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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by Jo...@aol.com on 2000/04/09 18:21:39 UTC
[newbie] diffs and cvs
I'll probably never be applying a lot of the diffs I see
here, but I have to wonder, what are they made for?
They only thing I know is they aren't made by diff for ed.
Oh, and is there a place in the Guide for "getting the latest
release from CVS," as is often recommended to mod_ers with
troubles?
-Josh
"I thought of a really great .sig last night. That's about
when I forgot it, too." --Josh Narins
Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Billy Donahue <bi...@billy.zone.xs2.net>.
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 JoshNarins@aol.com wrote:
> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:21:39 EDT
> From: JoshNarins@aol.com
> To: modperl@apache.org
> Subject: [newbie] diffs and cvs
>
> I'll probably never be applying a lot of the diffs I see
> here, but I have to wonder, what are they made for?
>
> They only thing I know is they aren't made by diff for ed.
They are unified diffs, made with
diff -u
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Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Ken Williams <ke...@forum.swarthmore.edu>.
sbekman@stason.org (Stas Bekman) wrote:
>It's much easier than starting with a real CVS server if you do that for
>the first time. But it worth the hassle, if you want to use open source
>software and live on the cutting edge.
For me it's more than that - even if you don't want to use the latest version
all the time (which can be a bad idea if things haven't been tested enough),
it's handy to be able to use the patching features, always know what changes
have already been made but not released, see change logs, and so on.
By far the easiest way to fix bugs and submit patches.
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Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Stas Bekman <sb...@stason.org>.
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> > > I'll probably never be applying a lot of the diffs I see
> > > here, but I have to wonder, what are they made for?
> > >
> > > They only thing I know is they aren't made by diff for ed.
> > >
> > > Oh, and is there a place in the Guide for "getting the latest
> > > release from CVS," as is often recommended to mod_ers with
> > > troubles?
> >
> > It's much easier than you might think it is. Every Apache project rolls a
> > new tgz of the cvs every 6 hours, you can grab the latest mod_perl CVS
> > snapshot from http://perl.apache.org/from-cvs/modperl-2.0/,
> ^^^
>
> I don't think that's the directory you want. Try just plain modperl/ -
> modperl-2.0/ is currently just Doug's TODO list for modperl-2.0.
Oops, thanks for the correction Matt!
I'm thinking about 2.0 all the time :)
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Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Matt Sergeant <ma...@sergeant.org>.
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
> > I'll probably never be applying a lot of the diffs I see
> > here, but I have to wonder, what are they made for?
> >
> > They only thing I know is they aren't made by diff for ed.
> >
> > Oh, and is there a place in the Guide for "getting the latest
> > release from CVS," as is often recommended to mod_ers with
> > troubles?
>
> It's much easier than you might think it is. Every Apache project rolls a
> new tgz of the cvs every 6 hours, you can grab the latest mod_perl CVS
> snapshot from http://perl.apache.org/from-cvs/modperl-2.0/,
^^^
I don't think that's the directory you want. Try just plain modperl/ -
modperl-2.0/ is currently just Doug's TODO list for modperl-2.0.
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Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Stas Bekman <sb...@stason.org>.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> [snapshots]
> > It's much easier than starting with a real CVS server if you do that for
> > the first time. But it worth the hassle, if you want to use open source
> > software and live on the cutting edge.
>
> but with the "real cvs" it's much easier to keep updated, put your own
> patches and test thingies into the source tree, make diffs to see what
> changed when something on your testserver stops working and so on.
Ask, you have misread my statement. I said when you do that for the first
time (meaning, when you need your server to work yesterday and the current
CVS version fixes the problem.
Trying to discourage using CVS is the last thing I'd think about. I think
I do more cvs commands per day than any other :)
> If you don't want all that, you probably don't want the unreleased
> version in the first place. (assuming Doug will start releasing a little
> more often now :-) )
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Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Doug MacEachern <do...@covalent.net>.
> If you don't want all that, you probably don't want the unreleased version
> in the first place. (assuming Doug will start releasing a little more
> often now :-) )
i thought i already start doing that :)
=item 1.22 - March 22, 2000
=item 1.21_03 - March 15, 2000
=item 1.21_02 - March 6, 2000
=item 1.21_01 - March 5, 2000
1.23 coming soon..
Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@valueclick.com>.
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
[snapshots]
> It's much easier than starting with a real CVS server if you do that for
> the first time. But it worth the hassle, if you want to use open source
> software and live on the cutting edge.
but with the "real cvs" it's much easier to keep updated, put your own
patches and test thingies into the source tree, make diffs to see what
changed when something on your testserver stops working and so on.
If you don't want all that, you probably don't want the unreleased version
in the first place. (assuming Doug will start releasing a little more
often now :-) )
- ask
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Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Stas Bekman <sb...@stason.org>.
> I'll probably never be applying a lot of the diffs I see
> here, but I have to wonder, what are they made for?
>
> They only thing I know is they aren't made by diff for ed.
>
> Oh, and is there a place in the Guide for "getting the latest
> release from CVS," as is often recommended to mod_ers with
> troubles?
It's much easier than you might think it is. Every Apache project rolls a
new tgz of the cvs every 6 hours, you can grab the latest mod_perl CVS
snapshot from http://perl.apache.org/from-cvs/modperl-2.0/,
all the mod_perl related projects from http://perl.apache.org/from-cvs
I'll update the Guide.
It's much easier than starting with a real CVS server if you do that for
the first time. But it worth the hassle, if you want to use open source
software and live on the cutting edge.
______________________________________________________________________
Stas Bekman | JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ | mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide/
mailto:stas@stason.org | http://perl.org http://stason.org/TULARC/
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Re: [newbie] diffs and cvs
Posted by Mark Imbriaco <ma...@pobox.com>.
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 JoshNarins@aol.com wrote:
> I'll probably never be applying a lot of the diffs I see
> here, but I have to wonder, what are they made for?
>
> They only thing I know is they aren't made by diff for ed.
They're for use with patch(1).
> Oh, and is there a place in the Guide for "getting the latest
> release from CVS," as is often recommended to mod_ers with
> troubles?
http://perl.apache.org/mod_perl_cvs.html
-Mark