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Next hangout
Hi,
when could we have our next hangout. If I remember Anatole is unable to
joins on Mondays. Maybe there is day where we all able to take part?
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Extensions was serveral times broken because of invalid code. I think
not every one does a full build before the pushes his changes.
For me it is a issue we should discuss.
Oliver
Am 14.11.16 um 23:10 schrieb P. Ottlinger:
> Am 14.11.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Werner Keil:
>> Which builds are "broken", last time I could only see the "site"
>> (which seems a bit outdated anyway) really broken and "red" or are
>> there different Jenkins instances and some probably not so visible?;-O
> extension and sanbodx is unable to read the pom's which seems an infra
> problem to me.
>
> The cause for the site-build failures is still unknown, the build tries
> to reach out to nexus.codehaus.org ...
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
It is, but some dependencies still refer to the repository of codehaus.
Am 14.11.16 um 23:53 schrieb Werner Keil:
> This sounds bizarre, isn't Codehaus long gone?
> We saw something like it for at least a few weeks now.
> If it's an infrastructure bug then other projects or podlings should
> see the same.
>
> Maybe at ApacheCon in Seville Anatole could also ask around what's wrong.
>
> On 11/14/16, P. Ottlinger <po...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Am 14.11.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Werner Keil:
>> extension and sanbodx is unable to read the pom's which seems an infra
>> problem to me.
>>
>> The cause for the site-build failures is still unknown, the build tries
>> to reach out to nexus.codehaus.org ...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Phil
>>
>
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
This sounds bizarre, isn't Codehaus long gone?
We saw something like it for at least a few weeks now.
If it's an infrastructure bug then other projects or podlings should
see the same.
Maybe at ApacheCon in Seville Anatole could also ask around what's wrong.
On 11/14/16, P. Ottlinger <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> Am 14.11.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Werner Keil:
>> Which builds are "broken", last time I could only see the "site"
>> (which seems a bit outdated anyway) really broken and "red" or are
>> there different Jenkins instances and some probably not so visible?;-O
>
> extension and sanbodx is unable to read the pom's which seems an infra
> problem to me.
>
> The cause for the site-build failures is still unknown, the build tries
> to reach out to nexus.codehaus.org ...
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by "P. Ottlinger" <po...@apache.org>.
Am 14.11.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Werner Keil:
> Which builds are "broken", last time I could only see the "site"
> (which seems a bit outdated anyway) really broken and "red" or are
> there different Jenkins instances and some probably not so visible?;-O
extension and sanbodx is unable to read the pom's which seems an infra
problem to me.
The cause for the site-build failures is still unknown, the build tries
to reach out to nexus.codehaus.org ...
Cheers,
Phil
Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
I have a horrible Wifi here at the airport hotel, Gmail "slow" with
HTML only works, thanks to Google being flexible, but in Sofia I
should be able to look at Jenkins again.
Which builds are "broken", last time I could only see the "site"
(which seems a bit outdated anyway) really broken and "red" or are
there different Jenkins instances and some probably not so visible?;-O
--
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Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
I hope to join especially based on my recent presentation at Java2Days and
audience feedback.
CU,
Werner
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:59 PM, P. Ottlinger <po...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 14.11.2016 um 23:15 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> > If it s not to early it could work. I will heading back from sevilla.
> Afaik
> > 19h arrival. In the worst case I will join from the smartphone...
>
> please resend the link of the Hangout so I can see if I can make it or not.
>
> cu
> Phil
>
Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
I plan to, should arrive in FRA again around 5pm, so I expect to be back in
the room. Just hope the Wifi has mercy then🤔
The fact that examples 1-8 all seem to be completely missing (while not all
of them depend on ext modules like CDI) is a bit sad. Based on the concepts
Dmitry explained that are likely to be part of an upcoming JSR I was able
to demonstrate with those (0.2 state) simple command line examples how
Tamaya already works for such cases like PropertySource, etc.
I don't know what happened to them, or are we just missing another repo
like tamaya-examples?
Werner
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Oliver B. Fischer <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> wrote:
> Ok, I will send the link to the list. I will be online from 8 o'clock PM
> CEST. Join us then ever you want.
>
>
> Am 16.11.16 um 20:59 schrieb P. Ottlinger:
>
> Hi,
>>
>> Am 14.11.2016 um 23:15 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>>
>>> If it s not to early it could work. I will heading back from sevilla.
>>> Afaik
>>> 19h arrival. In the worst case I will join from the smartphone...
>>>
>> please resend the link of the Hangout so I can see if I can make it or
>> not.
>>
>> cu
>> Phil
>>
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Next hangout
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Ok, I will send the link to the list. I will be online from 8 o'clock PM
CEST. Join us then ever you want.
Am 16.11.16 um 20:59 schrieb P. Ottlinger:
> Hi,
>
> Am 14.11.2016 um 23:15 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>> If it s not to early it could work. I will heading back from sevilla. Afaik
>> 19h arrival. In the worst case I will join from the smartphone...
> please resend the link of the Hangout so I can see if I can make it or not.
>
> cu
> Phil
--
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A Sch�nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Next hangout
Posted by "P. Ottlinger" <po...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Am 14.11.2016 um 23:15 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> If it s not to early it could work. I will heading back from sevilla. Afaik
> 19h arrival. In the worst case I will join from the smartphone...
please resend the link of the Hangout so I can see if I can make it or not.
cu
Phil
Re: Next hangout
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
If it s not to early it could work. I will heading back from sevilla. Afaik
19h arrival. In the worst case I will join from the smartphone...
Am 14.11.2016 22:58 schrieb "Werner Keil" <we...@gmail.com>:
> I would be back on Friday.
>
> On 11/14/16, Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net> wrote:
> > So, what's about Friday?
> >
> > We should discuss the problem with the brocken builds. Also the next
> > release should be a topic.
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > Am 10.11.16 um 14:50 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> >> For me next week everything but Monday, Tuesday and Friday should work
> >> AFAIK...
> >>
> >> 2016-11-10 10:33 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> I am travelling (including the Tamaya part of a config session with
> >>> Dmitry
> >>> at Oracle) most of next week, so I cannot promise a particular day
> unless
> >>> I
> >>> am in the hotel and there is no speakers dinner or similar event.
> Monday
> >>> I
> >>> travel between 2 countries, so then it does not sound good. On Tue it
> >>> seems
> >>> possible, Java2Days has the traditional speaker's dinner, so for me
> only
> >>> Wed or Thu sound like I could have time (or Fri after returning to
> >>> Frankfurt)
> >>>
> >>> As Anatole speaks at ApacheCon later in the same week, he may of course
> >>> face similar constraints, so let's see when he thinks he could attend?
> >>>
> >>> Werner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Oliver B. Fischer <
> >>> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > N Oliver B. Fischer
> > A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > P +49 30 44793251
> > M +49 178 7903538
> > E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> > S oliver.b.fischer
> > J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> > X http://xing.to/obf
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
> Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR 363 Co Spec Lead |
> Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer
>
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
I would be back on Friday.
On 11/14/16, Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net> wrote:
> So, what's about Friday?
>
> We should discuss the problem with the brocken builds. Also the next
> release should be a topic.
>
> Oliver
>
> Am 10.11.16 um 14:50 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>> For me next week everything but Monday, Tuesday and Friday should work
>> AFAIK...
>>
>> 2016-11-10 10:33 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I am travelling (including the Tamaya part of a config session with
>>> Dmitry
>>> at Oracle) most of next week, so I cannot promise a particular day unless
>>> I
>>> am in the hotel and there is no speakers dinner or similar event. Monday
>>> I
>>> travel between 2 countries, so then it does not sound good. On Tue it
>>> seems
>>> possible, Java2Days has the traditional speaker's dinner, so for me only
>>> Wed or Thu sound like I could have time (or Fri after returning to
>>> Frankfurt)
>>>
>>> As Anatole speaks at ApacheCon later in the same week, he may of course
>>> face similar constraints, so let's see when he thinks he could attend?
>>>
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Oliver B. Fischer <
>>> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
--
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Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer
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#DevOps | #EclipseUOMo
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
So, what's about Friday?
We should discuss the problem with the brocken builds. Also the next
release should be a topic.
Oliver
Am 10.11.16 um 14:50 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> \u200bFor me next week everything but Monday, Tuesday and Friday should work
> AFAIK...\u200b
>
> 2016-11-10 10:33 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I am travelling (including the Tamaya part of a config session with Dmitry
>> at Oracle) most of next week, so I cannot promise a particular day unless I
>> am in the hotel and there is no speakers dinner or similar event. Monday I
>> travel between 2 countries, so then it does not sound good. On Tue it seems
>> possible, Java2Days has the traditional speaker's dinner, so for me only
>> Wed or Thu sound like I could have time (or Fri after returning to
>> Frankfurt)
>>
>> As Anatole speaks at ApacheCon later in the same week, he may of course
>> face similar constraints, so let's see when he thinks he could attend?
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Oliver B. Fischer <
>> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net> wrote:
>>
>
>
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Among other monitoring solutions I'll mention Incubating Apache Sirona at
Big Data next week, but compared to the Tamaya Jenkins its CI sessions do
not look so good: https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/Sirona/ A Windows
build that's been failing for many months. One branch/build job looks OK,
but the commit activity is generally quite low. Maybe I can point some
people to it in order to help improve that?;-)
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well they also show how it works based on what's out right now. If 0.3
> Snapshot is not so stable yet, it may be the prior one, but so far it has
> not been just slides. I won't have as much time as e.g. Anatole in his
> session because of a joint session with Dmitry, but since there is no
> actual JSR filed at this point, that's all the live demo there is;-)
>
> The only Jenkins build I see failing is Tamaya-site: https://builds.
> apache.org/view/S-Z/view/Tamaya/
> Maybe it's better to deactivate it, if replaced by a JBake site soon? The
> other builds look fairly good, Extensions has test failures, but well, that
> happens, especially if it's an extension module, if the "core" is stable
> and build works, I would not say it makes a bad impression.
>
> Werner
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:18 PM, P. Ottlinger <po...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Am 10.11.2016 um 23:16 schrieb Werner Keil:
>> > Well there are at least 2 occasions of "going public" or talking about
>> > Tamaya next week one as part of a wider Config session I have with
>> Dmitry
>> > at Java2Days, the other is Anatole at ApacheCon Europe on Tamaya.
>>
>> To my mind it's quite "hard" to go public with constantly failing builds
>> and a deprecated/old website .... but I assume that the talks are much
>> more introductory and will raise attention instead of working on the
>> code directly.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>
>
Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Well they also show how it works based on what's out right now. If 0.3
Snapshot is not so stable yet, it may be the prior one, but so far it has
not been just slides. I won't have as much time as e.g. Anatole in his
session because of a joint session with Dmitry, but since there is no
actual JSR filed at this point, that's all the live demo there is;-)
The only Jenkins build I see failing is Tamaya-site:
https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/Tamaya/
Maybe it's better to deactivate it, if replaced by a JBake site soon? The
other builds look fairly good, Extensions has test failures, but well, that
happens, especially if it's an extension module, if the "core" is stable
and build works, I would not say it makes a bad impression.
Werner
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:18 PM, P. Ottlinger <po...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Am 10.11.2016 um 23:16 schrieb Werner Keil:
> > Well there are at least 2 occasions of "going public" or talking about
> > Tamaya next week one as part of a wider Config session I have with Dmitry
> > at Java2Days, the other is Anatole at ApacheCon Europe on Tamaya.
>
> To my mind it's quite "hard" to go public with constantly failing builds
> and a deprecated/old website .... but I assume that the talks are much
> more introductory and will raise attention instead of working on the
> code directly.
>
> Phil
>
Re: Next hangout
Posted by "P. Ottlinger" <po...@apache.org>.
Am 10.11.2016 um 23:16 schrieb Werner Keil:
> Well there are at least 2 occasions of "going public" or talking about
> Tamaya next week one as part of a wider Config session I have with Dmitry
> at Java2Days, the other is Anatole at ApacheCon Europe on Tamaya.
To my mind it's quite "hard" to go public with constantly failing builds
and a deprecated/old website .... but I assume that the talks are much
more introductory and will raise attention instead of working on the
code directly.
Phil
Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Well there are at least 2 occasions of "going public" or talking about
Tamaya next week one as part of a wider Config session I have with Dmitry
at Java2Days, the other is Anatole at ApacheCon Europe on Tamaya.
I think there is also a "Podling Shark Tank" (kind of "Dragon's Den" I
guess) where maybe he could attract further collaborators or at least
interested parties;-)
Werner
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:09 PM, P. Ottlinger <po...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Am 10.11.2016 um 14:50 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> > For me next week everything but Monday, Tuesday and Friday should work
> > AFAIK...
>
> I'm only available on monday next week as I'm on a trade fair ....
> my agenda is to continue working on the webpage.
>
> Before we get builds stabilized (problems of the last months) I have a
> bad feeling to go public in any way.
>
> Sorry for the delay with the homepage :-(
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
>
Re: Next hangout
Posted by "P. Ottlinger" <po...@apache.org>.
Am 10.11.2016 um 14:50 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> \u200bFor me next week everything but Monday, Tuesday and Friday should work
> AFAIK...\u200b
I'm only available on monday next week as I'm on a trade fair ....
my agenda is to continue working on the webpage.
Before we get builds stabilized (problems of the last months) I have a
bad feeling to go public in any way.
Sorry for the delay with the homepage :-(
Cheers,
Phil
Re: Next hangout
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
For me next week everything but Monday, Tuesday and Friday should work
AFAIK...
2016-11-10 10:33 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>:
> I am travelling (including the Tamaya part of a config session with Dmitry
> at Oracle) most of next week, so I cannot promise a particular day unless I
> am in the hotel and there is no speakers dinner or similar event. Monday I
> travel between 2 countries, so then it does not sound good. On Tue it seems
> possible, Java2Days has the traditional speaker's dinner, so for me only
> Wed or Thu sound like I could have time (or Fri after returning to
> Frankfurt)
>
> As Anatole speaks at ApacheCon later in the same week, he may of course
> face similar constraints, so let's see when he thinks he could attend?
>
> Werner
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Oliver B. Fischer <
> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > when could we have our next hangout. If I remember Anatole is unable to
> > joins on Mondays. Maybe there is day where we all able to take part?
> >
> > --
> > N Oliver B. Fischer
> > A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > P +49 30 44793251
> > M +49 178 7903538
> > E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> > S oliver.b.fischer
> > J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> > X http://xing.to/obf
> >
> >
>
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Re: Next hangout
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
I am travelling (including the Tamaya part of a config session with Dmitry
at Oracle) most of next week, so I cannot promise a particular day unless I
am in the hotel and there is no speakers dinner or similar event. Monday I
travel between 2 countries, so then it does not sound good. On Tue it seems
possible, Java2Days has the traditional speaker's dinner, so for me only
Wed or Thu sound like I could have time (or Fri after returning to
Frankfurt)
As Anatole speaks at ApacheCon later in the same week, he may of course
face similar constraints, so let's see when he thinks he could attend?
Werner
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Oliver B. Fischer <
o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> when could we have our next hangout. If I remember Anatole is unable to
> joins on Mondays. Maybe there is day where we all able to take part?
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>