apache-sshd releases

[Alon Bar-Lev <al...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

I want to ask regarding the release sequence.

At site I see latest is 0.9.0[1].

At maven central I see 0.10.0[2].

It mirrors I see 0.10.0[3].

At git I can see 0.10.1[4] tagged.

Quite confusing :)

Can the site[1] be modified with latest? and can 0.10.1 be available
if was released?

Thanks,
Alon

[1] http://mina.apache.org/sshd-project/downloads.html
[2] http://search.maven.org/#search|gav|1|g%3A%22org.apache.sshd%22%20AND%20a%3A%22sshd%22
[3] http://apache.spd.co.il/mina/sshd/
[4] https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=mina-sshd.git;a=summary

Re: apache-sshd releases

[Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>]

Le 3/5/14 11:28 PM, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> 2014-03-05 23:19 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Le 3/5/14 10:13 PM, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
>>> 2014-03-05 18:53 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Can the site[1] be modified with latest?
>>>> It's already up to date.
>>>>
>>> Not really actually.  The 0.10.0 has been released 2 weeks ago.
>> No, not according to The ASF and this project standards :
>>
>> "[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Mina SSHD 0.10.0"
>>
>> This has *not* been released. You have created a candidate for a vote,
>> which you have cancelled.
>>
> Yes, and a few days later we have:
>
> [RESULT] [VOTE] Release SSHD 0.10.0 (2nd cut)

F. me... The mail was stored in my JIRA sub-foldre (don't know why it
went thre, I have to check my thunderbird filters).

Ok, so we don't have an updated web site.
>
>
>>> I was going to update it when I just found that 0.10.0 was not working
>> for
>>> me so I started the  0.10.1 release.
>>> I thought about skipping that one and only update for 0.10.1 ...
>> I'd rather keep going with 0.10.0.
>>
>> Again, as I said, I think it's really confusing to increment the number
>> of candidates when the vote is not successful.
>> But this is probably something we should discuss on the dev mailing list.
>>
>>
> I fully agree with you, but those are actually 2 different releases.
> The 0.10.0 has been released, 0.10.1 is still under vote.

Ok, agreed then.

What do you want to do ? Keep 0.10.0 under the radar (ie not visible on
the web site) until 0.10.1 is voted ? (I have no pb with this approach,
but I think it would be a good politic to inform the dev list that you
want to do so).

On my side, I'm going to do my homework, check the 0.10.1, as you need
at least my vote to get it out (and I'm sorry for having been sloppy).

Thanks for the heads up !

-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com 

Re: apache-sshd releases

[Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>]

2014-03-05 23:19 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>:

> Le 3/5/14 10:13 PM, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> > 2014-03-05 18:53 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >>
> >> Can the site[1] be modified with latest?
> >> It's already up to date.
> >>
> > Not really actually.  The 0.10.0 has been released 2 weeks ago.
> No, not according to The ASF and this project standards :
>
> "[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Mina SSHD 0.10.0"
>
> This has *not* been released. You have created a candidate for a vote,
> which you have cancelled.
>

Yes, and a few days later we have:

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release SSHD 0.10.0 (2nd cut)


>
> > I was going to update it when I just found that 0.10.0 was not working
> for
> > me so I started the  0.10.1 release.
> > I thought about skipping that one and only update for 0.10.1 ...
>
> I'd rather keep going with 0.10.0.
>
> Again, as I said, I think it's really confusing to increment the number
> of candidates when the vote is not successful.
> But this is probably something we should discuss on the dev mailing list.
>
>
I fully agree with you, but those are actually 2 different releases.
The 0.10.0 has been released, 0.10.1 is still under vote.


>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
>

Re: apache-sshd releases

[Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>]

Le 3/5/14 10:13 PM, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> 2014-03-05 18:53 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> Can the site[1] be modified with latest?
>> It's already up to date.
>>
> Not really actually.  The 0.10.0 has been released 2 weeks ago.
No, not according to The ASF and this project standards :

"[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Mina SSHD 0.10.0"

This has *not* been released. You have created a candidate for a vote,
which you have cancelled.

> I was going to update it when I just found that 0.10.0 was not working for
> me so I started the  0.10.1 release.
> I thought about skipping that one and only update for 0.10.1 ...

I'd rather keep going with 0.10.0.

Again, as I said, I think it's really confusing to increment the number
of candidates when the vote is not successful.
But this is probably something we should discuss on the dev mailing list.



-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com 

Re: apache-sshd releases

[Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>]

2014-03-05 18:53 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>:

> Le 3/5/14 6:44 PM, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to ask regarding the release sequence.
> >
> > At site I see latest is 0.9.0[1].
>
> This is the latest release.
> >
> > At maven central I see 0.10.0[2].
> this is a tag not a release.
> >
> > It mirrors I see 0.10.0[3].
> Same.
> >
> > At git I can see 0.10.1[4] tagged.
> Same.
> >
> > Quite confusing :)
>
> Nope. We do release sources, not binaries. Official binaries are those
> available on the MINA web site, and anything else are just working
> artefacts.
>
> We do not endorse any release which ha snot be voted and signed.
> >
> > Can the site[1] be modified with latest?
> It's already up to date.
>

Not really actually.  The 0.10.0 has been released 2 weeks ago.
I was going to update it when I just found that 0.10.0 was not working for
me so I started the  0.10.1 release.
I thought about skipping that one and only update for 0.10.1 ...


>
> > and can 0.10.1 be available
> > if was released?
>
> A vote is going on, and if the vote has not been closed, it's probably
> because some issues have been found in SSHD.
>

In the case of 0.10.1, we're missing a few votes.  I suppose it won't be
long before it is released now.
There are a few bugs with workarounds, so I'm planning a 0.10.2 release to
fix those in the coming weeks.


>
>
> Side note, for devs :
> Here, I think we should agree that when the vote is not closed, then we
> should cancel teh vote after the 72 delays. Also we should probably not
> use a new revision number for each attempt : this is typically teh kind
> of confusion we get if we do what sebb was proposing, and this is the
> reason we delete the tags if the vote is cancelled.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
>

Re: apache-sshd releases

[Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>]

Le 3/5/14 6:44 PM, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I want to ask regarding the release sequence.
>
> At site I see latest is 0.9.0[1].

This is the latest release.
>
> At maven central I see 0.10.0[2].
this is a tag not a release.
>
> It mirrors I see 0.10.0[3].
Same.
>
> At git I can see 0.10.1[4] tagged.
Same.
>
> Quite confusing :)

Nope. We do release sources, not binaries. Official binaries are those
available on the MINA web site, and anything else are just working
artefacts.

We do not endorse any release which ha snot be voted and signed.
>
> Can the site[1] be modified with latest? 
It's already up to date.

> and can 0.10.1 be available
> if was released?

A vote is going on, and if the vote has not been closed, it's probably
because some issues have been found in SSHD.


Side note, for devs :
Here, I think we should agree that when the vote is not closed, then we
should cancel teh vote after the 72 delays. Also we should probably not
use a new revision number for each attempt : this is typically teh kind
of confusion we get if we do what sebb was proposing, and this is the
reason we delete the tags if the vote is cancelled.

Thoughts ?

-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com