -mode=nmr / camel / jbi / cluster / ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>> Senior Enterprise Architect
>>>> Apache Camel Committer
>>>>
>>>> *****************************
>>>> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
>>>>> features distribution to
>>>>> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
>>>>> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
>>>>> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
This one has already been renamed from karaf-admin to admin a few days
ago afaik. So i don't think it will change again.
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 18:02, Aidan Hollinshead
<ai...@progress.com> wrote:
> Guillaume,
>
> Will we be keeping the admin command that creates scripts called start and
> stop under an instances/ directory? Should that be consistent too?
>
> Aidan
>
> Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>> What you describe might be interesting, but is a really different
>> issue that may even be implemented in karaf rather than servicemix.
>> I was really thinking about just renaming the scripts, nothing more for
>> now.
>> So you would run bin/servicemix instead of bin/karaf
>> That was the case previously, but has been changed since the switch to
>> karaf, so it'd be just about reverting to the previous names.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:24, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Guillaume,
>>>
>>> What do you plan to do ? Provide different shell scripts to start the
>>> server with or without NMR, with or without JBI. I don't like that we
>>> have too much shell scripts in the bin folder
>>>
>>> To stay consistent with what have been done in the past SMX3/beginning
>>> of SMX4 server, it makes more sense to keep servicemix name (even if
>>> this script do the same thing as karaf.bat).
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, what I propose, is to have a parameter who will allow
>>> the user to start the server in the prefered mode :
>>> servicemix.bat -mode=nmr / camel / jbi / cluster / ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Charles Moulliard
>>> Senior Enterprise Architect
>>> Apache Camel Committer
>>>
>>> *****************************
>>> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
>>>> features distribution to
>>>> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
>>>> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
>>>> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Aidan Hollinshead <ai...@progress.com>.
Guillaume,
Will we be keeping the admin command that creates scripts called start
and stop under an instances/ directory? Should that be consistent too?
Aidan
Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> What you describe might be interesting, but is a really different
> issue that may even be implemented in karaf rather than servicemix.
> I was really thinking about just renaming the scripts, nothing more for now.
> So you would run bin/servicemix instead of bin/karaf
> That was the case previously, but has been changed since the switch to
> karaf, so it'd be just about reverting to the previous names.
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:24, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guillaume,
>>
>> What do you plan to do ? Provide different shell scripts to start the
>> server with or without NMR, with or without JBI. I don't like that we
>> have too much shell scripts in the bin folder
>>
>> To stay consistent with what have been done in the past SMX3/beginning
>> of SMX4 server, it makes more sense to keep servicemix name (even if
>> this script do the same thing as karaf.bat).
>>
>> Nevertheless, what I propose, is to have a parameter who will allow
>> the user to start the server in the prefered mode :
>> servicemix.bat -mode=nmr / camel / jbi / cluster / ...
>>
>>
>> Charles Moulliard
>> Senior Enterprise Architect
>> Apache Camel Committer
>>
>> *****************************
>> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
>>> features distribution to
>>> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
>>> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
>>> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> ------------------------
>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA
>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by "Jamie G." <ja...@gmail.com>.
+1 I think a rename would help avoid confusion for most casual users.
J
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So let's go to rename it if everybody agree on that.
>
> Charles Moulliard
> Senior Enterprise Architect
> Apache Camel Committer
>
> *****************************
> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What you describe might be interesting, but is a really different
>> issue that may even be implemented in karaf rather than servicemix.
>> I was really thinking about just renaming the scripts, nothing more for now.
>> So you would run bin/servicemix instead of bin/karaf
>> That was the case previously, but has been changed since the switch to
>> karaf, so it'd be just about reverting to the previous names.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:24, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Guillaume,
>>>
>>> What do you plan to do ? Provide different shell scripts to start the
>>> server with or without NMR, with or without JBI. I don't like that we
>>> have too much shell scripts in the bin folder
>>>
>>> To stay consistent with what have been done in the past SMX3/beginning
>>> of SMX4 server, it makes more sense to keep servicemix name (even if
>>> this script do the same thing as karaf.bat).
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, what I propose, is to have a parameter who will allow
>>> the user to start the server in the prefered mode :
>>> servicemix.bat -mode=nmr / camel / jbi / cluster / ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Charles Moulliard
>>> Senior Enterprise Architect
>>> Apache Camel Committer
>>>
>>> *****************************
>>> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
>>>> features distribution to
>>>> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
>>>> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
>>>> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
So let's go to rename it if everybody agree on that.
Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect
Apache Camel Committer
*****************************
blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What you describe might be interesting, but is a really different
> issue that may even be implemented in karaf rather than servicemix.
> I was really thinking about just renaming the scripts, nothing more for now.
> So you would run bin/servicemix instead of bin/karaf
> That was the case previously, but has been changed since the switch to
> karaf, so it'd be just about reverting to the previous names.
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:24, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Guillaume,
>>
>> What do you plan to do ? Provide different shell scripts to start the
>> server with or without NMR, with or without JBI. I don't like that we
>> have too much shell scripts in the bin folder
>>
>> To stay consistent with what have been done in the past SMX3/beginning
>> of SMX4 server, it makes more sense to keep servicemix name (even if
>> this script do the same thing as karaf.bat).
>>
>> Nevertheless, what I propose, is to have a parameter who will allow
>> the user to start the server in the prefered mode :
>> servicemix.bat -mode=nmr / camel / jbi / cluster / ...
>>
>>
>> Charles Moulliard
>> Senior Enterprise Architect
>> Apache Camel Committer
>>
>> *****************************
>> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
>>> features distribution to
>>> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
>>> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
>>> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> ------------------------
>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA
>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
What you describe might be interesting, but is a really different
issue that may even be implemented in karaf rather than servicemix.
I was really thinking about just renaming the scripts, nothing more for now.
So you would run bin/servicemix instead of bin/karaf
That was the case previously, but has been changed since the switch to
karaf, so it'd be just about reverting to the previous names.
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:24, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guillaume,
>
> What do you plan to do ? Provide different shell scripts to start the
> server with or without NMR, with or without JBI. I don't like that we
> have too much shell scripts in the bin folder
>
> To stay consistent with what have been done in the past SMX3/beginning
> of SMX4 server, it makes more sense to keep servicemix name (even if
> this script do the same thing as karaf.bat).
>
> Nevertheless, what I propose, is to have a parameter who will allow
> the user to start the server in the prefered mode :
> servicemix.bat -mode=nmr / camel / jbi / cluster / ...
>
>
> Charles Moulliard
> Senior Enterprise Architect
> Apache Camel Committer
>
> *****************************
> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
>> features distribution to
>> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
>> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
>> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Guillaume,
What do you plan to do ? Provide different shell scripts to start the
server with or without NMR, with or without JBI. I don't like that we
have too much shell scripts in the bin folder
To stay consistent with what have been done in the past SMX3/beginning
of SMX4 server, it makes more sense to keep servicemix name (even if
this script do the same thing as karaf.bat).
Nevertheless, what I propose, is to have a parameter who will allow
the user to start the server in the prefered mode :
servicemix.bat -mode=nmr / camel / jbi / cluster / ...
Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect
Apache Camel Committer
*****************************
blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
> features distribution to
> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Johan Edstrom <jo...@opennms.org>.
+1 for rename
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
+1 for this renaming.
When people use the servicemix or nmr, they will run the below command
without thinking of what's karaf.
Willem
Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
> features distribution to
> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>
> Thoughts ?
>
Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Lars Heinemann <lh...@apache.org>.
+1 for renaming to servicemix.xxx
2009/9/23 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
> features distribution to
> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
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Re: Name of shells to start nmr / servicemix
Posted by Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com>.
+1 for using servicemix.sh|bat
Freeman
On 2009-9-23, at 下午10:44, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I wonder if we should rename the shell scripts to start the nmr /
> features distribution to
> nmr.sh / nmr.bat
> servicemix.sh / servicemix.bat
> instead of karaf / karaf.bat
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
--
Freeman Fang
------------------------
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