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Posted to dev@jmeter.apache.org by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> on 2017/05/21 11:50:34 UTC
Re: JMeter HTTP/2 support
Hello,
Hc5 is making progress but will rely on java 9 for Alpl for example.
Shouldn't we start some work in a new branch of JMeter (or create a branch
for 3.x and work on 4.x in master)
I see following pro/cons:
+ start some work asap
+ give feedback on hc5 and potentially orient some decisions on its design
+ oleg proposed his help
+ we need to rething recorder architecture as it's tightly linked to http1
- Hc5 is still alpha
- I feel Oleg is a bit alone on this piece of work ( http/2)
- It will only work with Java9 , when will java9 be released and what will
be its adoption rate particularly with module feature which will also
incurs work on our side
And another thing, shouldn't we consider other libraries like netty for
example ?
Http/2 is coming at a high pace and I feel we should not wait anymore.
Regards
On Sunday, May 21, 2017, Felix Schumacher <fe...@internetallee.de>
wrote:
> Am 18.05.2017 um 23:56 schrieb John Melom:
>
>>
>> Are there plans to support HTTP/2 in JMeter? I saw some discussion from
>> a year ago, but haven’t seen anything about this since that. This will
>> become increasingly important at my company and I would like to be in a
>> position to provide some insight on the performance differences between
>> HTTPS with HTTP 1.1 and HTTP/2.
>>
>> We are definitely interested in http/2 support for JMeter. But we are
> waiting for HTTPClient to support it, so that we can build upon that.
>
> Any help here is much appreciated.
>
> Felix
>
>>
>> John Melom
>>
>> Performance Test Engineer
>>
>> Spōk, Inc.
>>
>> +1 (952) 230 5311 /Office/
>>
>> John.Melom@spok.com <ma...@spok.com>
>>
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>>
>>
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Re: JMeter HTTP/2 support
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 2017-09-03 at 17:47 +0200, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
> HC5 is still young (alpha) to migrate no ?
> A first step for us would be to complete our migration from 4.2 to
> 4.5. Do
> you think it is useful or we should wait for HC5 to be GA and do the
> migration at that time ?
>
Not much younger than other implementations.
> Regarding HTTP 2, HC5 without Java 9 has still the limitation with
> ALPN
> which means we need to move to Java 9 to have it.
>
*Sigh*. I already tried to explain the same thing more than once here
on this list.
HC does not have this limitation, JSSE does. All HTTP/2 running on pre
Java9 JREs have _exactly_ the same problem. Some projects chose to
employ various work-around for the issue involving various trade-offs
and downsides. If you are comfortable using those work-arounds there is
nothing stopping you from using them with HC.
Oleg
> Regarding work on HTTP2 and HC5, would you be able to help us on
> moving
> forward to HC5 + HTTP2 implementation or you already have a lot of
> work on
> it ?
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2017-08-30 at 16:58 +0200, Antonio Gomes Rodrigues wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Netty have release a new version with a new HTTP/2 API
> > >
> > > More information in
> > > https://netty.io/news/2017/08/25/4-0-51-Final-4-1-15-Final.html
> > >
> > > I don't know if it's a good idea to wait for Hc5 and Java9. It
> > > could
> > > take
> > > to much time before the 2 are released and more time will be
> > > needed
> > > to
> > > implement it in JMeter
> > >
> > > Antonio
> > >
> >
> > I am not quite sure what is stopping you from using HC5 already. I
> > am
> > not sure how exactly it is related to Java 9 at all.
> >
> > Oleg
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-05-21 13:50 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gma
> > > il.c
> > > om>:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Hc5 is making progress but will rely on java 9 for Alpl for
> > > > example.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't we start some work in a new branch of JMeter (or
> > > > create a
> > > > branch
> > > > for 3.x and work on 4.x in master)
> > > >
> > > > I see following pro/cons:
> > > > + start some work asap
> > > > + give feedback on hc5 and potentially orient some decisions on
> > > > its
> > > > design
> > > > + oleg proposed his help
> > > > + we need to rething recorder architecture as it's tightly
> > > > linked
> > > > to http1
> > > >
> > > > - Hc5 is still alpha
> > > > - I feel Oleg is a bit alone on this piece of work ( http/2)
> > > > - It will only work with Java9 , when will java9 be released
> > > > and
> > > > what will
> > > > be its adoption rate particularly with module feature which
> > > > will
> > > > also
> > > > incurs work on our side
> > > >
> > > > And another thing, shouldn't we consider other libraries like
> > > > netty
> > > > for
> > > > example ?
> > > >
> > > > Http/2 is coming at a high pace and I feel we should not wait
> > > > anymore.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, May 21, 2017, Felix Schumacher <felix.schumacher@
> > > > internetallee.de>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Am 18.05.2017 um 23:56 schrieb John Melom:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are there plans to support HTTP/2 in JMeter? I saw some
> > > > > > discussion from
> > > > > > a year ago, but haven’t seen anything about this since
> > > > > > that. This will
> > > > > > become increasingly important at my company and I would
> > > > > > like to
> > > > > > be in a
> > > > > > position to provide some insight on the performance
> > > > > > differences
> > > > > > between
> > > > > > HTTPS with HTTP 1.1 and HTTP/2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are definitely interested in http/2 support for JMeter.
> > > > > > But
> > > > > > we are
> > > > >
> > > > > waiting for HTTPClient to support it, so that we can build
> > > > > upon
> > > > > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help here is much appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Felix
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Melom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Performance Test Engineer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spōk, Inc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 (952) 230 5311 <(952)%20230-5311> /Office/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John.Melom@spok.com <ma...@spok.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cid:image001.jpg@01D1E1AF.34FE1C10 <http://info.spok.com/sp
> > > > > > okmo
> > > > > > bilevid>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cordialement.
> > > > Philippe Mouawad.
> > > >
>
>
>
Re: JMeter HTTP/2 support
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hi Oleg,
HC5 is still young (alpha) to migrate no ?
A first step for us would be to complete our migration from 4.2 to 4.5. Do
you think it is useful or we should wait for HC5 to be GA and do the
migration at that time ?
Regarding HTTP 2, HC5 without Java 9 has still the limitation with ALPN
which means we need to move to Java 9 to have it.
Regarding work on HTTP2 and HC5, would you be able to help us on moving
forward to HC5 + HTTP2 implementation or you already have a lot of work on
it ?
Thanks
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-08-30 at 16:58 +0200, Antonio Gomes Rodrigues wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Netty have release a new version with a new HTTP/2 API
> >
> > More information in
> > https://netty.io/news/2017/08/25/4-0-51-Final-4-1-15-Final.html
> >
> > I don't know if it's a good idea to wait for Hc5 and Java9. It could
> > take
> > to much time before the 2 are released and more time will be needed
> > to
> > implement it in JMeter
> >
> > Antonio
> >
>
> I am not quite sure what is stopping you from using HC5 already. I am
> not sure how exactly it is related to Java 9 at all.
>
> Oleg
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-05-21 13:50 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.c
> > om>:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > Hc5 is making progress but will rely on java 9 for Alpl for
> > > example.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't we start some work in a new branch of JMeter (or create a
> > > branch
> > > for 3.x and work on 4.x in master)
> > >
> > > I see following pro/cons:
> > > + start some work asap
> > > + give feedback on hc5 and potentially orient some decisions on its
> > > design
> > > + oleg proposed his help
> > > + we need to rething recorder architecture as it's tightly linked
> > > to http1
> > >
> > > - Hc5 is still alpha
> > > - I feel Oleg is a bit alone on this piece of work ( http/2)
> > > - It will only work with Java9 , when will java9 be released and
> > > what will
> > > be its adoption rate particularly with module feature which will
> > > also
> > > incurs work on our side
> > >
> > > And another thing, shouldn't we consider other libraries like netty
> > > for
> > > example ?
> > >
> > > Http/2 is coming at a high pace and I feel we should not wait
> > > anymore.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sunday, May 21, 2017, Felix Schumacher <felix.schumacher@
> > > internetallee.de>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am 18.05.2017 um 23:56 schrieb John Melom:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there plans to support HTTP/2 in JMeter? I saw some
> > > > > discussion from
> > > > > a year ago, but haven’t seen anything about this since
> > > > > that. This will
> > > > > become increasingly important at my company and I would like to
> > > > > be in a
> > > > > position to provide some insight on the performance differences
> > > > > between
> > > > > HTTPS with HTTP 1.1 and HTTP/2.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are definitely interested in http/2 support for JMeter. But
> > > > > we are
> > > >
> > > > waiting for HTTPClient to support it, so that we can build upon
> > > > that.
> > > >
> > > > Any help here is much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Felix
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John Melom
> > > > >
> > > > > Performance Test Engineer
> > > > >
> > > > > Spōk, Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 (952) 230 5311 <(952)%20230-5311> /Office/
> > > > >
> > > > > John.Melom@spok.com <ma...@spok.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > cid:image001.jpg@01D1E1AF.34FE1C10 <http://info.spok.com/spokmo
> > > > > bilevid>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------
> > > > > /*NOTE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole
> > > > > use of
> > > > > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or
> > > > > privileged
> > > > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
> > > > > distribution is
> > > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> > > > > contact
> > >
> > > the
> > > > > sender by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of the
> > > > > original
> > > > > message and any material included with this email.*/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cordialement.
> > > Philippe Mouawad.
> > >
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: JMeter HTTP/2 support
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2017-08-30 at 16:58 +0200, Antonio Gomes Rodrigues wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Netty have release a new version with a new HTTP/2 API
>
> More information in
> https://netty.io/news/2017/08/25/4-0-51-Final-4-1-15-Final.html
>
> I don't know if it's a good idea to wait for Hc5 and Java9. It could
> take
> to much time before the 2 are released and more time will be needed
> to
> implement it in JMeter
>
> Antonio
>
I am not quite sure what is stopping you from using HC5 already. I am
not sure how exactly it is related to Java 9 at all.
Oleg
>
>
>
> 2017-05-21 13:50 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.c
> om>:
>
> > Hello,
> > Hc5 is making progress but will rely on java 9 for Alpl for
> > example.
> >
> > Shouldn't we start some work in a new branch of JMeter (or create a
> > branch
> > for 3.x and work on 4.x in master)
> >
> > I see following pro/cons:
> > + start some work asap
> > + give feedback on hc5 and potentially orient some decisions on its
> > design
> > + oleg proposed his help
> > + we need to rething recorder architecture as it's tightly linked
> > to http1
> >
> > - Hc5 is still alpha
> > - I feel Oleg is a bit alone on this piece of work ( http/2)
> > - It will only work with Java9 , when will java9 be released and
> > what will
> > be its adoption rate particularly with module feature which will
> > also
> > incurs work on our side
> >
> > And another thing, shouldn't we consider other libraries like netty
> > for
> > example ?
> >
> > Http/2 is coming at a high pace and I feel we should not wait
> > anymore.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, May 21, 2017, Felix Schumacher <felix.schumacher@
> > internetallee.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Am 18.05.2017 um 23:56 schrieb John Melom:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Are there plans to support HTTP/2 in JMeter? I saw some
> > > > discussion from
> > > > a year ago, but haven’t seen anything about this since
> > > > that. This will
> > > > become increasingly important at my company and I would like to
> > > > be in a
> > > > position to provide some insight on the performance differences
> > > > between
> > > > HTTPS with HTTP 1.1 and HTTP/2.
> > > >
> > > > We are definitely interested in http/2 support for JMeter. But
> > > > we are
> > >
> > > waiting for HTTPClient to support it, so that we can build upon
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Any help here is much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Felix
> > >
> > > >
> > > > John Melom
> > > >
> > > > Performance Test Engineer
> > > >
> > > > Spōk, Inc.
> > > >
> > > > +1 (952) 230 5311 /Office/
> > > >
> > > > John.Melom@spok.com <ma...@spok.com>
> > > >
> > > > cid:image001.jpg@01D1E1AF.34FE1C10 <http://info.spok.com/spokmo
> > > > bilevid>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ------------
> > > > /*NOTE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole
> > > > use of
> > > > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or
> > > > privileged
> > > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
> > > > distribution is
> > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> > > > contact
> >
> > the
> > > > sender by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of the
> > > > original
> > > > message and any material included with this email.*/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >
Re: JMeter HTTP/2 support
Posted by Antonio Gomes Rodrigues <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Netty have release a new version with a new HTTP/2 API
More information in
https://netty.io/news/2017/08/25/4-0-51-Final-4-1-15-Final.html
I don't know if it's a good idea to wait for Hc5 and Java9. It could take
to much time before the 2 are released and more time will be needed to
implement it in JMeter
Antonio
2017-05-21 13:50 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
> Hc5 is making progress but will rely on java 9 for Alpl for example.
>
> Shouldn't we start some work in a new branch of JMeter (or create a branch
> for 3.x and work on 4.x in master)
>
> I see following pro/cons:
> + start some work asap
> + give feedback on hc5 and potentially orient some decisions on its design
> + oleg proposed his help
> + we need to rething recorder architecture as it's tightly linked to http1
>
> - Hc5 is still alpha
> - I feel Oleg is a bit alone on this piece of work ( http/2)
> - It will only work with Java9 , when will java9 be released and what will
> be its adoption rate particularly with module feature which will also
> incurs work on our side
>
> And another thing, shouldn't we consider other libraries like netty for
> example ?
>
> Http/2 is coming at a high pace and I feel we should not wait anymore.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Sunday, May 21, 2017, Felix Schumacher <felix.schumacher@
> internetallee.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Am 18.05.2017 um 23:56 schrieb John Melom:
> >
> >>
> >> Are there plans to support HTTP/2 in JMeter? I saw some discussion from
> >> a year ago, but haven’t seen anything about this since that. This will
> >> become increasingly important at my company and I would like to be in a
> >> position to provide some insight on the performance differences between
> >> HTTPS with HTTP 1.1 and HTTP/2.
> >>
> >> We are definitely interested in http/2 support for JMeter. But we are
> > waiting for HTTPClient to support it, so that we can build upon that.
> >
> > Any help here is much appreciated.
> >
> > Felix
> >
> >>
> >> John Melom
> >>
> >> Performance Test Engineer
> >>
> >> Spōk, Inc.
> >>
> >> +1 (952) 230 5311 /Office/
> >>
> >> John.Melom@spok.com <ma...@spok.com>
> >>
> >> cid:image001.jpg@01D1E1AF.34FE1C10 <http://info.spok.com/spokmobilevid>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> >> /*NOTE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of
> >> the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> >> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is
> >> prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact
> the
> >> sender by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of the original
> >> message and any material included with this email.*/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
>