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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Molle Bestefich <mo...@gmail.com> on 2005/10/24 08:19:36 UTC
Microsoft Access
The book says that Microsoft Office supports WebDAV.
That's not entirely true, only some components of Microsoft Office support it.
Here's a patch for the book which mentions that WebDAV is disabled for
MS Access.
Whatcha say? Too verbose or imprecise, or 's it OK? Yarrr.
Index: appb.xml
===================================================================
--- appb.xml (revision 1676)
+++ appb.xml (working copy)
@@ -798,6 +798,10 @@
these programs, since OS X already provides such excellent
low-level filesystem support for WebDAV.</para>
+ <para>Microsoft Access is incompatible with WebDAV. WebDAV support
+ has been explicitly disabled for this Office application
+ by Microsoft, probably because of locking and latency
issues.</para>
+
</sect2>
</sect1>
Re: Microsoft Access
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Molle Bestefich <mo...@gmail.com> writes:
> > Upon review of the Appendix, though, I think the solution isn't to
> > call out Access as being problematic, but to stop referring to
> > Office as if it was a piece of software (it's a suite of software
> > packages) and to explicitly call out Word, Excel, and Powerpoint as
> > having WebDAV interoperability.
>
> InfoPath, Publisher and Visio too.
> And the small stuff like Picture Manager, Document Imaging, Snapshot Viewer...
>
> Basically anything that uses the Open dialog that all Office
> applications share - except for Access where it's been explicitly
> disabled.
>
> I think mentioning them all might be too verbose..
Oh, geez, yeah. That's a good point. You know, the more I read that
whole region of Appendix B, the less I like it's organization. I'm
going to rewrite that sucker, and I'll not the Access thingy when I do
so. Thanks, Molle.
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Re: Microsoft Access
Posted by Molle Bestefich <mo...@gmail.com>.
C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> (book development happens at svnbook-dev@red-bean.com).
Right, will take it there.
> thanks for the patch.
No need, it obviously wasn't hard work :-).
Just wanted to correct a little white lie.
> I think it's a bit verbose,
The previous section about MacOS X MS-Office not supporting WebDAV is
double the size of the patch. I was kind of following that lead.
> there's no need to make guesses about the reasoning behind any of
> Microsoft's decisions.
Right, will stop doing that.
> Also, to claim that Microsoft Access is incompatible with WebDAV
> implies that you cannot use Access in any fashion where WebDAV
> is involved -- including the case were Access is hitting the likes of a
> NetDrive mount or something
Ok, I'll rephrase that.
> -- which isn't likely to be true.
Albeit probably extremely slow seeing that databases do random access stuff?
Or, if NetDrive caches things, maybe not slow but just a very bad idea
in a multiuser environment. Hm.
> Upon review of the Appendix, though, I think the solution isn't to
> call out Access as being problematic, but to stop referring to
> Office as if it was a piece of software (it's a suite of software
> packages) and to explicitly call out Word, Excel, and Powerpoint as
> having WebDAV interoperability.
InfoPath, Publisher and Visio too.
And the small stuff like Picture Manager, Document Imaging, Snapshot Viewer...
Basically anything that uses the Open dialog that all Office
applications share - except for Access where it's been explicitly
disabled.
I think mentioning them all might be too verbose..
Thanks for the comments! :-).
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Re: Microsoft Access
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Oh man, where's my wife/editor when I need her? My response wasn't
verbose enough. Let me try again:
Molle, thanks for the patch. I think it's a bit verbose, and
there's no need to make guesses about the reasoning behind any of
Microsoft's decisions. Also, to claim that Microsoft Access is
incompatible with WebDAV implies that you cannot use Access in any
fashion where WebDAV is involved -- including the case were Access
is hitting the likes of a NetDrive mount or something -- which
isn't likely to be true.
Upon review of the Appendix, though, I think the solution isn't to
call out Access as being problematic, but to stop referring to
Office as if it was a piece of software (it's a suite of software
packages) and to explicitly call out Word, Excel, and Powerpoint as
having WebDAV interoperability.
"C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net> writes:
> Too verbose, and too presumptuous. And aimed at the wrong community
> (book development happens at svnbook-dev@red-bean.com).
>
> Molle Bestefich <mo...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > The book says that Microsoft Office supports WebDAV. That's not
> > entirely true, only some components of Microsoft Office support it.
> >
> > Here's a patch for the book which mentions that WebDAV is disabled for
> > MS Access.
> >
> > Whatcha say? Too verbose or imprecise, or 's it OK? Yarrr.
> >
> >
> > Index: appb.xml
> > ===================================================================
> > --- appb.xml (revision 1676)
> > +++ appb.xml (working copy)
> > @@ -798,6 +798,10 @@
> > these programs, since OS X already provides such excellent
> > low-level filesystem support for WebDAV.</para>
> >
> > + <para>Microsoft Access is incompatible with WebDAV. WebDAV support
> > + has been explicitly disabled for this Office application
> > + by Microsoft, probably because of locking and latency
> > issues.</para>
> > +
> > </sect2>
> >
> > </sect1>
> >
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Re: Microsoft Access
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Too verbose, and too presumptuous. And aimed at the wrong community
(book development happens at svnbook-dev@red-bean.com).
Molle Bestefich <mo...@gmail.com> writes:
> The book says that Microsoft Office supports WebDAV. That's not
> entirely true, only some components of Microsoft Office support it.
>
> Here's a patch for the book which mentions that WebDAV is disabled for
> MS Access.
>
> Whatcha say? Too verbose or imprecise, or 's it OK? Yarrr.
>
>
> Index: appb.xml
> ===================================================================
> --- appb.xml (revision 1676)
> +++ appb.xml (working copy)
> @@ -798,6 +798,10 @@
> these programs, since OS X already provides such excellent
> low-level filesystem support for WebDAV.</para>
>
> + <para>Microsoft Access is incompatible with WebDAV. WebDAV support
> + has been explicitly disabled for this Office application
> + by Microsoft, probably because of locking and latency
> issues.</para>
> +
> </sect2>
>
> </sect1>
>
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