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Posted to dev@poi.apache.org by Michael Zalewski <za...@optonline.net> on 2003/08/09 01:04:29 UTC
RE: (re)branding... Re: cvs
commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
I like 'hacked' and I like 'humble'
Since this is for marketing types, I propose 'happy' :)
Michael Zalewski
-----Original Message-----
From: Rainer Klute [mailto:klute@rainer-klute.de]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:10 PM
To: POI Developers List; Ryan Ackley
Cc: Rainer Klute
Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
Hm, still not "professional". I think I'll browse my Oxford Dictionary.
"Ryan Ackley" <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
>I like it
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Serge Huber" <sh...@jahia.com>
>To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:02 AM
>Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
>commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
>
>
>
>How about "Hacked" ?
>
>cheers,
> Serge...
>
>At 02:29 PM 8/8/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>> > Humble .. *IMHO* ;-)
>>
>>"Holistic" - doesn't mean anything but sounds, er, professional.
>>
>>Best regards
>>Rainer Klute
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Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
Posted by Serge Huber2 <sh...@jahia.com>.
At 09:45 09.08.2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Okay guys, lets work on things we can agree on like porting file formats.
>These discussions (What to name it) go nowhere. They have no logical
>conclusion and just start pitting people against each other.
+1 (although I don't have voting rights :)). Sorry for participating in the
mess.
Regards,
Serge Huber.
>-Andy
>
>On 8/9/03 3:31 AM, "Ryan Ackley" <sa...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I think coming up with a new adjective that starts with 'H' is extremely
> > silly. Its taking our marketing to a new low. I don't think we are on the
> > lips of non-technical people. They don't discuss using us during happy
> hour.
> > Conversations go more like this... "What's that geek Bob using to meet our
> > deadline again? Apache something or other." Worst case they use the acronym
> > "POI". When HSSF is brought up in a meetings people aren't like "We are
> > using the Horrible Spreadsheet Format Library" or "The Horrible Spreadsheet
> > Format API is helping us meet our requirements". They use the acronym
> > instead and its probably forgotten 7 milliseconds later. Most
> > marketing/manager types only care that they have a task/requirement that is
> > met.
> >
> > Another objection is based on principle. I already have to sacrifice my
> > sense of humor at work when it comes to stuff like this. Why do it for
> > something most of us work on in our spare time. We shouldn't take ourselves
> > so seriously that we lose a sense of humor.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Zalewski" <za...@optonline.net>
> > To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:04 PM
> > Subject: RE: (re)branding... Re: cvs
> > commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
> >
> >
> >> I like 'hacked' and I like 'humble'
> >>
> >> Since this is for marketing types, I propose 'happy' :)
> >>
> >> Michael Zalewski
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rainer Klute [mailto:klute@rainer-klute.de]
> >> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:10 PM
> >> To: POI Developers List; Ryan Ackley
> >> Cc: Rainer Klute
> >> Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
> >> commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
> >>
> >> Hm, still not "professional". I think I'll browse my Oxford Dictionary.
> >>
> >> "Ryan Ackley" <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> I like it
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Serge Huber" <sh...@jahia.com>
> >>> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:02 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
> >>> commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How about "Hacked" ?
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>> Serge...
> >>>
> >>> At 02:29 PM 8/8/2003 +0200, you wrote:
> >>>>> Humble .. *IMHO* ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> "Holistic" - doesn't mean anything but sounds, er, professional.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards
> >>>> Rainer Klute
> >>
> >>
> >>
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>
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Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Okay guys, lets work on things we can agree on like porting file formats.
These discussions (What to name it) go nowhere. They have no logical
conclusion and just start pitting people against each other.
-Andy
On 8/9/03 3:31 AM, "Ryan Ackley" <sa...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> I think coming up with a new adjective that starts with 'H' is extremely
> silly. Its taking our marketing to a new low. I don't think we are on the
> lips of non-technical people. They don't discuss using us during happy hour.
> Conversations go more like this... "What's that geek Bob using to meet our
> deadline again? Apache something or other." Worst case they use the acronym
> "POI". When HSSF is brought up in a meetings people aren't like "We are
> using the Horrible Spreadsheet Format Library" or "The Horrible Spreadsheet
> Format API is helping us meet our requirements". They use the acronym
> instead and its probably forgotten 7 milliseconds later. Most
> marketing/manager types only care that they have a task/requirement that is
> met.
>
> Another objection is based on principle. I already have to sacrifice my
> sense of humor at work when it comes to stuff like this. Why do it for
> something most of us work on in our spare time. We shouldn't take ourselves
> so seriously that we lose a sense of humor.
>
> Ryan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Zalewski" <za...@optonline.net>
> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:04 PM
> Subject: RE: (re)branding... Re: cvs
> commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
>
>
>> I like 'hacked' and I like 'humble'
>>
>> Since this is for marketing types, I propose 'happy' :)
>>
>> Michael Zalewski
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rainer Klute [mailto:klute@rainer-klute.de]
>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:10 PM
>> To: POI Developers List; Ryan Ackley
>> Cc: Rainer Klute
>> Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
>> commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
>>
>> Hm, still not "professional". I think I'll browse my Oxford Dictionary.
>>
>> "Ryan Ackley" <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I like it
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Serge Huber" <sh...@jahia.com>
>>> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
>>> commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How about "Hacked" ?
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Serge...
>>>
>>> At 02:29 PM 8/8/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>>>>> Humble .. *IMHO* ;-)
>>>>
>>>> "Holistic" - doesn't mean anything but sounds, er, professional.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Rainer Klute
>>
>>
>>
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Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
Posted by Ryan Ackley <sa...@cfl.rr.com>.
I think coming up with a new adjective that starts with 'H' is extremely
silly. Its taking our marketing to a new low. I don't think we are on the
lips of non-technical people. They don't discuss using us during happy hour.
Conversations go more like this... "What's that geek Bob using to meet our
deadline again? Apache something or other." Worst case they use the acronym
"POI". When HSSF is brought up in a meetings people aren't like "We are
using the Horrible Spreadsheet Format Library" or "The Horrible Spreadsheet
Format API is helping us meet our requirements". They use the acronym
instead and its probably forgotten 7 milliseconds later. Most
marketing/manager types only care that they have a task/requirement that is
met.
Another objection is based on principle. I already have to sacrifice my
sense of humor at work when it comes to stuff like this. Why do it for
something most of us work on in our spare time. We shouldn't take ourselves
so seriously that we lose a sense of humor.
Ryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Zalewski" <za...@optonline.net>
To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: (re)branding... Re: cvs
commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
> I like 'hacked' and I like 'humble'
>
> Since this is for marketing types, I propose 'happy' :)
>
> Michael Zalewski
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rainer Klute [mailto:klute@rainer-klute.de]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: POI Developers List; Ryan Ackley
> Cc: Rainer Klute
> Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
> commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
>
> Hm, still not "professional". I think I'll browse my Oxford Dictionary.
>
> "Ryan Ackley" <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >I like it
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Serge Huber" <sh...@jahia.com>
> >To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:02 AM
> >Subject: Re: (re)branding... Re: cvs
> >commit:jakarta-poi/src/documentation/content/xdocs/hpsf internals.xml
> >
> >
> >
> >How about "Hacked" ?
> >
> >cheers,
> > Serge...
> >
> >At 02:29 PM 8/8/2003 +0200, you wrote:
> >> > Humble .. *IMHO* ;-)
> >>
> >>"Holistic" - doesn't mean anything but sounds, er, professional.
> >>
> >>Best regards
> >>Rainer Klute
>
>
>
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