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回复： Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Then launch this PMC chair vote as soon as possible
I support Mingyu to be this Chair.
+1
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发件人: "dev" <lingmiao@apache.org>;
发送时间: 2022年4月2日(星期六) 上午10:52
收件人: "dev"<dev@doris.apache.org>;
主题: Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Maybe we should open a new thread to vote the PMC Chair ~
Ling Miao
De Li <lide@apache.org> 于2022年4月2日周六 10:45写道：
> I very agree with Willem Jiang.
> Here is my +1 for Mingyu as the PMC Chair.
>
> ---
> lide-reed
> lide@apache.org
>
> On 2022/04/02 02:36:59 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
> > to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
> > For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
> > leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <morningman@163.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss
> about it.
> > > This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the
> nomination of the PMC Chair.
> > > The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the
> board about the health and status of their project.
> > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and
> be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > >
> > >
> > > As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > > During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push
> things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other
> ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you
> are
> > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > >
> > >
> > > =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
> > > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> > >
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> establish
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> > > and analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible
> for
> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> > > further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris
> Project;
> > > and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> > >
> > >
> > > * Bin Ling <lingbin@apache.org>
> > > * Bo Wang <wangbo@apache.org>
> > > * Chaoyong Li <lichaoyong@apache.org>
> > > * Chun Zhao <zhaoc@apache.org>
> > > * Conghui Cai <caiconghui@apache.org>
> > > * Dayue Gao <gaodayue@apache.org>
> > > * De Li <lide@apache.org>
> > > * Hangyuan Liu <liuhangyuan@apache.org>
> > > * Hao Chen <chenhao@apache.org>
> > > * HaoPeng Li <lihaopeng@apache.org>
> > > * Jiafeng Zhang <jiafengzheng@apache.org>
> > > * Kaisen Kang <kangkaisen@apache.org>
> > > * Ling Miao <lingmiao@apache.org>
> > > * Ming Wen <wenming@apache.org>
> > > * Mingyu Chen <morningman@apache.org>
> > > * Ruyue Ma <maruyue@apache.org>
> > > * Shao Feng Shi <shaofengshi@apache.org>
> > > * Sijie Guo <sijie@apache.org>
> > > * Willem Ning Jiang <ningjiang@apache.org>
> > > * Zheng Shao <zshao@apache.org>
> > > * Zhengguo Yang <yangzhg@apache.org>
> > > * Zuo Wei <weizuo@apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed
> to
> > > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
> > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> of
> > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the
> > > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling;
> and
> > > be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > discharged.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > 此致！Best Regards
> > > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >
> > > Email:
> > > chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <lingmiao@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
> > > >
> > > >What preparations are we missing before launching a community
> discussion at
> > > >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
> > > >
> > > >Ling Miao
> > > >
> > > >陈明雨 <morningman@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
> > > >
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on
> suggestions.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from
> the
> > > >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
> > > >> so that we can release these modules independently.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector
> components.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
> > > >> 2.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
> > > >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation
> issues now.
> > > >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the
> Resolution and
> > > >> start a discussion at IPMC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >>
> > > >> Email:
> > > >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <tangyun@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >> >Thanks for the explanations.
> > > >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Best
> > > >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >
> > > >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about
> "doris" on
> > > >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
> > > >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved
> at the
> > > >> end of Feb.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Email:
> > > >> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <tangyun@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation
> from the
> > > >> incubator!
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Best
> > > >> >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
> > > >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> 陈明雨 <morningman@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before
> entering
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
> > > >> version of
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
> > > >> planning are
> > > >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back
> some new
> > > >> features
> > > >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left
> join ->
> > > >> inner join
> > > >> >> >> > [2], etc.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala
> PMC,
> > > >> we found
> > > >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
> > > >> implemented.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace,
> and many
> > > >> common
> > > >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
> > > >> functionality, with
> > > >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > --
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Email:
> > > >> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <morningman@163.com> 写道：
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to
> discuss
> > > >> it. I
> > > >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this
> issue.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >--
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Email:
> > > >> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <
> willem.jiang@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up
> the
> > > >> community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
> > > >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <morningman@163.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for
> over 3
> > > >> years
> > > >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot
> about
> > > >> open
> > > >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's
> philosophy
> > > >> on
> > > >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters
> related
> > > >> to Doris'
> > > >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of
> the Doris
> > > >> project
> > > >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
> > > >> companies,
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new
> PPMC
> > > >> members),
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
> > > >> subscribers, and
> > > >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the
> dev@doris.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance
> issues
> > > >> have
> > > >> >> >> > been resolved.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
> > > >> Foundation
> > > >> >> >> > requirements[2].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check
> List[4]
> > > >> following
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently
> moving
> > > >> forward.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
> > > >> incubating[5][6]. I
> > > >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate
> the
> > > >> mentors'
> > > >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala
> version
> > > >> v0.7 and
> > > >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the
> project
> > > >> (hands-on
> > > >> >> >> > code merge).
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire
> to
> > > >> decouple the
> > > >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer
> of
> > > >> abstract API.
> > > >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's
> evolution.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it
> difficult
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on
> the
> > > >> Hadoop
> > > >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse
> or
> > > >> DBMS system.
> > > >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not
> meet the
> > > >> needs of
> > > >> >> >> > both projects.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and
> has
> > > >> its own
> > > >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the
> query
> > > >> layer with
> > > >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
> > > >> architectural
> > > >> >> >> > changes for this.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized
> execution
> > > >> engine that
> > > >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
> > > >> different from
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to
> continue to
> > > >> follow
> > > >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and
> integrations.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
> > > >> compliant with
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the
> relationship
> > > >> between
> > > >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README
> file[9] and
> > > >> thank the
> > > >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
> > > >> original
> > > >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for
> necessary
> > > >> discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be
> discussed before
> > > >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [3]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [4]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [5]
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [6]
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [7]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [8]
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [9]
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> --
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
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