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style problems after rendering
Hello,
I have a little style problem.
After rendering the svg the font looks pretty ugly while in Adobe
Illustrator it looks
good.
Do I have to include anything in order to make style work?
MAC OS X.2.5, JVM 1.4.1 Batik 1.5
thanks a lot
Georg
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Re: style problems after rendering
Posted by Thomas E Deweese <th...@kodak.com>.
>>>>> "GA" == Georg A <ma...@studserv.uni-leipzig.de> writes:
GA> it is the same on pc with 1.3.1 JDK I suppose there is something
GA> wrong with the export from Illustrator to svg [...]
I just tried viewing your file on Mac OS X JDK 1.3.1. It renders
fine. Going back to your screen shot, I now very strongly suspect
that your code is setting a fairly wide stroke on the text. This is
clearly not in the source SVG document but if you are adjusting
strokes when people zoom in/out - this could easily be the problem.
GA> if I try to load the svg maps I produced from the Illustrator maps
GA> in squiggle it takes ages to load them, about 15 min for a 1MB
GA> file.
This is _much_ slower than what I see. Your sample file (1.4 MB)
loads in ~50sec with squiggle (on my old 500mhz iBook - it's much
faster on my 1Ghz IBM laptop). It is possible that stroking the text
could significantly slow it down. I would suggest trying to figure
out where all that time is being spent.
GA> Could you send me the "fixed" svg file you produced?
Sure, I'll send it to you seperately (as it is a large file).
GA> What editor do you use to manipulate the svg files?
Emacs - it has a fairly decent mode for handling XML. I basically
use Emacs to edit _everything_.
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Re: style problems after rendering
Posted by "Georg A." <at...@eva.mpg.de>.
I tested it with JDK 1.3.1 at Mac OS X and the font was the same ugly
one
so I guess that's not the problem?
Georg
On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 18:10 Europe/Berlin, Thomas E Deweese
wrote:
>>>>>> "GA" == Georg A <at...@eva.mpg.de> writes:
>
> GA> On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 17:33 Europe/Berlin, Thomas E
> GA> Deweese wrote:
>>> What JDK did you get the bad rendering with? (Mac OS X - 1.4.1?).
>
> GA> yes
>
> So it would seem that this is the problem. I don't actually have
> easy access to a system configured this way. One of the other
> committers does though (although he has been busy with other things of
> late). So it may be difficult to track this down.
>
>>> Also are you using an up to date CVS Batik? This could be better
>>> (or worse) than 1.5b5 as I just changed the exact call used to
>>> render text [so we could draw hinted text] (I noticed some issues
>>> on Mac OS X - JDK 1.3 which I still need to deal with).
>
> GA> I don't know exactly what you mean, I am using 1.5b4 as far as I
> GA> know. Would you recommend the 1.1 ?
>
> You can't use 1.1 (no dynamic support). I would strongly suggest
> at least upgrading to 1.5b5 (latest offical release), given that you
> are likely to need a bug fix I would suggest going to CVS as that will
> be the simplest way to pick up fixes. It is possible that either of
> these will fix the problem (or make it worse :).
>
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Re: style problems after rendering
Posted by "Georg A." <ma...@studserv.uni-leipzig.de>.
On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 18:10 Europe/Berlin, Thomas E Deweese
wrote:
> GA> yes
>
> So it would seem that this is the problem. I don't actually have
> easy access to a system configured this way. One of the other
> committers does though (although he has been busy with other things of
> late). So it may be difficult to track this down.
>
>
it is the same on pc with 1.3.1 JDK
I suppose there is something wrong with the export from Illustrator to
svg
if I try to load the svg maps I produced from the Illustrator maps in
squiggle
it takes ages to load them, about 15 min for a 1MB file.
Could you send me the "fixed" svg file you produced?
What editor do you use to manipulate the svg files?
thanks a lot
Georg
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Re: style problems after rendering
Posted by Thomas E Deweese <th...@kodak.com>.
>>>>> "GA" == Georg A <at...@eva.mpg.de> writes:
GA> On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 17:33 Europe/Berlin, Thomas E
GA> Deweese wrote:
>> What JDK did you get the bad rendering with? (Mac OS X - 1.4.1?).
GA> yes
So it would seem that this is the problem. I don't actually have
easy access to a system configured this way. One of the other
committers does though (although he has been busy with other things of
late). So it may be difficult to track this down.
>> Also are you using an up to date CVS Batik? This could be better
>> (or worse) than 1.5b5 as I just changed the exact call used to
>> render text [so we could draw hinted text] (I noticed some issues
>> on Mac OS X - JDK 1.3 which I still need to deal with).
GA> I don't know exactly what you mean, I am using 1.5b4 as far as I
GA> know. Would you recommend the 1.1 ?
You can't use 1.1 (no dynamic support). I would strongly suggest
at least upgrading to 1.5b5 (latest offical release), given that you
are likely to need a bug fix I would suggest going to CVS as that will
be the simplest way to pick up fixes. It is possible that either of
these will fix the problem (or make it worse :).
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Re: style problems after rendering
Posted by "Georg A." <at...@eva.mpg.de>.
On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 17:33 Europe/Berlin, Thomas E Deweese
wrote:
> What JDK did you get the bad rendering with? (Mac OS X - 1.4.1?).
yes
>
> Also you might consider turning off lots of the Illustrator
> 'export' options when you are producing the content for web, this
> should make the file a bit smaller - keeping it on is a good idea
> while editing.
I am still editing :)
>
> Also are you using an up to date CVS Batik? This could be better
> (or worse) than 1.5b5 as I just changed the exact call used to render
> text [so we could draw hinted text] (I noticed some issues on Mac OS X
> - JDK 1.3 which I still need to deal with).
I don't know exactly what you mean, I am using 1.5b4 as far as I know.
Would you recommend the 1.1 ?
Georg
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Re: style problems after rendering
Posted by Thomas E Deweese <th...@kodak.com>.
>>>>> "GA" == Georg A <at...@eva.mpg.de> writes:
>> Can you provide a sample SVG (and possibly PNG) and a more detailed
>> description of what is 'pretty ugly'.
GA> on http://www.ge-org.com/batik/ is the svg file a wals.pdf which
GA> is a screenshot from my application and illustrator.pdf which is
GA> taken from illustrator
GA> if you look at the pictures you will see what I mean with "ugly"
Yes, that is pretty ugly :)
Unfortunately after tweaking your SVG file a little (making cities
visible and closing some missing tags) I get a very reasonable
rendering (the font seems to be different) - on both Windows and
Solaris.
What JDK did you get the bad rendering with? (Mac OS X - 1.4.1?).
Also you might consider turning off lots of the Illustrator
'export' options when you are producing the content for web, this
should make the file a bit smaller - keeping it on is a good idea
while editing.
Also are you using an up to date CVS Batik? This could be better
(or worse) than 1.5b5 as I just changed the exact call used to render
text [so we could draw hinted text] (I noticed some issues on Mac OS X
- JDK 1.3 which I still need to deal with).
GA> cheers
GA> Georg
>> The most common text issue is Anti-Aliasing or text at small point
>> sizes, if you get CVS Batik you can also try setting
>> test-rendering="optimizeLegibility".
>>
>>
GA> thanks a lot
>>
GA> Georg
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Re: style problems after rendering
Posted by "Georg A." <at...@eva.mpg.de>.
> Can you provide a sample SVG (and possibly PNG) and a more
> detailed description of what is 'pretty ugly'.
on
http://www.ge-org.com/batik/
is the svg file
a wals.pdf which is a screenshot from my application and
illustrator.pdf which is taken from illustrator
if you look at the pictures you will see what I mean with "ugly"
cheers
Georg
>
> The most common text issue is Anti-Aliasing or text at small point
> sizes, if you get CVS Batik you can also try setting
> test-rendering="optimizeLegibility".
>
>
> GA> thanks a lot
>
> GA> Georg
>
>
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RE: style problems after rendering
Posted by Thomas E Deweese <th...@kodak.com>.
>>>>> "GA" == Georg A <at...@eva.mpg.de> writes:
GA> Hello, I have a little style problem. After rendering the svg the
GA> font looks pretty ugly while in Adobe Illustrator it looks good.
GA> Do I have to include anything in order to make style work? MAC OS
GA> X.2.5, JVM 1.4.1 Batik 1.5
Can you provide a sample SVG (and possibly PNG) and a more
detailed description of what is 'pretty ugly'.
The most common text issue is Anti-Aliasing or text at small point
sizes, if you get CVS Batik you can also try setting
test-rendering="optimizeLegibility".
GA> thanks a lot
GA> Georg
GA> -- ######################################## georg@apitz.de
GA> www.ge-org.com
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