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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

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Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x

Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).

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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> The docs agree with the behavior only for the manager, that's the problem.

No. I only changed the manager docs. The config section of the docs 
remains as was - use "" for the root context.

> Previously the docs agreed with the configuration instructions, e.g. editing
> server.xml, and disagreed with the manager.  So we should clarify in the
> docs that what the manager reports as "/" is actually "" when you create
> context.xml files.

I will put in some additional text in the manager docs to highlight this.

> We've gotten easily 1000 times more questions from people putting "/" in
> configuration files (which is wrong) than we have people complaining about
> "/" in the manager.  If we have to pick one, the former (the way the docs
> previously were) is much better.  But we don't have to pick just one
> thankfully, we can have docs that cover both the manager display and the
> configuration.

This is exactly what we now have.

> This issue comes up often enough on the list that this is worthwhile,
> otherwise I wouldn't have said anything...
> 
> Yoav
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:59 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
> string for root context path instead of "/"
> 
> The manager would be wrong if:
> 
> a) we had a consistent way of handling the ROOT context
> b) the agreed consistent way to reference ROOT was ""
> 
> I am not aware of a) and from a user perspective "/" seems to make more 
> sense for b)
> 
> At least at present the docs agree with the actual behaviour.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>IT might be the manager that's wrong.  When editing server.xml or
>>context.xml files for those Tomcat versions, users should use path="" and
>>not path="/".  The latter leads to significant failures.
>>
>>Yoav
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:30 PM
>>To: Tomcat Developers List
>>Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
>>string for root context path instead of "/"
>>
>>I did a quick test (on TC4 and TC5) before changing the docs.
>>
>>http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=/
>>returns
>>OK - Reloaded application at context path /
>>
>>http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=
>>returns
>>FAIL - Invalid context path  was specified
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>Yoav Shapira wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>I thought the docs were right, path="" for the ROOT, not path="/".  And
>>>therefore I thought this was an invalid bug report.  Was I wrong?
>>>
>>>Yoav
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bugzilla@apache.org [mailto:bugzilla@apache.org] 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:11 PM
>>>To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>>>Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
>>>string for root context path instead of "/"
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>            Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>>>        Resolution|                            |FIXED
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>------- Additional Comments From markt@apache.org  2005-01-11 22:11
>>
>>-------
>>
>>
>>>Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x
>>>
>>>Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).
>>>
>>
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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@MIT.EDU>.
Hi,
Big duh on my part.  I just realized the bug spoke Only about the manager
docs page.  The patch is fine, my mistake, good job fixing it, and thank you
;)

Yoav

-----Original Message-----
From: Yoav Shapira [mailto:yoavsh@MIT.EDU] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:04 PM
To: 'Tomcat Developers List'
Subject: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
string for root context path instead of "/"

Hi,
The docs agree with the behavior only for the manager, that's the problem.
Previously the docs agreed with the configuration instructions, e.g. editing
server.xml, and disagreed with the manager.  So we should clarify in the
docs that what the manager reports as "/" is actually "" when you create
context.xml files.

We've gotten easily 1000 times more questions from people putting "/" in
configuration files (which is wrong) than we have people complaining about
"/" in the manager.  If we have to pick one, the former (the way the docs
previously were) is much better.  But we don't have to pick just one
thankfully, we can have docs that cover both the manager display and the
configuration.

This issue comes up often enough on the list that this is worthwhile,
otherwise I wouldn't have said anything...

Yoav

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:59 PM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
string for root context path instead of "/"

The manager would be wrong if:

a) we had a consistent way of handling the ROOT context
b) the agreed consistent way to reference ROOT was ""

I am not aware of a) and from a user perspective "/" seems to make more 
sense for b)

At least at present the docs agree with the actual behaviour.

Mark

Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> IT might be the manager that's wrong.  When editing server.xml or
> context.xml files for those Tomcat versions, users should use path="" and
> not path="/".  The latter leads to significant failures.
> 
> Yoav
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:30 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
> string for root context path instead of "/"
> 
> I did a quick test (on TC4 and TC5) before changing the docs.
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=/
> returns
> OK - Reloaded application at context path /
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=
> returns
> FAIL - Invalid context path  was specified
> 
> Mark
> 
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>I thought the docs were right, path="" for the ROOT, not path="/".  And
>>therefore I thought this was an invalid bug report.  Was I wrong?
>>
>>Yoav
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bugzilla@apache.org [mailto:bugzilla@apache.org] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:11 PM
>>To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
>>string for root context path instead of "/"
>>
>>DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG.
>>RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT
>><http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867>.
>>ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND.
>>INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE.
>>
>>http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867
>>
>>
>>markt@apache.org changed:
>>
>>           What    |Removed                     |Added
>>
> 
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>>         Resolution|                            |FIXED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------- Additional Comments From markt@apache.org  2005-01-11 22:11
> 
> -------
> 
>>Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x
>>
>>Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).
>>
> 
> 
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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@MIT.EDU>.
Hi,
The docs agree with the behavior only for the manager, that's the problem.
Previously the docs agreed with the configuration instructions, e.g. editing
server.xml, and disagreed with the manager.  So we should clarify in the
docs that what the manager reports as "/" is actually "" when you create
context.xml files.

We've gotten easily 1000 times more questions from people putting "/" in
configuration files (which is wrong) than we have people complaining about
"/" in the manager.  If we have to pick one, the former (the way the docs
previously were) is much better.  But we don't have to pick just one
thankfully, we can have docs that cover both the manager display and the
configuration.

This issue comes up often enough on the list that this is worthwhile,
otherwise I wouldn't have said anything...

Yoav

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:59 PM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
string for root context path instead of "/"

The manager would be wrong if:

a) we had a consistent way of handling the ROOT context
b) the agreed consistent way to reference ROOT was ""

I am not aware of a) and from a user perspective "/" seems to make more 
sense for b)

At least at present the docs agree with the actual behaviour.

Mark

Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> IT might be the manager that's wrong.  When editing server.xml or
> context.xml files for those Tomcat versions, users should use path="" and
> not path="/".  The latter leads to significant failures.
> 
> Yoav
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:30 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
> string for root context path instead of "/"
> 
> I did a quick test (on TC4 and TC5) before changing the docs.
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=/
> returns
> OK - Reloaded application at context path /
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=
> returns
> FAIL - Invalid context path  was specified
> 
> Mark
> 
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>I thought the docs were right, path="" for the ROOT, not path="/".  And
>>therefore I thought this was an invalid bug report.  Was I wrong?
>>
>>Yoav
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bugzilla@apache.org [mailto:bugzilla@apache.org] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:11 PM
>>To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
>>string for root context path instead of "/"
>>
>>DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG.
>>RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT
>><http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867>.
>>ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND.
>>INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE.
>>
>>http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867
>>
>>
>>markt@apache.org changed:
>>
>>           What    |Removed                     |Added
>>
> 
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>>         Resolution|                            |FIXED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------- Additional Comments From markt@apache.org  2005-01-11 22:11
> 
> -------
> 
>>Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x
>>
>>Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
The manager would be wrong if:

a) we had a consistent way of handling the ROOT context
b) the agreed consistent way to reference ROOT was ""

I am not aware of a) and from a user perspective "/" seems to make more 
sense for b)

At least at present the docs agree with the actual behaviour.

Mark

Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> IT might be the manager that's wrong.  When editing server.xml or
> context.xml files for those Tomcat versions, users should use path="" and
> not path="/".  The latter leads to significant failures.
> 
> Yoav
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:30 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
> string for root context path instead of "/"
> 
> I did a quick test (on TC4 and TC5) before changing the docs.
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=/
> returns
> OK - Reloaded application at context path /
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=
> returns
> FAIL - Invalid context path  was specified
> 
> Mark
> 
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>I thought the docs were right, path="" for the ROOT, not path="/".  And
>>therefore I thought this was an invalid bug report.  Was I wrong?
>>
>>Yoav
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bugzilla@apache.org [mailto:bugzilla@apache.org] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:11 PM
>>To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
>>string for root context path instead of "/"
>>
>>DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG.
>>RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT
>><http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867>.
>>ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND.
>>INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE.
>>
>>http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867
>>
>>
>>markt@apache.org changed:
>>
>>           What    |Removed                     |Added
>>
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>>         Resolution|                            |FIXED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------- Additional Comments From markt@apache.org  2005-01-11 22:11
> 
> -------
> 
>>Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x
>>
>>Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).
>>
> 
> 
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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> IT might be the manager that's wrong.  When editing server.xml or
> context.xml files for those Tomcat versions, users should use path="" and
> not path="/".  The latter leads to significant failures.

Well, sort of. The only place where you can still use it is server.xml, 
though, so IMO it doesn't matter.

Rémy

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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@MIT.EDU>.
Hi,
IT might be the manager that's wrong.  When editing server.xml or
context.xml files for those Tomcat versions, users should use path="" and
not path="/".  The latter leads to significant failures.

Yoav

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:30 PM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
string for root context path instead of "/"

I did a quick test (on TC4 and TC5) before changing the docs.

http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=/
returns
OK - Reloaded application at context path /

http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=
returns
FAIL - Invalid context path  was specified

Mark

Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> I thought the docs were right, path="" for the ROOT, not path="/".  And
> therefore I thought this was an invalid bug report.  Was I wrong?
> 
> Yoav
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugzilla@apache.org [mailto:bugzilla@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:11 PM
> To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
> string for root context path instead of "/"
> 
> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG.
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> 
> markt@apache.org changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>          Resolution|                            |FIXED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------- Additional Comments From markt@apache.org  2005-01-11 22:11
-------
> Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x
> 
> Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).
> 


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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
I did a quick test (on TC4 and TC5) before changing the docs.

http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=/
returns
OK - Reloaded application at context path /

http://localhost:8080/manager/reload?path=
returns
FAIL - Invalid context path  was specified

Mark

Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> I thought the docs were right, path="" for the ROOT, not path="/".  And
> therefore I thought this was an invalid bug report.  Was I wrong?
> 
> Yoav
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugzilla@apache.org [mailto:bugzilla@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:11 PM
> To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
> string for root context path instead of "/"
> 
> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG.
> RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT
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> INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE.
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> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867
> 
> 
> markt@apache.org changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>          Resolution|                            |FIXED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------- Additional Comments From markt@apache.org  2005-01-11 22:11 -------
> Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x
> 
> Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).
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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length string for root context path instead of "/"

Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@MIT.EDU>.
Hi,
I thought the docs were right, path="" for the ROOT, not path="/".  And
therefore I thought this was an invalid bug report.  Was I wrong?

Yoav

-----Original Message-----
From: bugzilla@apache.org [mailto:bugzilla@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:11 PM
To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28867] - Documentation mentions zero-length
string for root context path instead of "/"

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG.
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<http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867>.
ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND.
INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE.

http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28867


markt@apache.org changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




------- Additional Comments From markt@apache.org  2005-01-11 22:11 -------
Fixed in CVS for 4.1.x and 5.5.x

Thansk for the report and the patch (I actually committed a variation).

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