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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by Christian Kreutz <sc...@gmx.de> on 2004/06/17 14:14:29 UTC
independent pubs
As we progress on using several publications parallel I want to propose the
following improvements:
- Moving breadcumb and menue files to default pub as has happened with tabs
for individually changes
- Moving 404 page not found / language not found file to Default
- Moving the CMS Skin from /introdction.html onward to the Default Pub to
allow individually adaption of the CMS Layout.
Greetings
Christian
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Re: OT: production of "The Big Picture" graphic (Re: independent
pubs)
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
>
>>Actually, it is very easy to use your own menu styling:
>>http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/lenya-menubar.html
>>("creating a customized menu")
>
>
> I am curious: how was "The Big Picture" graphic produced?
Adobe Illustrator + Wacom Graphire 2
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OT: production of "The Big Picture" graphic (Re: independent pubs)
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Actually, it is very easy to use your own menu styling:
> http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/lenya-menubar.html
> ("creating a customized menu")
I am curious: how was "The Big Picture" graphic produced?
Andreas
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Re: independent pubs
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Christian Kreutz wrote:
>
>> As we progress on using several publications parallel I want to
>> propose the
>> following improvements:
>> - Moving breadcumb and menue files to default pub as has happened
>> with tabs
>> for individually changes
>
>
> they are already there. if you want to override the breadcrumb, just add
> a breadcrumb.xsl to lenya/xslt/navigation
>
> do you mean styling of the menus? i would hold off on that until we have
> a better menu structure. also i am hesitant to give up the lenya GUI.
> what use case do you have for that?
Actually, it is very easy to use your own menu styling:
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/lenya-menubar.html
("creating a customized menu")
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AW: AW: independent pubs
Posted by Christian Kreutz <sc...@gmx.de>.
>
> Hm, I like the idea of using the fallback mechanism for the
> 404 page. Maybe something along the navigation framework
> could be used, i.e.
> cocoon://404/{publication-id}/{area}/{document-url}.xml,
> which will be handled by a fallback matcher in one of the
> root sitemaps. If the pub provides an implementation use it,
> otherwise use the global definition.
>
> Christian, can you file an enhancement bug so we don't forget
> about this?
I just did! :-)
>
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Re: AW: independent pubs
Posted by Christian Egli <ch...@wyona.net>.
"Christian Kreutz" <sc...@gmx.de> writes:
> > > - Moving 404 page not found / language not found file to Default
> >
> > you can change the stylesheet that is being used in the
> > handle-errors pipeline.
>
> I know it is a small change in the publication-sitemap.xmap and it
> can be located in a single pub but why not put it there directly, so
> 404 pages can be designed individually.
Hm, I like the idea of using the fallback mechanism for the 404
page. Maybe something along the navigation framework could be used,
i.e. cocoon://404/{publication-id}/{area}/{document-url}.xml, which
will be handled by a fallback matcher in one of the root sitemaps. If
the pub provides an implementation use it, otherwise use the global
definition.
Christian, can you file an enhancement bug so we don't forget
about this?
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Open Source CMS http://www.wyona.org http://www.wyona.com
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Re: AW: AW: independent pubs
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Torsten Schlabach wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>>>>but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
>>>>only tab.xsl is there
>
>
>>>Are you familiar with the fallback concept and the navigation framework?
>
>
>>>http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/navigation.html
>
>
> I have updated the Look & Feel Howto in the Wiki
> (http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaApplicationLookandFeelHowto)
> to contain that information. Please proof-read and add your comments.
Cool! I have changed it a little and added the info about
<xsl:import/>.
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AW: AW: independent pubs
Posted by Torsten Schlabach <ts...@gmx.net>.
Hi,
>> > but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
>> > only tab.xsl is there
>> Are you familiar with the fallback concept and the navigation framework?
>> http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/navigation.html
I have updated the Look & Feel Howto in the Wiki
(http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaApplicationLookandFeelHowto)
to contain that information. Please proof-read and add your comments.
Torsten
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Betreff: Re: AW: independent pubs
Christian Kreutz wrote:
>>>As we progress on using several publications parallel I want to
>>>propose the following improvements:
>>>
>>>- Moving breadcumb and menue files to default pub as has happened
>>>with tabs for individually changes
>>
>>they are already there. if you want to override the
>>breadcrumb, just add
>>a breadcrumb.xsl to lenya/xslt/navigation
>
>
> but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
> only tab.xsl is there
Are you familiar with the fallback concept and the navigation framework?
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/navigation.html
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AW: AW: independent pubs
Posted by Christian Kreutz <sc...@gmx.de>.
> Christian Kreutz wrote:
>
> >>>As we progress on using several publications parallel I want to
> >>>propose the following improvements:
> >>>
> >>>- Moving breadcumb and menue files to default pub as has happened
> >>>with tabs for individually changes
> >>
> >>they are already there. if you want to override the
> >>breadcrumb, just add
> >>a breadcrumb.xsl to lenya/xslt/navigation
> >
> >
> > but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
> > only tab.xsl is there
>
> Are you familiar with the fallback concept and the navigation
> framework?
>
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/navigation.html
Thanks I am familiar with this and developped own menues.
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaSinglePubRT
This is interesting but have to investigate further how it can help
individualize multiple parallel publications.
Thanks for the feedback.
Christian
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Re: AW: independent pubs
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Christian Kreutz wrote:
>>>As we progress on using several publications parallel I want to
>>>propose the following improvements:
>>>
>>>- Moving breadcumb and menue files to default pub as has happened
>>>with tabs for individually changes
>>
>>they are already there. if you want to override the
>>breadcrumb, just add
>>a breadcrumb.xsl to lenya/xslt/navigation
>
>
> but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
> only tab.xsl is there
Are you familiar with the fallback concept and the navigation framework?
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/docs/components/layout/navigation.html
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Re: AW: independent pubs
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
No, the URL is wrong (Wiki <=> Page). This is correct:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaSinglePubRT
Andreas
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From: "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>
To: "Lenya Users List" <le...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: AW: independent pubs
> Christian Kreutz wrote:
>
> > but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
> > only tab.xsl is there
>
> the capability to overwrite it is there :)
>
> > I know it is a small change in the publication-sitemap.xmap and it can
> > be located in a single pub but
> > why not put it there directly, so 404 pages can be designed
> > individually.
>
> can you file bugs on these things?
>
> > http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Page.jsp?page=LenyaSinglePubRT
> >
> > cannot open this page unfortunately.
>
> maybe your IP is banned.
>
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> http://wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
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Re: AW: independent pubs
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Christian Kreutz wrote:
> but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
> only tab.xsl is there
the capability to overwrite it is there :)
> I know it is a small change in the publication-sitemap.xmap and it can
> be located in a single pub but
> why not put it there directly, so 404 pages can be designed
> individually.
can you file bugs on these things?
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Page.jsp?page=LenyaSinglePubRT
>
> cannot open this page unfortunately.
maybe your IP is banned.
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AW: independent pubs
Posted by Christian Kreutz <sc...@gmx.de>.
> > As we progress on using several publications parallel I want to
> > propose the following improvements:
> >
> > - Moving breadcumb and menue files to default pub as has happened
> > with tabs for individually changes
>
> they are already there. if you want to override the
> breadcrumb, just add
> a breadcrumb.xsl to lenya/xslt/navigation
but not in /lenya/lenya/pubs/default/lenya/xslt/navigation
only tab.xsl is there
>
> do you mean styling of the menus? i would hold off on that
> until we have
> a better menu structure. also i am hesitant to give up the lenya GUI.
> what use case do you have for that?
I meant only this file, as nicely as
/lenya/lenya/xslt/navigation/menue,xsl is written it binds every new
publication and
changes are only possible by the page.css in the pub.
I just think in general the pubs should be more independent. Speaking as
a webdesigner main importance have the files page.css, page2xhtml.xsl,
and the navigation files. I know it is not so important and should not
be a priority but I just want to bring it in. I think lenya has a quite
complex directory and file structure and that confuses new users as it
did me in the beginning. Having all the necessary files in the pub makes
it easier to understand it and finally attracts more users! :-)
>
> > - Moving 404 page not found / language not found file to Default
>
> you can change the stylesheet that is being used in the handle-errors
> pipeline.
>
I know it is a small change in the publication-sitemap.xmap and it can
be located in a single pub but
why not put it there directly, so 404 pages can be designed
individually.
> > - Moving the CMS Skin from /introdction.html onward to the
> Default Pub
> > to allow individually adaption of the CMS Layout.
>
> i'd rather not mix the publication layout and the lenya GUI. some of
> that could be addresed by
>
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Page.jsp?page=LenyaSinglePubRT
cannot open this page unfortunately.
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Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
http://wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
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Re: independent pubs
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Christian Kreutz wrote:
> As we progress on using several publications parallel I want to propose the
> following improvements:
>
> - Moving breadcumb and menue files to default pub as has happened with tabs
> for individually changes
they are already there. if you want to override the breadcrumb, just add
a breadcrumb.xsl to lenya/xslt/navigation
do you mean styling of the menus? i would hold off on that until we have
a better menu structure. also i am hesitant to give up the lenya GUI.
what use case do you have for that?
> - Moving 404 page not found / language not found file to Default
you can change the stylesheet that is being used in the handle-errors
pipeline.
> - Moving the CMS Skin from /introdction.html onward to the Default Pub to
> allow individually adaption of the CMS Layout.
i'd rather not mix the publication layout and the lenya GUI. some of
that could be addresed by
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Page.jsp?page=LenyaSinglePubRT
though
--
Gregor J. Rothfuss
Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
http://wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com gregor@apache.org
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