Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache OpenOffice.org Branding...

[Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>]

Hi Terry,

Sorry, you are having difficulty with ooo-marketing.

On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Terry wrote:

> This is what I attempted twice to post to the marketing list.  Someone on that list provided a longish list of OOo urls.
> 
> The openoffice.org domains are a jungle.

Most of these extra domains are ones that had been used by people selling OpenOffice. The AOOo project needs to decide which, if any, need to have registration transferred to the ASF.

> Tested links today.
> 
> http://www.testopenoffice.org  all links here could be placed in a special place on the home page in a section called (for example) 'how you can contribute'.  One of the links is http://projects.testopenoffice.org/native-lang.html

This will likely go away.

> http://openoffice2009.com/  "Firefox can't find the server at www.openoffice2009.com"
> 
> http://openoffice-gratuit.com/  "Firefox can't find the server at www.openoffice-gratuit.com"
> 
> http://openoffice-pt.com/ "Firefox can't find the server at www.openoffice-pt.com"
> 
> I shan't test any more pages.

Back in August I tested all of them. Since most of these domains were taken from individuals who were abusing openoffice.org, it looks like nothing was ever done other than shut them down.

A few have actual websites, but only one is truly unique - openoffice.org.il

We've had bigger issues, but eventually we will do something to properly redirect these domains whether they are kept or not. This will come after the openoffice.org website is migrated to the ASF.

> With regard to languages other than English, links to these pages could be placed on the home page and on the download page.

The new openoffice.org is coming together on Apache Infrastructure. More details next week.

Regards,
Dave

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>> From: floris v <fl...@gmail.com>
>> To: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 9:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache OpenOffice.org Branding...
>> 
>> Op 27-10-2011 23:52, Terry schreef:
>>> I do not understand the point Michael made in that email.  Is he suggesting that no version number be used? 
>>> 
>>> Terry
>>> 
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>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: David H. Lipman<DL...@Verizon.Net>
>>>> To: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 1:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache OpenOffice.org Branding...
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Michael Acevedo"<ve...@yahoo.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been reading the OOo forum and first let me congratulate the Apache OOo team in
>>>>> completing the transition of the source code earlier this month. As for my proposal, it
>>>>> stems from one statement made in the OpenOffice.org Forums indicating that
>>>>> "Fundamentally,
>>>>> as a project "OpenOffice.org" is done." If the following is true I think it creates a
>>>>> great opportunity to refresh the OpenOffice.org brand. My proposal has the following
>>>>> provision: -
>>>>> Drop the "3" or "3.4" suffix from the OpenOffice.org name and either leave the office
>>>>> suite name as "Apache OpenOffice.org" or "Apache OpenOffice.org 4 * The rationale for
>>>>> this
>>>>> provision is the fact that the OOo code will undergo (or has
>>>>> undergone substantial rewriting) to allow the source code to be compliant with the
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> 2.0. licence scheme. * Furthermore, IBM's decision to donate Lotus Symphony to Apache
>>>>> will
>>>>> most likely result in a "code merger" with the Apache OpenOffice project which will
>>>>> result
>>>>> in a very altered (compared to today's) OpenOffice.org source code. Well that's the
>>>>> basic
>>>>> idea behind proposal and I think the brand refresh will be beneficial for the Apache OOo
>>>>> project.
>>>>> Again, thank you for your time and keep up the good work!
>>>>> 
>>>> I agree with all aspects of what Michael suggests and has stated.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dave
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>>>> 
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>> With lots of rewriting and going back to old software like myspell any 
>> version number seems to me a very dubious affair. You might just as well 
>> restart with Apache OOo 1.0. A higher version number suggests, after 
>> all, that the developers built on an older version and added stuff and 
>> removed bugs. Here the story is very different. It's probably my biggest 
>> objection to this rebranding: there are quite a few annoying bugs and 
>> shortcomings that have plagued users for years, and instead of tackling 
>> those, the developers are discarding stuff that works in favour of old 
>> software that may not work quite as well. Really.
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