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答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
Thanks,
________________________________________
发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Dear All,
Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
regards,
Rams
Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by Jean-Marc Spaggiari <je...@spaggiari.org>.
I think there is also https://github.com/yahoo/omid . Not sure of the
status of any of those have never tried them neither...
2014-06-09 12:49 GMT-04:00 James Lee <ro...@gmail.com>:
> I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
> One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of multi-row
> transaction.
>
> For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
> It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
> https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
>
> There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
> It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase, developed by
> XiaoMi developers.
> https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
>
> Regards,
> James.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu> wrote:
>
> > In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
> > use-cases for this combination.
> > http://hbasecon.com
> > You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile using the
> > hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
> > One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the presentation
> > called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
> > Best wishes
> >
> > On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
> > > borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > ________________________________________
> > > 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
> > > 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
> > > 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
> > > 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
> > > implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Rams
> >
> > --
> > Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz> (@marcosluis2186
> > <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
> > http://about.me/marcosortiz
> >
> > VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11 de
> > julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> *이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
>
> Blog: http://eincs.net
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>
RE: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by "Birdsall, Dave" <da...@hp.com>.
Hi,
Trafodion uses the MVCC concurrency model. So reads are always allowed. It checks for conflicts at transaction commit.
Updates made by a transaction become visible to other reads at commit time.
Regards,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Segel [mailto:michael_segel@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:08 PM
To: user@hbase.apache.org
Subject: Re: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
So how do you handle isolation?
Dirty reads?
The point is that you can have scenarios where data exists yet is missing from other queries.
On Jun 11, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Tapper, Gunnar <gu...@hp.com> wrote:
> Trafodion is a bit more than a transaction engine: it's a full-fledge SQL implementation on top of HBase.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> The person that says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.
>
> Download a free version of HPDSM, a unified big-data administration
> tool for Vertica and Hadoop at: http://www.vertica.com/marketplace
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Yu [mailto:yuzhihong@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 5:48 PM
> To: user@hbase.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE
> as OLTP
>
> One more transaction engine: trafodion
>
> See public wiki at http://wiki.trafodion.org
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To my understanding, 0.98.3 would be the next stable release.
>>
>> Supporting 0.98 in Haeinsa would give more users a chance to try it out.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:34 PM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ted Yu:
>>> Thank you for the notice.
>>>
>>> I know there are major changes on HBase client interface in 0.98.
>>> I'm sure that supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa will be sooner than
>>> upgrading of our cluster.
>>> There is no plan to upgrade our HBase cluster to 0.98 for now, but
>>> supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa is the sooner the better.
>>> It would not be too late.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> James:
>>>> Nice to hear from you.
>>>>
>>>> I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase
>>>> version of 0.94.3.
>>>> Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
>>>>
>>>> 0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
>>>>> One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of
>>>>> multi-row transaction.
>>>>>
>>>>> For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
>>>>> It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
>>>>> https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
>>>>>
>>>>> There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
>>>>> It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase,
>>>>> developed by XiaoMi developers.
>>>>> https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> James.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
>>>>>> use-cases for this combination.
>>>>>> http://hbasecon.com
>>>>>> You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile
>>>>>> using
>>> the
>>>>>> hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
>>>>>> One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the
>>> presentation
>>>>>> called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
>>>>>>> borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [
>>> ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
>>>>>>> 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
>>>>>>> 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
>>>>>>> implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Rams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz>
>>>>>> (@marcosluis2186
>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
>>>>>> http://about.me/marcosortiz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al
>>>>>> 11
>>> de
>>>>>> julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *이 정 행 / James Lee*
>>>
>>>
>>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>>>
>>
>>
Re: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by Michael Segel <mi...@hotmail.com>.
So how do you handle isolation?
Dirty reads?
The point is that you can have scenarios where data exists yet is missing from other queries.
On Jun 11, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Tapper, Gunnar <gu...@hp.com> wrote:
> Trafodion is a bit more than a transaction engine: it's a full-fledge SQL implementation on top of HBase.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> The person that says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.
>
> Download a free version of HPDSM, a unified big-data administration tool for Vertica and Hadoop at: http://www.vertica.com/marketplace
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Yu [mailto:yuzhihong@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 5:48 PM
> To: user@hbase.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
>
> One more transaction engine: trafodion
>
> See public wiki at http://wiki.trafodion.org
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To my understanding, 0.98.3 would be the next stable release.
>>
>> Supporting 0.98 in Haeinsa would give more users a chance to try it out.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:34 PM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ted Yu:
>>> Thank you for the notice.
>>>
>>> I know there are major changes on HBase client interface in 0.98.
>>> I'm sure that supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa will be sooner than
>>> upgrading of our cluster.
>>> There is no plan to upgrade our HBase cluster to 0.98 for now, but
>>> supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa is the sooner the better.
>>> It would not be too late.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> James:
>>>> Nice to hear from you.
>>>>
>>>> I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase
>>>> version of 0.94.3.
>>>> Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
>>>>
>>>> 0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
>>>>> One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of
>>>>> multi-row transaction.
>>>>>
>>>>> For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
>>>>> It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
>>>>> https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
>>>>>
>>>>> There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
>>>>> It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase,
>>>>> developed by XiaoMi developers.
>>>>> https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> James.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are
>>>>>> several use-cases for this combination.
>>>>>> http://hbasecon.com
>>>>>> You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile
>>>>>> using
>>> the
>>>>>> hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
>>>>>> One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the
>>> presentation
>>>>>> called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
>>>>>>> borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [
>>> ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
>>>>>>> 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
>>>>>>> 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as
>>>>>>> OLTP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Request your help in providing link to the White
>>>>>>> papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Rams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz>
>>>>>> (@marcosluis2186
>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
>>>>>> http://about.me/marcosortiz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio
>>>>>> al 11
>>> de
>>>>>> julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *이 정 행 / James Lee*
>>>
>>>
>>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>>>
>>
>>
RE: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by "Tapper, Gunnar" <gu...@hp.com>.
Trafodion is a bit more than a transaction engine: it's a full-fledge SQL implementation on top of HBase.
Thanks,
Gunnar
The person that says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.
Download a free version of HPDSM, a unified big-data administration tool for Vertica and Hadoop at: http://www.vertica.com/marketplace
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Yu [mailto:yuzhihong@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 5:48 PM
To: user@hbase.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
One more transaction engine: trafodion
See public wiki at http://wiki.trafodion.org
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To my understanding, 0.98.3 would be the next stable release.
>
> Supporting 0.98 in Haeinsa would give more users a chance to try it out.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:34 PM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ted Yu:
>> Thank you for the notice.
>>
>> I know there are major changes on HBase client interface in 0.98.
>> I'm sure that supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa will be sooner than
>> upgrading of our cluster.
>> There is no plan to upgrade our HBase cluster to 0.98 for now, but
>> supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa is the sooner the better.
>> It would not be too late.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > James:
>> > Nice to hear from you.
>> >
>> > I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase
>> > version of 0.94.3.
>> > Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
>> >
>> > 0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
>> >
>> > Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
>> > > One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of
>> > > multi-row transaction.
>> > >
>> > > For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
>> > > It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
>> > > https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
>> > >
>> > > There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
>> > > It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase,
>> > > developed by XiaoMi developers.
>> > > https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > James.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are
>> > > > several use-cases for this combination.
>> > > > http://hbasecon.com
>> > > > You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile
>> > > > using
>> the
>> > > > hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
>> > > > One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the
>> presentation
>> > > > called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
>> > > > Best wishes
>> > > >
>> > > > On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
>> > > > > borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > ________________________________________
>> > > > > 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [
>> ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
>> > > > > 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
>> > > > > 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
>> > > > > 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as
>> > > > > OLTP
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Dear All,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Request your help in providing link to the White
>> > > > > papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > regards,
>> > > > > Rams
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz>
>> > > > (@marcosluis2186
>> > > > <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
>> > > > http://about.me/marcosortiz
>> > > >
>> > > > VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio
>> > > > al 11
>> de
>> > > > julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > *이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
>> > >
>> > > Blog: http://eincs.net
>> > > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>> > > LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *이 정 행 / James Lee*
>>
>>
>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>>
>
>
Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com>.
One more transaction engine: trafodion
See public wiki at http://wiki.trafodion.org
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To my understanding, 0.98.3 would be the next stable release.
>
> Supporting 0.98 in Haeinsa would give more users a chance to try it out.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:34 PM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ted Yu:
>> Thank you for the notice.
>>
>> I know there are major changes on HBase client interface in 0.98.
>> I'm sure that supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa will be sooner than
>> upgrading of our cluster.
>> There is no plan to upgrade our HBase cluster to 0.98 for now,
>> but supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa is the sooner the better.
>> It would not be too late.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > James:
>> > Nice to hear from you.
>> >
>> > I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase version
>> > of 0.94.3.
>> > Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
>> >
>> > 0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
>> >
>> > Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
>> > > One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of multi-row
>> > > transaction.
>> > >
>> > > For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
>> > > It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
>> > > https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
>> > >
>> > > There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
>> > > It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase, developed by
>> > > XiaoMi developers.
>> > > https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > James.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
>> > > > use-cases for this combination.
>> > > > http://hbasecon.com
>> > > > You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile using
>> the
>> > > > hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
>> > > > One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the
>> presentation
>> > > > called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
>> > > > Best wishes
>> > > >
>> > > > On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
>> > > > > borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > ________________________________________
>> > > > > 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [
>> ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
>> > > > > 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
>> > > > > 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
>> > > > > 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Dear All,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
>> > > > > implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > regards,
>> > > > > Rams
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz> (@marcosluis2186
>> > > > <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
>> > > > http://about.me/marcosortiz
>> > > >
>> > > > VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11
>> de
>> > > > julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > *이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
>> > >
>> > > Blog: http://eincs.net
>> > > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>> > > LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *이 정 행 / James Lee*
>>
>>
>> Blog: http://eincs.net
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
>> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>>
>
>
Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com>.
To my understanding, 0.98.3 would be the next stable release.
Supporting 0.98 in Haeinsa would give more users a chance to try it out.
Cheers
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:34 PM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ted Yu:
> Thank you for the notice.
>
> I know there are major changes on HBase client interface in 0.98.
> I'm sure that supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa will be sooner than
> upgrading of our cluster.
> There is no plan to upgrade our HBase cluster to 0.98 for now,
> but supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa is the sooner the better.
> It would not be too late.
>
> Sincerely,
> James
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > James:
> > Nice to hear from you.
> >
> > I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase version
> > of 0.94.3.
> > Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
> >
> > 0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
> >
> > Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
> > > One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of multi-row
> > > transaction.
> > >
> > > For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
> > > It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
> > > https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
> > >
> > > There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
> > > It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase, developed by
> > > XiaoMi developers.
> > > https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > James.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
> > > > use-cases for this combination.
> > > > http://hbasecon.com
> > > > You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile using
> the
> > > > hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
> > > > One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the presentation
> > > > called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
> > > > > borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [
> ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
> > > > > 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
> > > > > 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
> > > > > 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
> > > > > implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Rams
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz> (@marcosluis2186
> > > > <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
> > > > http://about.me/marcosortiz
> > > >
> > > > VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11
> de
> > > > julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
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> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by James Lee <ro...@gmail.com>.
Ted Yu:
Thank you for the notice.
I know there are major changes on HBase client interface in 0.98.
I'm sure that supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa will be sooner than
upgrading of our cluster.
There is no plan to upgrade our HBase cluster to 0.98 for now,
but supporting HBase 0.98 in Haeinsa is the sooner the better.
It would not be too late.
Sincerely,
James
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> James:
> Nice to hear from you.
>
> I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase version
> of 0.94.3.
> Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
>
> 0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
>
> Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
> > One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of multi-row
> > transaction.
> >
> > For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
> > It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
> > https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
> >
> > There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
> > It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase, developed by
> > XiaoMi developers.
> > https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
> >
> > Regards,
> > James.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu> wrote:
> >
> > > In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
> > > use-cases for this combination.
> > > http://hbasecon.com
> > > You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile using the
> > > hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
> > > One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the presentation
> > > called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
> > > > borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
> > > > 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
> > > > 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
> > > > 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
> > > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
> > > > implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Rams
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz> (@marcosluis2186
> > > <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
> > > http://about.me/marcosortiz
> > >
> > > VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11 de
> > > julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
> >
> > Blog: http://eincs.net
> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
> > LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
> >
>
--
*이 정 행 / James Lee*
Blog: http://eincs.net
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
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Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com>.
James:
Nice to hear from you.
I refreshed local workspace for haeinsa. In pom.xml, I see hbase version
of 0.94.3.
Latest 0.94 release was 0.94.20
0.98.3 was released this past weekend.
Do you have plan to bring 0.98 support to haeinsa ?
Cheers
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM, James Lee <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
> One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of multi-row
> transaction.
>
> For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
> It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
> https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
>
> There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
> It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase, developed by
> XiaoMi developers.
> https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
>
> Regards,
> James.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu> wrote:
>
> > In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
> > use-cases for this combination.
> > http://hbasecon.com
> > You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile using the
> > hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
> > One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the presentation
> > called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
> > Best wishes
> >
> > On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
> > > borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > ________________________________________
> > > 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
> > > 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
> > > 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
> > > 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
> > > implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Rams
> >
> > --
> > Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz> (@marcosluis2186
> > <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
> > http://about.me/marcosortiz
> >
> > VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11 de
> > julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> *이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
>
> Blog: http://eincs.net
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
>
Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by James Lee <ro...@gmail.com>.
I'm using HBase as OLTP for about 3 years.
One of biggest pain point of using HBase as OLTP was lack of multi-row
transaction.
For this reason, we implemented multi-row transaction on top of HBase.
It was designed to support OLTP (low latency and so on).
https://github.com/vcnc/haeinsa/
There is another approach to support multi-row transaction also.
It's implementation of Google Percolator on top of HBase, developed by
XiaoMi developers.
https://github.com/XiaoMi/themis/
Regards,
James.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu> wrote:
> In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
> use-cases for this combination.
> http://hbasecon.com
> You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile using the
> hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
> One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the presentation
> called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
> Best wishes
>
> On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
> > borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ________________________________________
> > 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
> > 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
> > 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
> > 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
> > implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
> >
> > regards,
> > Rams
>
> --
> Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz> (@marcosluis2186
> <http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
> http://about.me/marcosortiz
>
> VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11 de
> julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
>
>
--
*이 정 행 / Jung-Haeng Lee*
Blog: http://eincs.net
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eincs
Twitter: http://twitter.com/eincs
LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/eincs
Re: 答复: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by Marcos Ortiz <ml...@uci.cu>.
In the last HBaseCon and in the HBaseCon 2013, there are several
use-cases for this combination.
http://hbasecon.com
You could search at Slideshare.net in the Cloudera's profile using the
hbasecon tag all presentations related to the conference.
One of my favorite sessions in the HBaseCon 2013 was the presentation
called "Low Latency OLAP with HBase" by Cosmin Lehene from Adobe.
Best wishes
On 09/06/14 05:03, 谢良 wrote:
> borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>
> Thanks,
> ________________________________________
> 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
> 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
> 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
> 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
>
> Dear All,
>
> Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
> implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>
> regards,
> Rams
--
Marcos Ortiz <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlortiz> (@marcosluis2186
<http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186>)
http://about.me/marcosortiz
VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11 de julio de 2014. Ver www.uci.cu
Re: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by Michael Segel <mi...@hotmail.com>.
You're missing too many things.
Why do you want to use the wrong tool for the job.
OLTP is a different beast from what HBase has to offer.
On Jun 9, 2014, at 7:10 AM, N. Ramasubramanian <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the link… but in messaging there will not be any update.. but in the real time OLTP there will be huge updates… any suggestions how to handle this..
>
> regards,
> Rams
>
> On 09-Jun-2014, at 2:33 pm, 谢良 <xi...@xiaomi.com> wrote:
>
>> borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ________________________________________
>> 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
>> 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
>> 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
>> 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
>> implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>>
>> regards,
>> Rams
>
>
The opinions expressed here are mine, while they may reflect a cognitive thought, that is purely accidental.
Use at your own risk.
Michael Segel
michael_segel (AT) hotmail.com
Re: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
Posted by "N. Ramasubramanian" <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for the link… but in messaging there will not be any update.. but in the real time OLTP there will be huge updates… any suggestions how to handle this..
regards,
Rams
On 09-Jun-2014, at 2:33 pm, 谢良 <xi...@xiaomi.com> wrote:
> borthakur.com/ftp/RealtimeHadoopSigmod2011.pdf
>
> Thanks,
> ________________________________________
> 发件人: Ramasubramanian Narayanan [ramasubramanian.narayanan@gmail.com]
> 发送时间: 2014年6月9日 13:27
> 收件人: user@hive.apache.org; user@hbase.apache.org
> 主题: White papers/Solution implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP
>
> Dear All,
>
> Request your help in providing link to the White papers/Solution
> implemented to use HIVE/HBASE as OLTP.
>
> regards,
> Rams