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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Paul Pattison <pa...@76design.com> on 2001/11/13 08:34:41 UTC
Quick clarification
I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
me. I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1. I've been using it non-stop for
the last couple weeks and I love it.
My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top of
the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server. But
from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
just running Tomcat's web server? Is this true? Should I do a separate
Apache install?
If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:
Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
Starting service Tomcat-Apache
Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
Thanks,
Paul
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Re: Quick clarification
Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
TC can respond to requests on 80 if configured in server.xml to do so. It
has it's own java based web server that by all accounts I've seen on the list
is very close to as fast as Apache, just not as configurable. Unfortunately,
if you are in a *nix environment, TC has to run as root to serve requests on
80 and that's a nasty security problem.
--David Smith
On Tuesday 13 November 2001 02:45 am, you wrote:
> When requesting a jsp are you using a port request?
>
> Apache by default is set up on port 80 (the default port for all
> webservers) i.e. http://localhost
> Tomcat is set up for requests to come on port 8080
> i.e. http://localhost:8080
> I'm sure you could configure TC to take requests on port 80
> TC comes with it's own webserver so there is no "Need" for an apache
> install but there are many features inherent witha full apache install that
> are not present with TC's webserver
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Pattison" <pa...@76design.com>
> To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:34 AM
> Subject: Quick clarification
>
> > I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
> > me. I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1. I've been using it non-stop
>
> for
>
> > the last couple weeks and I love it.
> >
> > My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top
>
> of
>
> > the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
> > was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server.
>
> But
>
> > from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
> > just running Tomcat's web server? Is this true? Should I do a separate
> > Apache install?
> >
> > If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:
> >
> > Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
> > Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
> > Starting service Tomcat-Apache
> > Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
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Re: Quick clarification
Posted by Michael Kelley <MK...@m-v-t.com>.
When requesting a jsp are you using a port request?
Apache by default is set up on port 80 (the default port for all webservers)
i.e. http://localhost
Tomcat is set up for requests to come on port 8080
i.e. http://localhost:8080
I'm sure you could configure TC to take requests on port 80
TC comes with it's own webserver so there is no "Need" for an apache install
but there are many features inherent witha full apache install that are not
present with TC's webserver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Pattison" <pa...@76design.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:34 AM
Subject: Quick clarification
> I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
> me. I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1. I've been using it non-stop
for
> the last couple weeks and I love it.
>
> My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top
of
> the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
> was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server.
But
> from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
> just running Tomcat's web server? Is this true? Should I do a separate
> Apache install?
>
> If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:
>
> Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
> Starting service Tomcat-Apache
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
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RE: Quick clarification
Posted by Paul Pattison <pa...@76design.com>.
Ok, my next question is that I want to be able to run JSPs and PHP. Is that
something that requires a full Apache install? I was recently reading about
a Servlet that comes with PHP 4 that could process PHP files. It comes with
a standard PHP 4 download. Has anybody else heard of this or better yet,
got it working?
-----Original Message-----
From: craigmcc@adam.apexintel.net [mailto:craigmcc@adam.apexintel.net]On
Behalf Of Craig R. McClanahan
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Quick clarification
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Paul Pattison wrote:
> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:34:41 -0500
> From: Paul Pattison <pa...@76design.com>
> Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Quick clarification
>
> I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
> me. I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1. I've been using it non-stop
for
> the last couple weeks and I love it.
>
> My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top
of
> the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
> was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server.
But
> from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
> just running Tomcat's web server? Is this true? Should I do a separate
> Apache install?
>
Tomcat includes its own "web server" capabilities. When you point your
browser at URLs on port 8080, you are talking to Tomcat's internal HTTP
connector, and bypassing Apache or any other web server.
You should only install Apache if you need something it provides that
Tomcat doesn't, Otherwise, running on Tomcat standalone is perfectly
sufficient.
> If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:
>
> Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
> Starting service Tomcat-Apache
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
Craig
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Re: Quick clarification
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Paul Pattison wrote:
> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:34:41 -0500
> From: Paul Pattison <pa...@76design.com>
> Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Quick clarification
>
> I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
> me. I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1. I've been using it non-stop for
> the last couple weeks and I love it.
>
> My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top of
> the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
> was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server. But
> from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
> just running Tomcat's web server? Is this true? Should I do a separate
> Apache install?
>
Tomcat includes its own "web server" capabilities. When you point your
browser at URLs on port 8080, you are talking to Tomcat's internal HTTP
connector, and bypassing Apache or any other web server.
You should only install Apache if you need something it provides that
Tomcat doesn't, Otherwise, running on Tomcat standalone is perfectly
sufficient.
> If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:
>
> Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
> Starting service Tomcat-Apache
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
Craig
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RE: Quick clarification
Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ma...@isallineed.org>.
You still have to do some work to actually have to 2 talking to eachother eg
install mod_webapp, or ajp module for apache, update the config files for
apache). It just states that tomcat is ready and waiting for apache (which
is I presume the default in the installation of tomcat). There is some
documentation regarding this in the installation and is well discussed here
on the mailinglists.
Mvgr,
Martin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Pattison [mailto:paul@76design.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:35 AM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Quick clarification
>
>
> I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
> me. I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1. I've been using it
> non-stop for
> the last couple weeks and I love it.
>
> My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was
> built on top of
> the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
> was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web
> server. But
> from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
> just running Tomcat's web server? Is this true? Should I do a separate
> Apache install?
>
> If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:
>
> Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
> Starting service Tomcat-Apache
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
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