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Posted to dev@karaf.apache.org by Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br> on 2013/12/23 02:34:00 UTC

Fwd: Clustered Web Console Installation

Any thoughts? Regards.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br>
Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Clustered Web Console Installation
To: user@karaf.apache.org


I'd think that the list to change is that of the first node, which
shouldn't be unexpectedly empty after the feature is installed. Regards.
On Dec 22, 2013 1:54 AM, "Fernando Ribeiro" <fe...@upic.com.br>
wrote:

> Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>
> I have successfully completed an installation of the web console in a
> shared instance and cluster group blacklisting the webconsole feature and
> disabling bundle sync (as advised) in both nodes.
>
> Regarding the bundle lists, I have verified that the list in the other
> nodes is different than the empty list in the node where the feature is
> installed (when bundle sync is enabled, of course), can you double check if
> that is the expected behavior?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Fernando Ribeiro <
> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br> wrote:
>
>> Humm, I guess the blacklists/whitelists are the same, but I will check
>> again and get back to you. Regards.
>>  On Dec 21, 2013 9:59 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Not necessary: cluster:bundle-list should be the same, bundle:list
>>> depends of the blacklist/whitelist.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 12/21/2013 12:11 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Allright, but the list should be the same in the two nodes, right?
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2013 3:22 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
>>>> <ma...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Fernando,
>>>>
>>>>     If you blacklist the webconsole feature, Cellar will block the
>>>>     feature:install and cluster:feature-install webconsole events.
>>>>     If you install locally feature:install and use bundle sync, the
>>>>     bundles will be sync. It's normal.
>>>>     By default, I disable the bundle sync (blacklist=* whitelist=none
>>>>     for the bundles).
>>>>
>>>>     Regards
>>>>     JB
>>>>
>>>>     On 12/21/2013 03:54 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>
>>>>         I am still thinking if the replication of the bundles to the
>>>>         second node
>>>>         is really an issue, and also that the fact that the bundle list
>>>>         in the
>>>>         two nodes isn't the same should be reported separately.
>>>>
>>>>         Let me know when you find the time to look into this with me.
>>>>
>>>>         Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>         <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>         <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>         <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>         <ma...@upic.com.br>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>              Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>
>>>>              I am getting an exception from Jetty when following these
>>>>         steps:
>>>>
>>>>              1- Create node1
>>>>              2- Install Cellar on node1
>>>>              3- Edit org.apache.karaf.cellar.__groups.cfg to blacklist
>>>> the
>>>>              webconsole feature
>>>>              4- Create node2
>>>>              5- Install Cellar on node2
>>>>
>>>>              The reason why I did mentioned "a list" in my previous
>>>>         e-mail is
>>>>              because I understand the issue could be worked around
>>>>         blacklisting
>>>>              the Jetty bundles, for example.
>>>>
>>>>              The log files are attached for your review, as well as the
>>>>         list of
>>>>              bundles in node2, which is very different than the empty
>>>>         list in node1.
>>>>
>>>>              Please advise me whether I should open a ticket.
>>>>
>>>>              Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>              On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>              <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>         <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>         <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>         <ma...@upic.com.br>>>
>>>>              wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                  Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>
>>>>                  I have the impression that you actually need to
>>>>         blacklist some
>>>>                  bundles as well, will re-do the installation and come
>>>>         back with
>>>>                  more detailed information.
>>>>
>>>>                  Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                  On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>                  <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>         <mailto:jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                      Hi Fernando,
>>>>
>>>>                      you mean install the WebConsole only on one node ?
>>>>
>>>>                      If so, you can blacklist webconsole feature
>>>> inbound and
>>>>                      outbound and install on the target node.
>>>>
>>>>                      Regards
>>>>                      JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                      On 12/19/2013 05:24 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                          All,
>>>>
>>>>                          After some investigation, I've managed to
>>>>         install the
>>>>                          web console in a
>>>>                          Cellar installation using a dedicated instance
>>>> in a
>>>>                          different cluster group.
>>>>
>>>>                          I understand that I could use a shared instance
>>>>         in a
>>>>                          single cluster
>>>>                          group if I blacklisted some features and
>>>>         bundles, but
>>>>                          don't have that
>>>>                          list yet - do you?
>>>>
>>>>                          Regards,
>>>>
>>>>                          --
>>>>                          Fernando
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                      --
>>>>                      Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>         jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>         <mailto:jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>         http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>                      Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                  --
>>>>                  Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>                  Upic
>>>>         +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>         <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>              --
>>>>              Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>              Upic
>>>>         +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>         <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         --
>>>>         Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>>     Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>     jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>     http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>     Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Fernando Ribeiro
>



-- 
Fernando Ribeiro

Re: Fwd: Clustered Web Console Installation

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks, I gonna take a look.

Regards
JB

On 12/23/2013 04:20 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
> As discussed in private, the issue is reported at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-2653. Regards.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Fernando Ribeiro <
> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br> wrote:
>
>> Of course, sending you an email right now. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Fernando,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I follow you.
>>>
>>> In Cellar, if sync is enabled, at startup, a Synchronizer is called.
>>> The synchronizer:
>>> 1/ gets the resources (bundles for instance) from the cluster, compare
>>> the state on the cluster with the state on the node, and update the state
>>> on the node.
>>> 2/ push the local resources states to the bundles.
>>>
>>> You have a synchronizer for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.
>>>
>>> After that that, Cellar have a set of listener that listen for local
>>> events (bundle install, features install, etc) and broadcast this local
>>> event as cluster event.
>>>
>>> You have a listener for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.
>>>
>>> Bundles and features are completely isolated: if you blacklist all
>>> bundles, you can still install features on the cluster, the bundles list
>>> will remain empty.
>>>
>>> Could you share (directly with me in private e-mail) your scenario ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/23/2013 02:34 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any thoughts? Regards.
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br>
>>>> Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Clustered Web Console Installation
>>>> To: user@karaf.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd think that the list to change is that of the first node, which
>>>> shouldn't be unexpectedly empty after the feature is installed. Regards.
>>>> On Dec 22, 2013 1:54 AM, "Fernando Ribeiro" <
>>>> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have successfully completed an installation of the web console in a
>>>>> shared instance and cluster group blacklisting the webconsole feature
>>>>> and
>>>>> disabling bundle sync (as advised) in both nodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the bundle lists, I have verified that the list in the other
>>>>> nodes is different than the empty list in the node where the feature is
>>>>> installed (when bundle sync is enabled, of course), can you double
>>>>> check if
>>>>> that is the expected behavior?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Fernando Ribeiro <
>>>>> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Humm, I guess the blacklists/whitelists are the same, but I will check
>>>>>> again and get back to you. Regards.
>>>>>>    On Dec 21, 2013 9:59 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Not necessary: cluster:bundle-list should be the same, bundle:list
>>>>>>> depends of the blacklist/whitelist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/21/2013 12:11 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Allright, but the list should be the same in the two nodes, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2013 3:22 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>> <ma...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Hi Fernando,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       If you blacklist the webconsole feature, Cellar will block the
>>>>>>>>       feature:install and cluster:feature-install webconsole events.
>>>>>>>>       If you install locally feature:install and use bundle sync, the
>>>>>>>>       bundles will be sync. It's normal.
>>>>>>>>       By default, I disable the bundle sync (blacklist=*
>>>>>>>> whitelist=none
>>>>>>>>       for the bundles).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Regards
>>>>>>>>       JB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       On 12/21/2013 03:54 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           I am still thinking if the replication of the bundles to the
>>>>>>>>           second node
>>>>>>>>           is really an issue, and also that the fact that the bundle
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>           in the
>>>>>>>>           two nodes isn't the same should be reported separately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           Let me know when you find the time to look into this with
>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>           <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>>>>           <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>>>>           <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>>>>           <ma...@upic.com.br>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                I am getting an exception from Jetty when following
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>           steps:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                1- Create node1
>>>>>>>>                2- Install Cellar on node1
>>>>>>>>                3- Edit org.apache.karaf.cellar.__groups.cfg to
>>>>>>>> blacklist
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>                webconsole feature
>>>>>>>>                4- Create node2
>>>>>>>>                5- Install Cellar on node2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                The reason why I did mentioned "a list" in my previous
>>>>>>>>           e-mail is
>>>>>>>>                because I understand the issue could be worked around
>>>>>>>>           blacklisting
>>>>>>>>                the Jetty bundles, for example.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                The log files are attached for your review, as well as
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>           list of
>>>>>>>>                bundles in node2, which is very different than the
>>>>>>>> empty
>>>>>>>>           list in node1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                Please advise me whether I should open a ticket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>                <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>>>>           <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>>>>           <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>>>>           <ma...@upic.com.br>>>
>>>>>>>>                wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    I have the impression that you actually need to
>>>>>>>>           blacklist some
>>>>>>>>                    bundles as well, will re-do the installation and
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>           back with
>>>>>>>>                    more detailed information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>> Onofré
>>>>>>>>                    <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>           <mailto:jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                        Hi Fernando,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                        you mean install the WebConsole only on one
>>>>>>>> node ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                        If so, you can blacklist webconsole feature
>>>>>>>> inbound and
>>>>>>>>                        outbound and install on the target node.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                        Regards
>>>>>>>>                        JB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                        On 12/19/2013 05:24 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                            All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                            After some investigation, I've managed to
>>>>>>>>           install the
>>>>>>>>                            web console in a
>>>>>>>>                            Cellar installation using a dedicated
>>>>>>>> instance
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>                            different cluster group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                            I understand that I could use a shared
>>>>>>>> instance
>>>>>>>>           in a
>>>>>>>>                            single cluster
>>>>>>>>                            group if I blacklisted some features and
>>>>>>>>           bundles, but
>>>>>>>>                            don't have that
>>>>>>>>                            list yet - do you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                            Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                            --
>>>>>>>>                            Fernando
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                        --
>>>>>>>>                        Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>           jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>           <mailto:jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>           http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>                        Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    --
>>>>>>>>                    Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>                    Upic
>>>>>>>>           +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>>>>           <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                --
>>>>>>>>                Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>                Upic
>>>>>>>>           +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>>>>           <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           --
>>>>>>>>           Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       --
>>>>>>>>       Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>       jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>       http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>       Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   --
>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fernando Ribeiro
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: Fwd: Clustered Web Console Installation

Posted by Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br>.
As discussed in private, the issue is reported at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-2653. Regards.


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Fernando Ribeiro <
fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br> wrote:

> Of course, sending you an email right now. Thanks.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi Fernando,
>>
>> I'm not sure I follow you.
>>
>> In Cellar, if sync is enabled, at startup, a Synchronizer is called.
>> The synchronizer:
>> 1/ gets the resources (bundles for instance) from the cluster, compare
>> the state on the cluster with the state on the node, and update the state
>> on the node.
>> 2/ push the local resources states to the bundles.
>>
>> You have a synchronizer for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.
>>
>> After that that, Cellar have a set of listener that listen for local
>> events (bundle install, features install, etc) and broadcast this local
>> event as cluster event.
>>
>> You have a listener for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.
>>
>> Bundles and features are completely isolated: if you blacklist all
>> bundles, you can still install features on the cluster, the bundles list
>> will remain empty.
>>
>> Could you share (directly with me in private e-mail) your scenario ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 12/23/2013 02:34 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>
>>> Any thoughts? Regards.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br>
>>> Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Clustered Web Console Installation
>>> To: user@karaf.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd think that the list to change is that of the first node, which
>>> shouldn't be unexpectedly empty after the feature is installed. Regards.
>>> On Dec 22, 2013 1:54 AM, "Fernando Ribeiro" <
>>> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>
>>>> I have successfully completed an installation of the web console in a
>>>> shared instance and cluster group blacklisting the webconsole feature
>>>> and
>>>> disabling bundle sync (as advised) in both nodes.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the bundle lists, I have verified that the list in the other
>>>> nodes is different than the empty list in the node where the feature is
>>>> installed (when bundle sync is enabled, of course), can you double
>>>> check if
>>>> that is the expected behavior?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Fernando Ribeiro <
>>>> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Humm, I guess the blacklists/whitelists are the same, but I will check
>>>>> again and get back to you. Regards.
>>>>>   On Dec 21, 2013 9:59 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Not necessary: cluster:bundle-list should be the same, bundle:list
>>>>>> depends of the blacklist/whitelist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/21/2013 12:11 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Allright, but the list should be the same in the two nodes, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2013 3:22 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
>>>>>>> <ma...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Hi Fernando,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      If you blacklist the webconsole feature, Cellar will block the
>>>>>>>      feature:install and cluster:feature-install webconsole events.
>>>>>>>      If you install locally feature:install and use bundle sync, the
>>>>>>>      bundles will be sync. It's normal.
>>>>>>>      By default, I disable the bundle sync (blacklist=*
>>>>>>> whitelist=none
>>>>>>>      for the bundles).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Regards
>>>>>>>      JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      On 12/21/2013 03:54 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          I am still thinking if the replication of the bundles to the
>>>>>>>          second node
>>>>>>>          is really an issue, and also that the fact that the bundle
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>          in the
>>>>>>>          two nodes isn't the same should be reported separately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          Let me know when you find the time to look into this with
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>          <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>>>          <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               I am getting an exception from Jetty when following
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>          steps:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               1- Create node1
>>>>>>>               2- Install Cellar on node1
>>>>>>>               3- Edit org.apache.karaf.cellar.__groups.cfg to
>>>>>>> blacklist
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>               webconsole feature
>>>>>>>               4- Create node2
>>>>>>>               5- Install Cellar on node2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               The reason why I did mentioned "a list" in my previous
>>>>>>>          e-mail is
>>>>>>>               because I understand the issue could be worked around
>>>>>>>          blacklisting
>>>>>>>               the Jetty bundles, for example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               The log files are attached for your review, as well as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>          list of
>>>>>>>               bundles in node2, which is very different than the
>>>>>>> empty
>>>>>>>          list in node1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               Please advise me whether I should open a ticket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>               <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>>>          <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>>>
>>>>>>>               wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   I have the impression that you actually need to
>>>>>>>          blacklist some
>>>>>>>                   bundles as well, will re-do the installation and
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>          back with
>>>>>>>                   more detailed information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>> Onofré
>>>>>>>                   <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>          <mailto:jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                       Hi Fernando,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                       you mean install the WebConsole only on one
>>>>>>> node ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                       If so, you can blacklist webconsole feature
>>>>>>> inbound and
>>>>>>>                       outbound and install on the target node.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                       Regards
>>>>>>>                       JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                       On 12/19/2013 05:24 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                           All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                           After some investigation, I've managed to
>>>>>>>          install the
>>>>>>>                           web console in a
>>>>>>>                           Cellar installation using a dedicated
>>>>>>> instance
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>                           different cluster group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                           I understand that I could use a shared
>>>>>>> instance
>>>>>>>          in a
>>>>>>>                           single cluster
>>>>>>>                           group if I blacklisted some features and
>>>>>>>          bundles, but
>>>>>>>                           don't have that
>>>>>>>                           list yet - do you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                           Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                           --
>>>>>>>                           Fernando
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                       --
>>>>>>>                       Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>          jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>          <mailto:jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>          http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>                       Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   --
>>>>>>>                   Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>                   Upic
>>>>>>>          +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>>>          <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               --
>>>>>>>               Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>               Upic
>>>>>>>          +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>>>          <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          --
>>>>>>>          Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      --
>>>>>>>      Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>      jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>      http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>      Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Fernando Ribeiro
>



-- 
Fernando Ribeiro

Re: Fwd: Clustered Web Console Installation

Posted by Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br>.
Of course, sending you an email right now. Thanks.


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>wrote:

> Hi Fernando,
>
> I'm not sure I follow you.
>
> In Cellar, if sync is enabled, at startup, a Synchronizer is called.
> The synchronizer:
> 1/ gets the resources (bundles for instance) from the cluster, compare the
> state on the cluster with the state on the node, and update the state on
> the node.
> 2/ push the local resources states to the bundles.
>
> You have a synchronizer for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.
>
> After that that, Cellar have a set of listener that listen for local
> events (bundle install, features install, etc) and broadcast this local
> event as cluster event.
>
> You have a listener for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.
>
> Bundles and features are completely isolated: if you blacklist all
> bundles, you can still install features on the cluster, the bundles list
> will remain empty.
>
> Could you share (directly with me in private e-mail) your scenario ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 12/23/2013 02:34 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>
>> Any thoughts? Regards.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br>
>> Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: Clustered Web Console Installation
>> To: user@karaf.apache.org
>>
>>
>> I'd think that the list to change is that of the first node, which
>> shouldn't be unexpectedly empty after the feature is installed. Regards.
>> On Dec 22, 2013 1:54 AM, "Fernando Ribeiro" <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>
>>> I have successfully completed an installation of the web console in a
>>> shared instance and cluster group blacklisting the webconsole feature and
>>> disabling bundle sync (as advised) in both nodes.
>>>
>>> Regarding the bundle lists, I have verified that the list in the other
>>> nodes is different than the empty list in the node where the feature is
>>> installed (when bundle sync is enabled, of course), can you double check
>>> if
>>> that is the expected behavior?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Fernando Ribeiro <
>>> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Humm, I guess the blacklists/whitelists are the same, but I will check
>>>> again and get back to you. Regards.
>>>>   On Dec 21, 2013 9:59 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Not necessary: cluster:bundle-list should be the same, bundle:list
>>>>> depends of the blacklist/whitelist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/21/2013 12:11 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Allright, but the list should be the same in the two nodes, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2013 3:22 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
>>>>>> <ma...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Hi Fernando,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      If you blacklist the webconsole feature, Cellar will block the
>>>>>>      feature:install and cluster:feature-install webconsole events.
>>>>>>      If you install locally feature:install and use bundle sync, the
>>>>>>      bundles will be sync. It's normal.
>>>>>>      By default, I disable the bundle sync (blacklist=* whitelist=none
>>>>>>      for the bundles).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Regards
>>>>>>      JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      On 12/21/2013 03:54 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          I am still thinking if the replication of the bundles to the
>>>>>>          second node
>>>>>>          is really an issue, and also that the fact that the bundle
>>>>>> list
>>>>>>          in the
>>>>>>          two nodes isn't the same should be reported separately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          Let me know when you find the time to look into this with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>          <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>>          <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               I am getting an exception from Jetty when following
>>>>>> these
>>>>>>          steps:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               1- Create node1
>>>>>>               2- Install Cellar on node1
>>>>>>               3- Edit org.apache.karaf.cellar.__groups.cfg to
>>>>>> blacklist
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>               webconsole feature
>>>>>>               4- Create node2
>>>>>>               5- Install Cellar on node2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               The reason why I did mentioned "a list" in my previous
>>>>>>          e-mail is
>>>>>>               because I understand the issue could be worked around
>>>>>>          blacklisting
>>>>>>               the Jetty bundles, for example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               The log files are attached for your review, as well as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>          list of
>>>>>>               bundles in node2, which is very different than the empty
>>>>>>          list in node1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               Please advise me whether I should open a ticket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>               <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>>          <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>>>
>>>>>>               wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   I have the impression that you actually need to
>>>>>>          blacklist some
>>>>>>                   bundles as well, will re-do the installation and
>>>>>> come
>>>>>>          back with
>>>>>>                   more detailed information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>> Onofré
>>>>>>                   <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>          <mailto:jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                       Hi Fernando,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                       you mean install the WebConsole only on one
>>>>>> node ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                       If so, you can blacklist webconsole feature
>>>>>> inbound and
>>>>>>                       outbound and install on the target node.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                       Regards
>>>>>>                       JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                       On 12/19/2013 05:24 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                           All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                           After some investigation, I've managed to
>>>>>>          install the
>>>>>>                           web console in a
>>>>>>                           Cellar installation using a dedicated
>>>>>> instance
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>                           different cluster group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                           I understand that I could use a shared
>>>>>> instance
>>>>>>          in a
>>>>>>                           single cluster
>>>>>>                           group if I blacklisted some features and
>>>>>>          bundles, but
>>>>>>                           don't have that
>>>>>>                           list yet - do you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                           Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                           --
>>>>>>                           Fernando
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                       --
>>>>>>                       Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>          jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>          <mailto:jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>          http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>                       Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   --
>>>>>>                   Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>                   Upic
>>>>>>          +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>>          <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               --
>>>>>>               Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>               Upic
>>>>>>          +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>>          <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          --
>>>>>>          Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      --
>>>>>>      Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>      jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>      http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>      Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fernando Ribeiro
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>



-- 
Fernando Ribeiro

Re: Fwd: Clustered Web Console Installation

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Fernando,

I'm not sure I follow you.

In Cellar, if sync is enabled, at startup, a Synchronizer is called.
The synchronizer:
1/ gets the resources (bundles for instance) from the cluster, compare 
the state on the cluster with the state on the node, and update the 
state on the node.
2/ push the local resources states to the bundles.

You have a synchronizer for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.

After that that, Cellar have a set of listener that listen for local 
events (bundle install, features install, etc) and broadcast this local 
event as cluster event.

You have a listener for bundle, one for features, one for config, etc.

Bundles and features are completely isolated: if you blacklist all 
bundles, you can still install features on the cluster, the bundles list 
will remain empty.

Could you share (directly with me in private e-mail) your scenario ?

Regards
JB

On 12/23/2013 02:34 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
> Any thoughts? Regards.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Fernando Ribeiro <fe...@upic.com.br>
> Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Clustered Web Console Installation
> To: user@karaf.apache.org
>
>
> I'd think that the list to change is that of the first node, which
> shouldn't be unexpectedly empty after the feature is installed. Regards.
> On Dec 22, 2013 1:54 AM, "Fernando Ribeiro" <fe...@upic.com.br>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>
>> I have successfully completed an installation of the web console in a
>> shared instance and cluster group blacklisting the webconsole feature and
>> disabling bundle sync (as advised) in both nodes.
>>
>> Regarding the bundle lists, I have verified that the list in the other
>> nodes is different than the empty list in the node where the feature is
>> installed (when bundle sync is enabled, of course), can you double check if
>> that is the expected behavior?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Fernando Ribeiro <
>> fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br> wrote:
>>
>>> Humm, I guess the blacklists/whitelists are the same, but I will check
>>> again and get back to you. Regards.
>>>   On Dec 21, 2013 9:59 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not necessary: cluster:bundle-list should be the same, bundle:list
>>>> depends of the blacklist/whitelist.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 12/21/2013 12:11 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Allright, but the list should be the same in the two nodes, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2013 3:22 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
>>>>> <ma...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Hi Fernando,
>>>>>
>>>>>      If you blacklist the webconsole feature, Cellar will block the
>>>>>      feature:install and cluster:feature-install webconsole events.
>>>>>      If you install locally feature:install and use bundle sync, the
>>>>>      bundles will be sync. It's normal.
>>>>>      By default, I disable the bundle sync (blacklist=* whitelist=none
>>>>>      for the bundles).
>>>>>
>>>>>      Regards
>>>>>      JB
>>>>>
>>>>>      On 12/21/2013 03:54 AM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>
>>>>>          I am still thinking if the replication of the bundles to the
>>>>>          second node
>>>>>          is really an issue, and also that the fact that the bundle list
>>>>>          in the
>>>>>          two nodes isn't the same should be reported separately.
>>>>>
>>>>>          Let me know when you find the time to look into this with me.
>>>>>
>>>>>          Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>          <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>          <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>               Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>
>>>>>               I am getting an exception from Jetty when following these
>>>>>          steps:
>>>>>
>>>>>               1- Create node1
>>>>>               2- Install Cellar on node1
>>>>>               3- Edit org.apache.karaf.cellar.__groups.cfg to blacklist
>>>>> the
>>>>>               webconsole feature
>>>>>               4- Create node2
>>>>>               5- Install Cellar on node2
>>>>>
>>>>>               The reason why I did mentioned "a list" in my previous
>>>>>          e-mail is
>>>>>               because I understand the issue could be worked around
>>>>>          blacklisting
>>>>>               the Jetty bundles, for example.
>>>>>
>>>>>               The log files are attached for your review, as well as the
>>>>>          list of
>>>>>               bundles in node2, which is very different than the empty
>>>>>          list in node1.
>>>>>
>>>>>               Please advise me whether I should open a ticket.
>>>>>
>>>>>               Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>               On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>               <fernando.ribeiro@upic.com.br
>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>
>>>>>          <mailto:fernando.ribeiro@upic.__com.br
>>>>>          <ma...@upic.com.br>>>
>>>>>               wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                   Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>
>>>>>                   I have the impression that you actually need to
>>>>>          blacklist some
>>>>>                   bundles as well, will re-do the installation and come
>>>>>          back with
>>>>>                   more detailed information.
>>>>>
>>>>>                   Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                   On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>                   <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>          <mailto:jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                       Hi Fernando,
>>>>>
>>>>>                       you mean install the WebConsole only on one node ?
>>>>>
>>>>>                       If so, you can blacklist webconsole feature
>>>>> inbound and
>>>>>                       outbound and install on the target node.
>>>>>
>>>>>                       Regards
>>>>>                       JB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                       On 12/19/2013 05:24 PM, Fernando Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                           All,
>>>>>
>>>>>                           After some investigation, I've managed to
>>>>>          install the
>>>>>                           web console in a
>>>>>                           Cellar installation using a dedicated instance
>>>>> in a
>>>>>                           different cluster group.
>>>>>
>>>>>                           I understand that I could use a shared instance
>>>>>          in a
>>>>>                           single cluster
>>>>>                           group if I blacklisted some features and
>>>>>          bundles, but
>>>>>                           don't have that
>>>>>                           list yet - do you?
>>>>>
>>>>>                           Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>                           --
>>>>>                           Fernando
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                       --
>>>>>                       Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>          jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>          <mailto:jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>          http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>                       Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                   --
>>>>>                   Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>                   Upic
>>>>>          +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>          <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>               --
>>>>>               Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>               Upic
>>>>>          +55 11 9 8111 4078 <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%204078>
>>>>>          <tel:%2B55%2011%209%208111%__204078>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          --
>>>>>          Fernando Ribeiro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      --
>>>>>      Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>      jbonofre@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>      http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>      Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fernando Ribeiro
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com