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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net> on 2003/08/01 15:29:50 UTC
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT]: Xerces-J 2.5.0 now available
Elena Litani wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>The Xerces-J team is very happy to announce that version 2.5.0 of
>Xerces-J is now available.
>
>This release provides a partial partial implementation of the XML
>Inclusions (XInclude) W3C Candidate Recommendation
>
Has anybody seen this / tried this with Cocoon?
Vadim
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT]: Xerces-J 2.5.0 now available
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
On Friday, Aug 1, 2003, at 17:10 Europe/Rome, Bruno Dumon wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 17:06, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
>> Steven Noels wrote:
>>> On 1/08/2003 15:29 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The Xerces-J team is very happy to announce that version 2.5.0 of
>>>>> Xerces-J is now available. This release provides a partial partial
>>>>> implementation of the XML
>>>>> Inclusions (XInclude) W3C Candidate Recommendation
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody seen this / tried this with Cocoon?
>>>
>>>
>>> Our own Transformer already does XPointer & XML Base.
>>
>> But I would *love* to delegate that to the Xerces guys, if possible...
>> out implementation is partial and probably not going anywhere, theirs
>> might be much more supported and vital.
>>
>
> I find it quite odd that XInclude is part of the parser. They could as
> well start putting XSLT support in there.
I wouldn't be surprised if they added an XNI filter based on Xalan.
After a while, a parser is a parser, there is not so much you can do on
it ;-)
remeber that Xerces is pipeline based as well (internally).
> A cocoon XInclude transformer has the advantage that you can put it
> anywhere in the pipeline, i.e. after another transformation has been
> applied. And it allows to do XInclude processing on stuff that's not
> parsed from an XML file.
totally agre here.
--
Stefano.
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT]: Xerces-J 2.5.0 now available
Posted by Bruno Dumon <br...@outerthought.org>.
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 17:06, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
> > On 1/08/2003 15:29 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> >
> >>> The Xerces-J team is very happy to announce that version 2.5.0 of
> >>> Xerces-J is now available. This release provides a partial partial
> >>> implementation of the XML
> >>> Inclusions (XInclude) W3C Candidate Recommendation
> >>>
> >>
> >> Has anybody seen this / tried this with Cocoon?
> >
> >
> > Our own Transformer already does XPointer & XML Base.
>
> But I would *love* to delegate that to the Xerces guys, if possible...
> out implementation is partial and probably not going anywhere, theirs
> might be much more supported and vital.
>
I find it quite odd that XInclude is part of the parser. They could as
well start putting XSLT support in there.
A cocoon XInclude transformer has the advantage that you can put it
anywhere in the pipeline, i.e. after another transformation has been
applied. And it allows to do XInclude processing on stuff that's not
parsed from an XML file.
--
Bruno Dumon http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
bruno@outerthought.org bruno@apache.org
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT]: Xerces-J 2.5.0 now available
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 1/08/2003 17:06 Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
> out implementation is partial and probably not going anywhere, theirs
> might be much more supported and vital.
That _might_ be just the case. ;-)
I wouldn't downplay what we are doing with low-level XML handling stuff,
and also this often results in bugs being reported to the parser gurus.
I've been doing some light XSLT development today, and I ended up being
slightly annoyed with the quality of error handling in Xalan (let alone
the way the eventual messages are being thrown forward in Cocoon).
I'd like to see a more unified approach however to the (n)Include stuff,
it might be better to extend the standards syntax with specific
constructs available as features in Cocoon's own Include transformer,
rather than having two Include transformers side-by-side.
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT]: Xerces-J 2.5.0 now available
Posted by Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:
> On 1/08/2003 15:29 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
>
>>> The Xerces-J team is very happy to announce that version 2.5.0 of
>>> Xerces-J is now available. This release provides a partial partial
>>> implementation of the XML
>>> Inclusions (XInclude) W3C Candidate Recommendation
>>>
>>
>> Has anybody seen this / tried this with Cocoon?
>
>
> Our own Transformer already does XPointer & XML Base.
But I would *love* to delegate that to the Xerces guys, if possible...
out implementation is partial and probably not going anywhere, theirs
might be much more supported and vital.
Ciao,
--
Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. - http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
(Now blogging at: http://blogs.cocoondev.org/gianugo/)
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT]: Xerces-J 2.5.0 now available
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 1/08/2003 15:29 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
>> The Xerces-J team is very happy to announce that version 2.5.0 of
>> Xerces-J is now available.
>> This release provides a partial partial implementation of the XML
>> Inclusions (XInclude) W3C Candidate Recommendation
>>
>
> Has anybody seen this / tried this with Cocoon?
Our own Transformer already does XPointer & XML Base.
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org