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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by "Gav...." <br...@brightontown.com.au> on 2007/07/04 01:01:02 UTC
RE: [jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD area inside Table of Contents
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Crossley [mailto:crossley@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2007 9:26 AM
> To: dev@forrest.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD
> area inside Table of Contents
>
> Gav.... wrote:
> > From: David Crossley:
> > > Gav.... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, so 550036 has moved MOTD to the left and removed relative
> > > positioning.
> > > >
> > > > It looks much better than it did and does not overlap content.
> > > >
> > > > Where it was floated right, it caused all sorts of issues, not
> easily
> > > > fixed due to the fact that MOTD and/or surrounding content divs and
> > > classes
> > > > could be optionally added/removed at any time. There is as far as I
> can
> > > see
> > > > no good all round fix for this, taking browser sizes, browser
> versions
> > > and
> > > > screen resolutions into account. The current fix works fine for all
> > > those
> > > > but may not 'look' as good as if it were prevalent on the right
> side.
> > >
> > > It is a shame. The original right-hand position was also
> > > trying to utilise the whitespace at the right of the
> > > Table Of Contents (ToC). Option #1 has even more wasted space.
> >
> > Agree
> >
> > > > I do have one idea to improve the look and keep it where it is on
> the
> > > > left, hopefully being an agreed final fix for this MOTD position.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to propose that we create a new MOTD class in the same
> > > > style as .note, .warning and .fixme. We'll give it a unique color
> from
> > > > the rest but will be displayed in exactly the same way, from the
> left
> > > going
> > > > as far across the screen as necessary, with a title section and
> content
> > > > section the same as .note etc.
> > > >
> > > > We can call it .information with 'Information' being the default
> label
> > > for
> > > > the top part which can be over-ridden with your own label, the MOTD
> on
> > > the
> > > > current forrest index page would instead use this with a label of
> > > 'Latest
> > > > release 0.8', the content area then having '18 April 2007 Forrest-
> 0.8
> > > > released: Features the Locationmap. (More)'
> > >
> > > There is no configuration for the "label" attribute.
> >
> > Sorry, mistake I meant :-
> >
> > <div class="note">
> > <div class="label">latest 0.8 release</div>
> > <div class="content">'18 April 2007 Forrest-0.8
> > released: Features the Locationmap. (More)
> > </div>
> > </div>
> >
> > but don't worry about it now ...
>
> No that is not what i meant. There is no
> configuration in skinconf.xml for "motd label".
> It is only a snippet of text, so it needs to be
> kept simple.
>
> > > Perhaps just use a concise box with slightly bigger
> > > border on all sides, using the existing colours.
> >
> > Ok, no problem.
> >
> > > > I'll do a mock up in a test-sample site and attach the graphic to
> this
> > > issue
> > > > if you like but I'm sure you know what I mean.
> > > >
> > > > So we have choices :-
> > > >
> > > > 1. Keep it as I have changed it to currently - to the left and still
> the
> > > > traditional MOTD.
> > >
> > > It wasn't a "traditional look". It was just a hack to fix
> > > the docs during the 0.7 release. No effort was spent on
> > > the look. I would prefer it to be more prominent CSS emphasis.
> > >
> > > > 2. Create a new version of MOTD in the style of .note etc -- still
> > > keeping
> > > > the same way that we apply the MOTD, just the style changes.
> > >
> > > I reckon that it would be too bulky and not stand
> > > out sufficiently.
> > >
> > > > 3. Revert and try something else, but it will be difficult to get it
> > > right
> > > > and keep it right for all scenarios. The above two will work in all
> > > > scenarios.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Something else.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts ?
> > >
> > > Remember that these MOTD notes are intended to be
> > > very short. The content needs to also be able to
> > > fit into the bottom of the left-hand panel.
> > >
> > > We are already utilising the space to the right
> > > of the Title for Font Size and alternate formats,
> > > so cannot put it there.
> > >
> > > There are a number of pieces of "top matter".
> > > a) Title and its right-hand friends seem fine as-is.
> > > b) Optional header/abstract is shown above the ToC.
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to have a div for this second set?
> > > Then perhaps include the "motd" to the right-hand side.
> > > It should then collapse gracefully if those two
> > > pieces of content are missing. FLW.
> > >
> > > This is probably how i should have done it to
> > > start with, but was in a rush at the time.
> >
> > Ok, so enclose #MOTD and .abstract into a new div holding area.
> >
> > .abstract left and #motd floated right, if either one is missing
> > make sure the other still holds its place. If both are missing
> > the container div will collapse.
> >
> > Sounds like a plan.
>
> Actually i meant to include the Table of Contents too.
>
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> | +-----------------------------+-------------+ |
> | | | Right Panel | |
> | | header/abstract | | |
> | | | | |
> | +-----------------------------+ | |
> | | | | |
> | | Generated ToC | | |
> | | | | |
> | | | | |
> | +-----------------------------+-------------+ |
> +-----------------------------------------------+
>
> In the "Right Panel" would go the MOTD.
> Perhaps later other things could go there too.
What would be the consequences of moving header/abstract into <body> ?
I am trying to re-organise header/abstract + MOTD + ToC into a container
div, but is a little difficult when some of the content/structure comes from
site-to-xhtml.xsl and some come from document-to-html.xsl and the 2nd refers
to the 1st !!
If I move header/abstract into the <body> then it all works fine and I have
my master container div for these sections. CSS then makes it how we want.
I will have to rethink another strategy if I can not move the above though.
I will expand on the exact problem later, off to work.
Gav...
>
> This is easier with the Dispatcher of course.
>
> -David
>
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Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD
area inside Table of Contents
Posted by "Gav..." <br...@brightontown.com.au>.
<quote who="David Crossley">
> David Crossley wrote:
>> Gav.... wrote:
>> >
>> > I am trying to re-organise header/abstract + MOTD + ToC into a
>> container
>> > div, but is a little difficult when some of the content/structure
>> comes from
>> > site-to-xhtml.xsl and some come from document-to-html.xsl and the 2nd
>> refers
>> > to the 1st !!
>>
>> I will try to help with this later next week.
>> Off now for a long weekend.
>
> I have a new structure now by adding a "div id=front-matter"
> and using a similar trick to the empty div for
> "skinconf-toc-page" in document-to-html.xsl.
>
> Not yet figured out the CSS. However, i ran out of time
> today so will try again late next week.
Good stuff, if you want you can attach or send what you got and I can work
on CSS this weekend.
Gav...
>
> -David
>
--
Gav...
Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD area inside Table of Contents
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
David Crossley wrote:
> Gav.... wrote:
> >
> > I am trying to re-organise header/abstract + MOTD + ToC into a container
> > div, but is a little difficult when some of the content/structure comes from
> > site-to-xhtml.xsl and some come from document-to-html.xsl and the 2nd refers
> > to the 1st !!
>
> I will try to help with this later next week.
> Off now for a long weekend.
I have a new structure now by adding a "div id=front-matter"
and using a similar trick to the empty div for
"skinconf-toc-page" in document-to-html.xsl.
Not yet figured out the CSS. However, i ran out of time
today so will try again late next week.
-David
Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD area inside Table of Contents
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Gav.... wrote:
>
> What would be the consequences of moving header/abstract into <body> ?
>
> I am trying to re-organise header/abstract + MOTD + ToC into a container
> div, but is a little difficult when some of the content/structure comes from
> site-to-xhtml.xsl and some come from document-to-html.xsl and the 2nd refers
> to the 1st !!
>
> If I move header/abstract into the <body> then it all works fine and I have
> my master container div for these sections. CSS then makes it how we want.
>
> I will have to rethink another strategy if I can not move the above though.
>
> I will expand on the exact problem later, off to work.
I will try to help with this later next week.
Off now for a long weekend.
-David