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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by theUser BL <th...@hotmail.com> on 2010/08/21 15:56:17 UTC

German Java developer are angry about Oracle

Hi!
 
I already have send this news the day before yesterday to OSNews.com. But it is still not published. Also I have send it to Slashdot.
But I think it could this could be interesting for you and if it is published on OSNews or Slashdot it is then old. In germany the news was on the different news-sides, but not on international news sides.
 
Greatings
theuserbl


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The german iJUG (interest-network of Java User Groups) have published its statement about Oracle:
http://www.ijug.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22:java-entwickler-sind-veraergert-ueber-die-informationspolitik-von-oracle&catid=2:news&Itemid=4

The german iJUG is a umbrella organization of nine german Java User Groups and a german Oracle User Group.

The iJUG criticised that on the last events of Oracle nothing was said about the future of Java.
Additional the common Blogs and Twitter places publishing a lot of lesser informations.

A different problem is seen, that Oracle don't say anything about the relationship between its OpenSource products and the commercial variants like on GlassFish. "Oracle always say, its the same products with different license", said iJUG board member and leader of the Java User Group Erlangen/Nürnberg Oliver Szymanski, "but currently don't exists a evidence for it". Additional the behavior with OpenJDK7 and the future of JDK7 is unclear.

After the disappointed session of Oracle on the Java Forum Stattgart in Germany it stand in discussion, if the Java-Community should take the future of Java in its own hand. "For example you could much stronger agree for a further stage of OpenJDK", said Tobias Frech from the Java User Group Stuttgart. "JavaFX wants the community as OpenSource, too, to have the possibility to further develop it".

Kristian Rink from the Java User Group Saxony thinks to the same direction: "The technical aspects of the JVM should be within the scope of the JCP completly from the community and interested stakeholder done." For the JVM and JDK should be - in his opinion - the existing Sun-implementation as product-proof implementation by an Oracle-extern, open and company-independend unit like Apache or the Eclipse realised, which besiedes long-term ensuring of availability both technologies for development/evolution and priduct-distribution, additional respect the interests of the stakeholder in technical details and realizing it, without to be too much handicapped with the own product- and project-planing.

Concretely the users have questions like:
- Will be Java in the future further on created within the JCP? When yes, when will be a JSR for Java 7 start?
- Comming license-changes for the Java runtime, the JDK or JavaFX, especially with a view of the current lawsuit Oracle/Google?
- What plans Oracle to do long-term with duplications of much programs under one roof (GlassFish / WebLogic, Sun JDK / JRockit, Netbeans / JDeveloper)?
- Will Oracle be hold the Sun-policy, to not deploy its own patent rights against Open-Source-implementations?
- What happens with the Java Store? 
- What happens with the former Sun employees?

The Java-Community is relative big and heterogeneous. There exists lot of commercial and non-commercail units, which its business operations, projects and activities have based on Java as the current ecosystem and which have hence a legitimate interest to have a continuousness of the status quo.
Java-developer telling however the iJUG permanent about project, where the use of Java would be sensible, but because of different reasons fail and other technologies have been used. "We giving Oracle time until the JavaOne on september", Fried Saacke sum up. "If there will be nothing satisfiable communicated, we will think about alternative strategies."

The iJUG have already spoken with Oracle about the mentioned problems and the company have appreciated it. Now the user waiting urging, that the producer appropriate react.