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Posted to dev@royale.apache.org by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> on 2018/03/27 08:12:18 UTC
Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Hi,
I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to do so.
They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
* an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
* and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process to get
the OS license?
I think it's ok but as Apache is sometimes very bureaucratic I prefer to
ask first.
With this done, others in this project that needs to adhere to the OS
license would enter more easily.
Thanks
[1]browserstack-logo-600x315.png
<https://bstacksupport.zendesk.com/attachments/token/p3PH3Y7BQJO1pLLtNXGC5JmD0/?name=browserstack-logo-600x315.png>
--
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http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Dave,
2018-03-28 20:14 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> Hi -
>
> I note that on the Browserstack Open Source page [1] there are a list of
> logos. We are not agreeing to allow any Apache or Royale logo to appear
> anywhere in their site. If they wish to do so then we will need to point
> them to the appropriate Foundation committee - likely starting with
> trademarks, but it would depend. I’m only bringing this up to remind the
> team of the limits.
>
>
They not ask us to put our logo in their site. In jus the inverse, they
want us to put a Browserstack logo in our page and reference it.
Thanks
> Thanks Justin for the pointer to the rules. At the Foundation level you
> are correct that the rule is nofollow for lower levels of sponsorship.
>
> I concur with Harbs on next steps.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> [1] https://www.browserstack.com/open-source
>
> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 1:40 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> >
> > Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> >
> > I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and link
> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or similar with
> a link to the full page.)
> >
> > Harbs
> >
> >> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to do
> so.
> >>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> >>>
> >>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> >>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> >>>
> >>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process to
> get
> >>> the OS license?
> >>
> >> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it
> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note the
> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Justin
> >>
> >> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
> >
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
I note that on the Browserstack Open Source page [1] there are a list of logos. We are not agreeing to allow any Apache or Royale logo to appear anywhere in their site. If they wish to do so then we will need to point them to the appropriate Foundation committee - likely starting with trademarks, but it would depend. I’m only bringing this up to remind the team of the limits.
Thanks Justin for the pointer to the rules. At the Foundation level you are correct that the rule is nofollow for lower levels of sponsorship.
I concur with Harbs on next steps.
Regards,
Dave
[1] https://www.browserstack.com/open-source
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 1:40 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
>
> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only requirement is to have a consistent policy.
>
> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and link to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or similar with a link to the full page.)
>
> Harbs
>
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to do so.
>>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
>>>
>>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
>>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
>>>
>>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process to get
>>> the OS license?
>>
>> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note the rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>>
>> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
>
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
If others agree, I’m fine with it.
Harbs
> On Mar 29, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Harbs,
>
> my opinion is that is a bit a false modesty to not even list that Adobe,
> Codeoscopic and PrintUI along IntelliJ and BrowserStack are donating both
> Human Resources, services and infrastructure.
> That doesn't hurt the project, just the opposite, since there are
> individuals and companies that are betting for this project, while doesn't
> compromise the main motive of its open source nature.
>
> The fact is that if Adobe don't pay Alex and Peter, we didn't have Royale
> today, the same for Harbs and for me. In my case, if Codeoscopic don't pay
> me I could not invest in make Jewel and Themes, so we'd not have such
> feature at least for my part. So, as I said, I see only benefits in
> recognize what they are donating.
>
> my 2 cnts
>
>
>
> 2018-03-29 10:12 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>
>> I’m a bit on the fence on putting thanks to companies paying employees to
>> work on Royale. I’m much more comfortable with thanks for actual tools. It
>> feels a bit “weird” to me, but I could probably go either way. In a certain
>> sense, it might look better for the project to have more “thanks” listed
>> there.
>>
>> FWIW, my own company — PrintUI (which I’m an owner of) is paying both me
>> and Yishay to work on Royale.
>>
>> Harbs
>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Om,
>>>
>>> 2018-03-28 19:45 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
>> <mailto:bigosmallm@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>>:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't call them sponsors. There is an ASF level Sponsorship page
>> [1]
>>>> and this might conflict with that.
>>>>
>>>> I think a `Thanks to` page is fine.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you prefer that name is ok for me I'll change to it. I propose
>>> "Sponsors" since sounds more appropriate to me, but "Thanks To" is ok
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, Adobe is seen twice :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I said in my email that logos was not set yet. I didn't want to work on
>>> that if there was some problem with this page. I only created a "draft"
>> to
>>> show the intention. As well texts only said why companies listed are
>> there,
>>> but not final text for the same reason
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And just as a disclaimer, you are the owner of Codescopic, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Right, but what do you want to say with that? ownership of a company is
>> one
>>> thing, I'm as well employee of my own company that is paying me to invest
>>> time in this project, in the same way Adobe pay Peter and Alex. As well I
>>> can choose to put some infrastructure resources of Codeoscopic to help
>> this
>>> project.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Om
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Carlos,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about 48
>>>>> hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Piotr
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I
>>>> can
>>>>>> go with it and complete?
>>>>>> I'll wait a few hours
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I created a draft page on website for this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the
>>>> PMC
>>>>>>> want to thank you as described here [1]
>>>>>>> * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
>>>>>>> * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
>>>>>>> companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think
>>>> about
>>>>> 4
>>>>>>> for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
>>>>>>> * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other
>>>> company
>>>>>>> /people missed ??
>>>>>>> * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know
>>>> if
>>>>>>> you agree
>>>>>>> * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
>>>>>> saying
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
>>>>>>>> thanks both
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
>>>>>>>>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and
>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
>>>>> similar
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> a link to the full page.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
>>>>>> justin@classsoftware.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do so.
>>>>>>>>>>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>>>>>> the OS license?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site.
>>>> Note
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>
>>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carlos Rovira
>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira> <http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira>
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
btw, this is the latest draft:
https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
(again, logos and text are not final, and put what I found to quickly
layout things, only the adobe logo is matching, but I'll use other we get
the final consensus)
thanks
2018-03-29 11:46 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi Piotr,
>
> I was updating the page to thanks to, adding PrintUI, then read your mail.
> So go to add Prominic, NextGen (I assume you named Patreon but is not part
> of what you want to add).
>
> Then I realized that both Prominic and NextGen are making great things for
> this project and community, but when I want to put the "draft line" about
> what we want to say to thank them I have a problem, since they are not
> donating a service, a OS license, a time/person to this project...
>
> So Moonshine or NextGen are very related to Royale but not part of royale.
> Are OS projects in their own and in part related to us.
>
> I think, and saw this some weeks ago (but still couldn't do it), to add a
> page or section of IDEs with logos that supports Royale (IntelliJ,
> VSCode+NextGenAS, Moonshine,..), the same way you did in
> transpiledactionscript.org. I must do it soon for the website since is
> important to Royale list those IDEs and community have that info clearly
> posted in a relevant part of our website.
> But regarding "Thank you" page, from them the only one that is donating,
> IMHO, is IntelliJ with its OS license, (although even IntelliJ doesn't
> support royale officials and Moonshine and NexGenAS are doing).
>
> For me seems to me more clear to put IDEs in their own page/section than
> in a thank you page that as I interpret from the Apache guidelines "is a
> way for PMCs to thank companies for services or things that they are doing
> for us".
>
> Regarding what Justin says I think Apache is about individuals, but I'm
> confident that this page is to thanks companies and/or individuals that
> PMCs want to thank for services or other things they do for us. The first
> line states:
>
> "PMCs may wish to provide recognition for third parties that provide
> software or services to the project's committers to further the goals of
> the project"
>
> So "third parties that provide software or services" are companies in most
> of the cases.
>
> In the other hand to thank individuals, we already have the team page,
> where we list PMCs and committers that are working and/or helping the
> project in one way or another.
> Here we can find all of us, plus people that was more involved in the past
> (like Josh, Frederic or Erik), but are not currently involved or not
> conjuncturaly
>
>
>
>
> 2018-03-29 10:49 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> Where are you suggesting to write ? What mailing list ? I think that would
>> be an approach, because we have to make sure that it is not violation of
>> some core rules of Apache.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Piotr
>>
>> 2018-03-29 10:46 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > If you look at the guidelines it suggests that you only give thanks to
>> > people who provide tools / infrastructure. IMO if you want to start
>> listing
>> > contributors companies then you would need to list the all of them and I
>> > would also suggest you run this past fundraising. I’m not 100% sure but
>> > mentioning companies in that context may not be in line with Apache's
>> 501c
>> > status. The ASF is about individuals not companies.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Justin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>
>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Harbs,
2018-03-29 18:57 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> I’ve been thinking about this. I went looking around at what projects do.
> Not many projects even seem to have a thanks page, but the ones that do
> seem to be for tools.
>
> While this seemed weird to me at first, the idea of mentioning more of the
> ecosystem is growing on me. We definitely want as many companies as
> possible to be willing to pay folks to work on Royale and having mention
> and a link on the Royale page can help a company justify the expense.
>
I think "thanks to" should be seen as a way of only give thanks to
people/companies that do something for us. Don't think that would make any
difference and if a company does not believe in Royale they would not
invest money in nothing related. So for me is only a page that says
"thanks", since as the apache policy says, no company will b there to
promote any service or product and get nothing in exchange, and I think
they don't pursue that at all.
>
> I have noticed that many projects has a “powered by” page which lists
> companies using the project. It seems reasonable to me to also mention
> other pieces which are “enablers” for the project. In our case this would
> be companies like Bowlerhat and Prominic with their VS Code extension (and
> other tools) and Moonshine. We would need some way to decide who we
> mention. Maybe free tools? Or maybe even commercial tools as well.
>
So you propose to have another page called "Powered By" maybe in the same
Royale menu (in footer)? right?
For me is ok. There we should have Bowlerhat (for NextGenAs) and Prominic
(for Moonshine). Don't recall other one, maybe others...
>
> It might be a good idea to start a discussion on this topic, although I’m
> really not sure what the right list would be for that. Maybe com-dev?
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@community.apache.org <
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@community.apache.org>
>
>
I think this list is ok
Thanks
> My $0.02,
> Harbs
>
> > On Mar 29, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Piotr,
> >
> > I was updating the page to thanks to, adding PrintUI, then read your
> mail.
> > So go to add Prominic, NextGen (I assume you named Patreon but is not
> part
> > of what you want to add).
> >
> > Then I realized that both Prominic and NextGen are making great things
> for
> > this project and community, but when I want to put the "draft line" about
> > what we want to say to thank them I have a problem, since they are not
> > donating a service, a OS license, a time/person to this project...
> >
> > So Moonshine or NextGen are very related to Royale but not part of
> royale.
> > Are OS projects in their own and in part related to us.
> >
> > I think, and saw this some weeks ago (but still couldn't do it), to add a
> > page or section of IDEs with logos that supports Royale (IntelliJ,
> > VSCode+NextGenAS, Moonshine,..), the same way you did in
> > transpiledactionscript.org. I must do it soon for the website since is
> > important to Royale list those IDEs and community have that info clearly
> > posted in a relevant part of our website.
> > But regarding "Thank you" page, from them the only one that is donating,
> > IMHO, is IntelliJ with its OS license, (although even IntelliJ doesn't
> > support royale officials and Moonshine and NexGenAS are doing).
> >
> > For me seems to me more clear to put IDEs in their own page/section than
> in
> > a thank you page that as I interpret from the Apache guidelines "is a way
> > for PMCs to thank companies for services or things that they are doing
> for
> > us".
> >
> > Regarding what Justin says I think Apache is about individuals, but I'm
> > confident that this page is to thanks companies and/or individuals that
> > PMCs want to thank for services or other things they do for us. The first
> > line states:
> >
> > "PMCs may wish to provide recognition for third parties that provide
> > software or services to the project's committers to further the goals of
> > the project"
> >
> > So "third parties that provide software or services" are companies in
> most
> > of the cases.
> >
> > In the other hand to thank individuals, we already have the team page,
> > where we list PMCs and committers that are working and/or helping the
> > project in one way or another.
> > Here we can find all of us, plus people that was more involved in the
> past
> > (like Josh, Frederic or Erik), but are not currently involved or not
> > conjuncturaly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-29 10:49 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Hi Justin,
> >>
> >> Where are you suggesting to write ? What mailing list ? I think that
> would
> >> be an approach, because we have to make sure that it is not violation of
> >> some core rules of Apache.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Piotr
> >>
> >> 2018-03-29 10:46 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> If you look at the guidelines it suggests that you only give thanks to
> >>> people who provide tools / infrastructure. IMO if you want to start
> >> listing
> >>> contributors companies then you would need to list the all of them and
> I
> >>> would also suggest you run this past fundraising. I’m not 100% sure but
> >>> mentioning companies in that context may not be in line with Apache's
> >> 501c
> >>> status. The ASF is about individuals not companies.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Justin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>
> >> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
I’ve been thinking about this. I went looking around at what projects do. Not many projects even seem to have a thanks page, but the ones that do seem to be for tools.
While this seemed weird to me at first, the idea of mentioning more of the ecosystem is growing on me. We definitely want as many companies as possible to be willing to pay folks to work on Royale and having mention and a link on the Royale page can help a company justify the expense.
I have noticed that many projects has a “powered by” page which lists companies using the project. It seems reasonable to me to also mention other pieces which are “enablers” for the project. In our case this would be companies like Bowlerhat and Prominic with their VS Code extension (and other tools) and Moonshine. We would need some way to decide who we mention. Maybe free tools? Or maybe even commercial tools as well.
It might be a good idea to start a discussion on this topic, although I’m really not sure what the right list would be for that. Maybe com-dev? https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@community.apache.org <ht...@community.apache.org>
My $0.02,
Harbs
> On Mar 29, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Piotr,
>
> I was updating the page to thanks to, adding PrintUI, then read your mail.
> So go to add Prominic, NextGen (I assume you named Patreon but is not part
> of what you want to add).
>
> Then I realized that both Prominic and NextGen are making great things for
> this project and community, but when I want to put the "draft line" about
> what we want to say to thank them I have a problem, since they are not
> donating a service, a OS license, a time/person to this project...
>
> So Moonshine or NextGen are very related to Royale but not part of royale.
> Are OS projects in their own and in part related to us.
>
> I think, and saw this some weeks ago (but still couldn't do it), to add a
> page or section of IDEs with logos that supports Royale (IntelliJ,
> VSCode+NextGenAS, Moonshine,..), the same way you did in
> transpiledactionscript.org. I must do it soon for the website since is
> important to Royale list those IDEs and community have that info clearly
> posted in a relevant part of our website.
> But regarding "Thank you" page, from them the only one that is donating,
> IMHO, is IntelliJ with its OS license, (although even IntelliJ doesn't
> support royale officials and Moonshine and NexGenAS are doing).
>
> For me seems to me more clear to put IDEs in their own page/section than in
> a thank you page that as I interpret from the Apache guidelines "is a way
> for PMCs to thank companies for services or things that they are doing for
> us".
>
> Regarding what Justin says I think Apache is about individuals, but I'm
> confident that this page is to thanks companies and/or individuals that
> PMCs want to thank for services or other things they do for us. The first
> line states:
>
> "PMCs may wish to provide recognition for third parties that provide
> software or services to the project's committers to further the goals of
> the project"
>
> So "third parties that provide software or services" are companies in most
> of the cases.
>
> In the other hand to thank individuals, we already have the team page,
> where we list PMCs and committers that are working and/or helping the
> project in one way or another.
> Here we can find all of us, plus people that was more involved in the past
> (like Josh, Frederic or Erik), but are not currently involved or not
> conjuncturaly
>
>
>
>
> 2018-03-29 10:49 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> Where are you suggesting to write ? What mailing list ? I think that would
>> be an approach, because we have to make sure that it is not violation of
>> some core rules of Apache.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Piotr
>>
>> 2018-03-29 10:46 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you look at the guidelines it suggests that you only give thanks to
>>> people who provide tools / infrastructure. IMO if you want to start
>> listing
>>> contributors companies then you would need to list the all of them and I
>>> would also suggest you run this past fundraising. I’m not 100% sure but
>>> mentioning companies in that context may not be in line with Apache's
>> 501c
>>> status. The ASF is about individuals not companies.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>
>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Piotr,
I was updating the page to thanks to, adding PrintUI, then read your mail.
So go to add Prominic, NextGen (I assume you named Patreon but is not part
of what you want to add).
Then I realized that both Prominic and NextGen are making great things for
this project and community, but when I want to put the "draft line" about
what we want to say to thank them I have a problem, since they are not
donating a service, a OS license, a time/person to this project...
So Moonshine or NextGen are very related to Royale but not part of royale.
Are OS projects in their own and in part related to us.
I think, and saw this some weeks ago (but still couldn't do it), to add a
page or section of IDEs with logos that supports Royale (IntelliJ,
VSCode+NextGenAS, Moonshine,..), the same way you did in
transpiledactionscript.org. I must do it soon for the website since is
important to Royale list those IDEs and community have that info clearly
posted in a relevant part of our website.
But regarding "Thank you" page, from them the only one that is donating,
IMHO, is IntelliJ with its OS license, (although even IntelliJ doesn't
support royale officials and Moonshine and NexGenAS are doing).
For me seems to me more clear to put IDEs in their own page/section than in
a thank you page that as I interpret from the Apache guidelines "is a way
for PMCs to thank companies for services or things that they are doing for
us".
Regarding what Justin says I think Apache is about individuals, but I'm
confident that this page is to thanks companies and/or individuals that
PMCs want to thank for services or other things they do for us. The first
line states:
"PMCs may wish to provide recognition for third parties that provide
software or services to the project's committers to further the goals of
the project"
So "third parties that provide software or services" are companies in most
of the cases.
In the other hand to thank individuals, we already have the team page,
where we list PMCs and committers that are working and/or helping the
project in one way or another.
Here we can find all of us, plus people that was more involved in the past
(like Josh, Frederic or Erik), but are not currently involved or not
conjuncturaly
2018-03-29 10:49 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Justin,
>
> Where are you suggesting to write ? What mailing list ? I think that would
> be an approach, because we have to make sure that it is not violation of
> some core rules of Apache.
>
> Thanks,
> Piotr
>
> 2018-03-29 10:46 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > If you look at the guidelines it suggests that you only give thanks to
> > people who provide tools / infrastructure. IMO if you want to start
> listing
> > contributors companies then you would need to list the all of them and I
> > would also suggest you run this past fundraising. I’m not 100% sure but
> > mentioning companies in that context may not be in line with Apache's
> 501c
> > status. The ASF is about individuals not companies.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Justin,
Where are you suggesting to write ? What mailing list ? I think that would
be an approach, because we have to make sure that it is not violation of
some core rules of Apache.
Thanks,
Piotr
2018-03-29 10:46 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
> Hi,
>
> If you look at the guidelines it suggests that you only give thanks to
> people who provide tools / infrastructure. IMO if you want to start listing
> contributors companies then you would need to list the all of them and I
> would also suggest you run this past fundraising. I’m not 100% sure but
> mentioning companies in that context may not be in line with Apache's 501c
> status. The ASF is about individuals not companies.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
If you look at the guidelines it suggests that you only give thanks to people who provide tools / infrastructure. IMO if you want to start listing contributors companies then you would need to list the all of them and I would also suggest you run this past fundraising. I’m not 100% sure but mentioning companies in that context may not be in line with Apache's 501c status. The ASF is about individuals not companies.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
I'm in favor to name that page Thanks to. Totally agree with Carlos. With
me currently would be the same, one year ago or more I could work on stuff
without any help from the companies, but right now it's the opposite.
Without people who helping me at least very little on Patreon or
Prominic.NET who also is a big supporter of that project and finally Josh's
nextgenactionscript.com - I would just disappear from the mailing list
totally. They also deserve to be on that page.
Thanks,
Piotr
2018-03-29 10:22 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi Harbs,
>
> my opinion is that is a bit a false modesty to not even list that Adobe,
> Codeoscopic and PrintUI along IntelliJ and BrowserStack are donating both
> Human Resources, services and infrastructure.
> That doesn't hurt the project, just the opposite, since there are
> individuals and companies that are betting for this project, while doesn't
> compromise the main motive of its open source nature.
>
> The fact is that if Adobe don't pay Alex and Peter, we didn't have Royale
> today, the same for Harbs and for me. In my case, if Codeoscopic don't pay
> me I could not invest in make Jewel and Themes, so we'd not have such
> feature at least for my part. So, as I said, I see only benefits in
> recognize what they are donating.
>
> my 2 cnts
>
>
>
> 2018-03-29 10:12 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I’m a bit on the fence on putting thanks to companies paying employees to
> > work on Royale. I’m much more comfortable with thanks for actual tools.
> It
> > feels a bit “weird” to me, but I could probably go either way. In a
> certain
> > sense, it might look better for the project to have more “thanks” listed
> > there.
> >
> > FWIW, my own company — PrintUI (which I’m an owner of) is paying both me
> > and Yishay to work on Royale.
> >
> > Harbs
> >
> > > On Mar 29, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Om,
> > >
> > > 2018-03-28 19:45 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>>:
> > >
> > >> I wouldn't call them sponsors. There is an ASF level Sponsorship page
> > [1]
> > >> and this might conflict with that.
> > >>
> > >> I think a `Thanks to` page is fine.
> > >>
> > >
> > > If you prefer that name is ok for me I'll change to it. I propose
> > > "Sponsors" since sounds more appropriate to me, but "Thanks To" is ok
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Also, Adobe is seen twice :-)
> > >>
> > >
> > > I said in my email that logos was not set yet. I didn't want to work on
> > > that if there was some problem with this page. I only created a "draft"
> > to
> > > show the intention. As well texts only said why companies listed are
> > there,
> > > but not final text for the same reason
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> And just as a disclaimer, you are the owner of Codescopic, right?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Right, but what do you want to say with that? ownership of a company is
> > one
> > > thing, I'm as well employee of my own company that is paying me to
> invest
> > > time in this project, in the same way Adobe pay Peter and Alex. As
> well I
> > > can choose to put some infrastructure resources of Codeoscopic to help
> > this
> > > project.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Om
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Carlos,
> > >>>
> > >>> I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about
> 48
> > >>> hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Piotr
> > >>>
> > >>> 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume
> I
> > >> can
> > >>>> go with it and complete?
> > >>>> I'll wait a few hours
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Carlos
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I created a draft page on website for this:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the
> > >> PMC
> > >>>>> want to thank you as described here [1]
> > >>>>> * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> > >>>>> * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what
> more
> > >>>>> companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think
> > >> about
> > >>> 4
> > >>>>> for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> > >>>>> * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other
> > >> company
> > >>>>> /people missed ??
> > >>>>> * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to
> know
> > >> if
> > >>>>> you agree
> > >>>>> * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
> > >>>> saying
> > >>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> > >>>>>> thanks both
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> > >>>>>>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website
> and
> > >>> link
> > >>>>>>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
> > >>> similar
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>>>> a link to the full page.)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Harbs
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
> > >>>> justin@classsoftware.com>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's
> ok
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>>> do so.
> > >>>>>>>>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> > >>>>>>>>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
> > >>> process
> > >>>>>>> to get
> > >>>>>>>>> the OS license?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme
> but
> > >>> it
> > >>>>>>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site.
> > >> Note
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>> Justin
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#
> projectthanks
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>
> > >>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > >>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Harbs,
my opinion is that is a bit a false modesty to not even list that Adobe,
Codeoscopic and PrintUI along IntelliJ and BrowserStack are donating both
Human Resources, services and infrastructure.
That doesn't hurt the project, just the opposite, since there are
individuals and companies that are betting for this project, while doesn't
compromise the main motive of its open source nature.
The fact is that if Adobe don't pay Alex and Peter, we didn't have Royale
today, the same for Harbs and for me. In my case, if Codeoscopic don't pay
me I could not invest in make Jewel and Themes, so we'd not have such
feature at least for my part. So, as I said, I see only benefits in
recognize what they are donating.
my 2 cnts
2018-03-29 10:12 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> I’m a bit on the fence on putting thanks to companies paying employees to
> work on Royale. I’m much more comfortable with thanks for actual tools. It
> feels a bit “weird” to me, but I could probably go either way. In a certain
> sense, it might look better for the project to have more “thanks” listed
> there.
>
> FWIW, my own company — PrintUI (which I’m an owner of) is paying both me
> and Yishay to work on Royale.
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Mar 29, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Om,
> >
> > 2018-03-28 19:45 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>:
> >
> >> I wouldn't call them sponsors. There is an ASF level Sponsorship page
> [1]
> >> and this might conflict with that.
> >>
> >> I think a `Thanks to` page is fine.
> >>
> >
> > If you prefer that name is ok for me I'll change to it. I propose
> > "Sponsors" since sounds more appropriate to me, but "Thanks To" is ok
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Also, Adobe is seen twice :-)
> >>
> >
> > I said in my email that logos was not set yet. I didn't want to work on
> > that if there was some problem with this page. I only created a "draft"
> to
> > show the intention. As well texts only said why companies listed are
> there,
> > but not final text for the same reason
> >
> >
> >>
> >> And just as a disclaimer, you are the owner of Codescopic, right?
> >>
> >>
> > Right, but what do you want to say with that? ownership of a company is
> one
> > thing, I'm as well employee of my own company that is paying me to invest
> > time in this project, in the same way Adobe pay Peter and Alex. As well I
> > can choose to put some infrastructure resources of Codeoscopic to help
> this
> > project.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Om
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Carlos,
> >>>
> >>> I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about 48
> >>> hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Piotr
> >>>
> >>> 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I
> >> can
> >>>> go with it and complete?
> >>>> I'll wait a few hours
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Carlos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I created a draft page on website for this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the
> >> PMC
> >>>>> want to thank you as described here [1]
> >>>>> * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> >>>>> * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
> >>>>> companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think
> >> about
> >>> 4
> >>>>> for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> >>>>> * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other
> >> company
> >>>>> /people missed ??
> >>>>> * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know
> >> if
> >>>>> you agree
> >>>>> * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
> >>>> saying
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> >>>>>> thanks both
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> >>>>>>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and
> >>> link
> >>>>>>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
> >>> similar
> >>>> with
> >>>>>>> a link to the full page.)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Harbs
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
> >>>> justin@classsoftware.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> do so.
> >>>>>>>>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> >>>>>>>>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
> >>> process
> >>>>>>> to get
> >>>>>>>>> the OS license?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but
> >>> it
> >>>>>>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site.
> >> Note
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Justin
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>
> >>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
I’m a bit on the fence on putting thanks to companies paying employees to work on Royale. I’m much more comfortable with thanks for actual tools. It feels a bit “weird” to me, but I could probably go either way. In a certain sense, it might look better for the project to have more “thanks” listed there.
FWIW, my own company — PrintUI (which I’m an owner of) is paying both me and Yishay to work on Royale.
Harbs
> On Mar 29, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Om,
>
> 2018-03-28 19:45 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>
>> I wouldn't call them sponsors. There is an ASF level Sponsorship page [1]
>> and this might conflict with that.
>>
>> I think a `Thanks to` page is fine.
>>
>
> If you prefer that name is ok for me I'll change to it. I propose
> "Sponsors" since sounds more appropriate to me, but "Thanks To" is ok
>
>
>>
>> Also, Adobe is seen twice :-)
>>
>
> I said in my email that logos was not set yet. I didn't want to work on
> that if there was some problem with this page. I only created a "draft" to
> show the intention. As well texts only said why companies listed are there,
> but not final text for the same reason
>
>
>>
>> And just as a disclaimer, you are the owner of Codescopic, right?
>>
>>
> Right, but what do you want to say with that? ownership of a company is one
> thing, I'm as well employee of my own company that is paying me to invest
> time in this project, in the same way Adobe pay Peter and Alex. As well I
> can choose to put some infrastructure resources of Codeoscopic to help this
> project.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>>
>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Carlos,
>>>
>>> I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about 48
>>> hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Piotr
>>>
>>> 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I
>> can
>>>> go with it and complete?
>>>> I'll wait a few hours
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Carlos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a draft page on website for this:
>>>>>
>>>>> * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the
>> PMC
>>>>> want to thank you as described here [1]
>>>>> * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
>>>>> * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
>>>>> companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think
>> about
>>> 4
>>>>> for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
>>>>> * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other
>> company
>>>>> /people missed ??
>>>>> * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know
>> if
>>>>> you agree
>>>>> * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
>>>> saying
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
>>>>>> thanks both
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
>>>>>>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and
>>> link
>>>>>>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
>>> similar
>>>> with
>>>>>>> a link to the full page.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
>>>> justin@classsoftware.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok
>>> to
>>>>>>> do so.
>>>>>>>>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
>>>>>>>>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
>>> process
>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>>>> the OS license?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but
>>> it
>>>>>>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site.
>> Note
>>>> the
>>>>>>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>
>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira>
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Om,
2018-03-28 19:45 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> I wouldn't call them sponsors. There is an ASF level Sponsorship page [1]
> and this might conflict with that.
>
> I think a `Thanks to` page is fine.
>
If you prefer that name is ok for me I'll change to it. I propose
"Sponsors" since sounds more appropriate to me, but "Thanks To" is ok
>
> Also, Adobe is seen twice :-)
>
I said in my email that logos was not set yet. I didn't want to work on
that if there was some problem with this page. I only created a "draft" to
show the intention. As well texts only said why companies listed are there,
but not final text for the same reason
>
> And just as a disclaimer, you are the owner of Codescopic, right?
>
>
Right, but what do you want to say with that? ownership of a company is one
thing, I'm as well employee of my own company that is paying me to invest
time in this project, in the same way Adobe pay Peter and Alex. As well I
can choose to put some infrastructure resources of Codeoscopic to help this
project.
Thanks
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Carlos,
> >
> > I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about 48
> > hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Piotr
> >
> > 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I
> can
> > > go with it and complete?
> > > I'll wait a few hours
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I created a draft page on website for this:
> > > >
> > > > * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the
> PMC
> > > > want to thank you as described here [1]
> > > > * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> > > > * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
> > > > companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think
> about
> > 4
> > > > for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> > > > * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other
> company
> > > > /people missed ??
> > > > * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know
> if
> > > > you agree
> > > > * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
> > > saying
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
> > > >
> > > > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > >> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> > > >> thanks both
> > > >>
> > > >> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> > > >>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and
> > link
> > > >>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
> > similar
> > > with
> > > >>> a link to the full page.)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Harbs
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
> > > justin@classsoftware.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Hi,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok
> > to
> > > >>> do so.
> > > >>> >> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> > > >>> >> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
> > process
> > > >>> to get
> > > >>> >> the OS license?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but
> > it
> > > >>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site.
> Note
> > > the
> > > >>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Thanks,
> > > >>> > Justin
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
I wouldn't call them sponsors. There is an ASF level Sponsorship page [1]
and this might conflict with that.
I think a `Thanks to` page is fine.
Also, Adobe is seen twice :-)
And just as a disclaimer, you are the owner of Codescopic, right?
Thanks,
Om
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about 48
> hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
>
> Thanks,
> Piotr
>
> 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I can
> > go with it and complete?
> > I'll wait a few hours
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I created a draft page on website for this:
> > >
> > > * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the PMC
> > > want to thank you as described here [1]
> > > * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> > > * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
> > > companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think about
> 4
> > > for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> > > * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other company
> > > /people missed ??
> > > * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know if
> > > you agree
> > > * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
> > saying
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
> > >
> > > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > >> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> > >> thanks both
> > >>
> > >> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> > >>>
> > >>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> > >>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and
> link
> > >>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
> similar
> > with
> > >>> a link to the full page.)
> > >>>
> > >>> Harbs
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
> > justin@classsoftware.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi,
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok
> to
> > >>> do so.
> > >>> >> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> > >>> >> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
> process
> > >>> to get
> > >>> >> the OS license?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but
> it
> > >>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note
> > the
> > >>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks,
> > >>> > Justin
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Ok Piotr,
I see there's no conversation on this topic, so I'll wait until all is
settled
thanks
2018-03-28 18:35 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Carlos,
>
> I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about 48
> hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
>
> Thanks,
> Piotr
>
> 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I can
> > go with it and complete?
> > I'll wait a few hours
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I created a draft page on website for this:
> > >
> > > * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the PMC
> > > want to thank you as described here [1]
> > > * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> > > * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
> > > companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think about
> 4
> > > for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> > > * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other company
> > > /people missed ??
> > > * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know if
> > > you agree
> > > * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
> > saying
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
> > >
> > > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > >> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> > >> thanks both
> > >>
> > >> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> > >>>
> > >>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> > >>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and
> link
> > >>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
> similar
> > with
> > >>> a link to the full page.)
> > >>>
> > >>> Harbs
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
> > justin@classsoftware.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi,
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok
> to
> > >>> do so.
> > >>> >> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> > >>> >> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
> process
> > >>> to get
> > >>> >> the OS license?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but
> it
> > >>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note
> > the
> > >>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks,
> > >>> > Justin
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Carlos,
I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about 48
hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
Thanks,
Piotr
2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi,
>
> so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I can
> go with it and complete?
> I'll wait a few hours
>
> thanks
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I created a draft page on website for this:
> >
> > * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the PMC
> > want to thank you as described here [1]
> > * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> > * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
> > companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think about 4
> > for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> > * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other company
> > /people missed ??
> > * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know if
> > you agree
> > * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
> saying
> > thanks
> >
> > If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
> >
> > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> >> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> >> thanks both
> >>
> >> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> >>>
> >>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> >>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> >>>
> >>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and link
> >>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or similar
> with
> >>> a link to the full page.)
> >>>
> >>> Harbs
> >>>
> >>> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
> justin@classsoftware.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> >> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to
> >>> do so.
> >>> >> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> >>> >> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process
> >>> to get
> >>> >> the OS license?
> >>> >
> >>> > I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it
> >>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note
> the
> >>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Justin
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi,
so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume I can
go with it and complete?
I'll wait a few hours
thanks
Carlos
2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi,
>
> I created a draft page on website for this:
>
> * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the PMC
> want to thank you as described here [1]
> * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
> companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think about 4
> for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other company
> /people missed ??
> * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know if
> you agree
> * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are saying
> thanks
>
> If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
>
> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
>> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
>> thanks both
>>
>> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
>>>
>>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
>>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
>>>
>>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and link
>>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or similar with
>>> a link to the full page.)
>>>
>>> Harbs
>>>
>>> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> >> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to
>>> do so.
>>> >> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
>>> >>
>>> >> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
>>> >> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
>>> >>
>>> >> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process
>>> to get
>>> >> the OS license?
>>> >
>>> > I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it
>>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note the
>>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Justin
>>> >
>>> > 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I created a draft page on website for this:
* I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the PMC want
to thank you as described here [1]
* Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
* Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what more
companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think about 4
for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
* Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other company
/people missed ??
* I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to know if you
agree
* texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are saying
thanks
If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
thanks
2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> thanks both
>
> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
>>
>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
>>
>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and link
>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or similar with
>> a link to the full page.)
>>
>> Harbs
>>
>> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to do
>> so.
>> >> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
>> >>
>> >> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
>> >> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
>> >>
>> >> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process to
>> get
>> >> the OS license?
>> >
>> > I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it
>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note the
>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Justin
>> >
>> > 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
thanks both
2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
>
> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
>
> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and link to
> that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or similar with a
> link to the full page.)
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to do
> so.
> >> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> >>
> >> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> >> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> >>
> >> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process to
> get
> >> the OS license?
> >
> > I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it can
> be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note the
> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only requirement is to have a consistent policy.
I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website and link to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or similar with a link to the full page.)
Harbs
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to do so.
>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
>>
>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
>>
>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process to get
>> the OS license?
>
> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note the rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks
Re: Browserstack Open Source License for Apache Royale project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's ok to do so.
> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
>
> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
>
> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the process to get
> the OS license?
I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme but it can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site. Note the rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
Thanks,
Justin
1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks