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[jira] Created: (IVY-748) Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps
distribution format
Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps distribution format
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Key: IVY-748
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-748
Project: Ivy
Issue Type: Task
Reporter: Xavier Hanin
Fix For: 2.0
Currently we package in bin-with-deps distribution all Ivy dependencies, including ant jar. But this doesn't make sense, people who want to use Ivy with Ant will first install Ant, then Ivy. So we should exclude ant jar from our bin-with-deps distributions format.
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[jira] Commented: (IVY-748) Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps
distribution format
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Matèrne commented on IVY-748:
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An "installer" would be fine: Ivy ;)
A "bootstrap" Ivy download without any dependency and working from commandline and a starter which asks for the dependency to load and then load them. Maybe some "profiles": command line - Ant - IvyDE - all
... the starter could also be a WebStart application ....
(just thinking loud ...)
> Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps distribution format
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> Key: IVY-748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-748
> Project: Ivy
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Xavier Hanin
> Fix For: 2.0
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> Currently we package in bin-with-deps distribution all Ivy dependencies, including ant jar. But this doesn't make sense, people who want to use Ivy with Ant will first install Ant, then Ivy. So we should exclude ant jar from our bin-with-deps distributions format.
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[jira] Assigned: (IVY-748) Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps
distribution format
Posted by "Xavier Hanin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Xavier Hanin reassigned IVY-748:
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Assignee: Xavier Hanin
> Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps distribution format
> ------------------------------------------------------
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> Key: IVY-748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-748
> Project: Ivy
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Xavier Hanin
> Assignee: Xavier Hanin
> Fix For: 2.0
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> Currently we package in bin-with-deps distribution all Ivy dependencies, including ant jar. But this doesn't make sense, people who want to use Ivy with Ant will first install Ant, then Ivy. So we should exclude ant jar from our bin-with-deps distributions format.
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[jira] Commented: (IVY-748) Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps
distribution format
Posted by "Xavier Hanin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Xavier Hanin commented on IVY-748:
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We have no dependency on Ant when using from command line, except if you want to use AntBuild triggers, which seems pretty obvious. But I agree we should put a note about that on the installation page. Maybe we could even improve the installation page with a list of optional dependencies (which are provided in bin-with-deps) and their usage.
> Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps distribution format
> ------------------------------------------------------
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> Key: IVY-748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-748
> Project: Ivy
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Xavier Hanin
> Fix For: 2.0
>
>
> Currently we package in bin-with-deps distribution all Ivy dependencies, including ant jar. But this doesn't make sense, people who want to use Ivy with Ant will first install Ant, then Ivy. So we should exclude ant jar from our bin-with-deps distributions format.
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[jira] Commented: (IVY-748) Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps
distribution format
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Matèrne commented on IVY-748:
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Dont forget the possibility to use Ivy just from the command line - so Ant is not installed.
* Is there a dependency on Ant in that context?
If you remove ant.jar you should have a clear note about that in the installation manual.
> Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps distribution format
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: IVY-748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-748
> Project: Ivy
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Xavier Hanin
> Fix For: 2.0
>
>
> Currently we package in bin-with-deps distribution all Ivy dependencies, including ant jar. But this doesn't make sense, people who want to use Ivy with Ant will first install Ant, then Ivy. So we should exclude ant jar from our bin-with-deps distributions format.
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[jira] Commented: (IVY-748) Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps
distribution format
Posted by "Xavier Hanin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Xavier Hanin commented on IVY-748:
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The bin distrib already use a pretty similar mechanism, just less user friendly: in the bin distrib we provide ivy.jar, and a build.xml using ivy.jar to download the dependencies described in the ivy.xml. This requires to have Ant installed as well.
But I like your idea of a webstart installer based on Ivy itself to download the dependencies required per profile.
> Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps distribution format
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: IVY-748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-748
> Project: Ivy
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Xavier Hanin
> Fix For: 2.0
>
>
> Currently we package in bin-with-deps distribution all Ivy dependencies, including ant jar. But this doesn't make sense, people who want to use Ivy with Ant will first install Ant, then Ivy. So we should exclude ant jar from our bin-with-deps distributions format.
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[jira] Closed: (IVY-748) Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps
distribution format
Posted by "Xavier Hanin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Xavier Hanin closed IVY-748.
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Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version/s: (was: 2.0)
2.0-RC1
> Exclude Ant jar from bin-with-deps distribution format
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: IVY-748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-748
> Project: Ivy
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Xavier Hanin
> Assignee: Xavier Hanin
> Fix For: 2.0-RC1
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> Currently we package in bin-with-deps distribution all Ivy dependencies, including ant jar. But this doesn't make sense, people who want to use Ivy with Ant will first install Ant, then Ivy. So we should exclude ant jar from our bin-with-deps distributions format.
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