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Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Hi
Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
commit ?
I do not find any information on this subject on
http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
Agreement" to the ASF and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
contribution the complete attribution ?
Thanks in advance
/Nicolas
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de>.
So what are you planning to contribute?
--Thilo
On 11/4/2010 10:19, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> Hi Nicolas,
> So I guess there is willing to contribute new stuff to UIMA, nice :-)
> I think an IP Clearance is the right fit for such a need.
> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
> 2010/11/4 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
>> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
>> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
>> commit ?
>> I do not find any information on this subject on
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
>> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
>>
>> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
>> Agreement" to the ASF and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
>> contribution the complete attribution ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas.Hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> --
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> --
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>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi Nicolas,
So I guess there is willing to contribute new stuff to UIMA, nice :-)
I think an IP Clearance is the right fit for such a need.
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
Regards,
Tommaso
2010/11/4 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Hi
>
> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
> commit ?
> I do not find any information on this subject on
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
>
> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
> Agreement" to the ASF and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
> contribution the complete attribution ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> /Nicolas
>
> --
> Nicolas.Hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> --
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> --
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> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
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>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
Sounds very interesting, I am actually interested in training
the OpenNLP POS Tagger with this data. I guess we can also use it
to make a Tokenizer and Sentence Detector model.
Would it be possible that the owner of that data grants the right
to distribute models trained on it to the ASF itself?
Jörn
On 5/18/11 5:04 PM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I come back one year later...
>
> To remind you, we used a French Treebank corpus
> (http://www.llf.cnrs.fr/Gens/Abeille/French-Treebank-fr.php) to train
> models for processing French with the HMM tagger addon.
> I first contacted you for some advices since we did not own the
> resource we used and we were not sure to be allowed to distribute our
> models under Apache license. We were discussing about with the
> resource owner and we though that an alternative way to distribute the
> models we trained could be to jointly submit the models.
>
> Eventually, we got the grant from the owner to distribute the models
> we built up under the Apache License v2.
>
> In short, we built up French models for part of speech (pos),
> morphological (mph) and function grammatical (fct) tagging, as well as
> lemmatization (lemma). We use the Hmm tagger to perform the various
> tagging. A recent patch has been submitted to turn the Hmm tagger into
> a less type system dependant tagger.
> See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2110
>
> Before submitting the models to the project, I have some new
> questions. As a researcher it is important for us that our work be
> cited by other researchers. In addition, the models are only a few
> files but they represent a substantial contribution for the French
> Natural Language Processing community.
>
> So I was wondering whether you still advise me to perform the IP
> clearance procedure or just to add a specific mention in the NOTICE
> file.
>
> In the first case, could you find me an "appropriate volunter" for
> executing the IP Clearance processing?
>
> Another "substantial" question... our model files takes about 5 Mo
> each (pos, mph and fct) except the lemma model file which takes 24 Mo.
> Alternatively we built up a merged model for pos, mph and fct which
> takes 6.9 Mo. Do you thing it may cause a problem if we submit all of
> them?
>
> Best regards
>
> /Nicolas
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nicolas Hernandez<ni...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
> To: dev@uima.apache.org
>
>
> Thilo, we would like to submit a language model which was trained on a
> French Treebank corpus for the tagger addon. We do not own the
> treebank corpus we used. We are in discussion with her owner to know
> if we still respect the treebank License by distributing a model built
> on it under the Apache License.
> We though that an alternative way to distribute the model we trained
> could be to jointly submit the model with the owner of the treebank.
>
> Marshal, I will consult all the links you mention and come back if necessary
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Marshall Schor<ms...@schor.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/4/2010 5:06 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
>>> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
>>> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
>>> commit ?
>>> I do not find any information on this subject on
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
>>> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
>>>
>>> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
>>> Agreement" to the ASF
>> Each person has to have an "Individual Contributor License Agreement" on file
>> with the ASF (and, if appropriate, a Corporate Contribution License Agreement
>> (see http://www.apache.org/licenses/ and search for Corporate CLA).
>>
>> When you post the contribution, attach it to a Jira and state in the Jira itself
>> what you are doing, including granting the ASF a license under the Apache
>> Software License version 2.0).
>>
>> If the contribution represents "substantial" work developed outside of the ASF's
>> normal process, it will need to go through the IP clearance process, as Tommaso
>> described.
>>> and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
>>> contribution the complete attribution ?
>> Here's info to what goes in the Notice file:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
>>
>> and here's a link which says that the ASF prefers if the contributors do not put
>> individual copyright statements into the file:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#contributor-copyright - linking to
>> this in particular about moving existing copyright from source into the Notice file:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#header-existingcopyright
>>
>> Does this answer your question?
>>
>> -Marshall Schor
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>
>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Dear Everyone,
Tommaso asked me who holds the existing distribution rights because I
forgot to mention it in the IP clearance form and also to be sure I
have the right to make the donation... Actually Tommaso, I have to
check the name we have to write here (I am not sure which one of the
exact names of the individuals, laboratory or University should
appear). It may be the names of the researchers. I tell you soon.
Clearly, we want to transfer to the ASF all the right to make her
possible to distribute our contribution under the AL2 . As
researchers, we thought that the IP Clearance was the best way to
respect the authorship.
Marshall, we got an email from the legal department of the University
of Paris Diderot (who is the one who writes the French Treebank
License). After discussion with A. Abeillé who is the holder of the
corpus, they grant us the right to distribute under AL2 the models we
build from the French Treebank. The mail is in French but I can send
it wherever you want.
As I previously suggested I can also ask the holder and the legal
department of her University, if they agree to add an explicit mention
in their license to allow anyone to distribute under AL2 the models
automatically built from the corpus.
Best regards
/Nicolas
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
To: dev@uima.apache.org
I think we need to have documentation that shows that the donor in the SLA
(University of Nantes ?) obtained rights to license the language models built
using the treebank under the ASL v 2.0, because the treebank website lists a
different license which (it seems to me) is not compatible with ASL v 2.0 (it
restricts use of the treebank to "research" only, etc.).
-Marshall
On 6/17/2011 6:40 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> Hello Nicolas, all,
> I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see if
> it sounds good to you?
> In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of distribution
> rights, can you confirm that is correct?
> If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be welcome
> :)
> After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP
> Clearance.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2011/6/17 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>
>> Thanks Nicolas,
>> I'll review it as soon as possible.
>> Tommaso
>>
>>
>> 2011/6/17 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Patch submitted. Let me know if I have to be more precise.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Tommaso Teofili
>>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Nicolas,
>>>> did you already prepare the IP clearance template?
>>>> We usually maintain those files under our SVN website, see [1] as an
>>> example
>>>> of a former IP Clearance (see also the related thread [2]).
>>>> If the IP is ready you can add a patch to the website in the same Jira
>>> issue
>>>> [3] so that we can review it.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tommaso
>>>> [1]
>>>> :
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/xdocs/ip-clearances/
>>>> [2] : http://markmail.org/message/gbtph456u3445yfn
>>>> [3] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>>>
>>>> 2011/6/16 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Please tell me what can I do for it
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>>>>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>>>> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of
>>>>>>> helping
>>>>>>> you here yet.
>>>>>>> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
>>>>>> I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
>>>>>>>> submitted via the jira issue
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
>>>>>>>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>>>>>>>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
>>>>>>>> Clearance processing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Nicolas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>>>>>>>>>> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a
>>> French-Speaking
>>>>>>>>>> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP
>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>> since no models was available for French processing!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About the right to train models on this data set and then
>>>>>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>>>>>> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the
>>> right
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for.
>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>>>>>>>>>> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant.
>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>>>>>>>>>> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their
>>> web
>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and
>>> German
>>>>>>>>>> POS
>>>>>>>>>> models are not freely available, are they ?
>>>>>>>>> The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
>>>>>>>>> The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the
>>> IP
>>>>>>>>>> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution
>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the
>>> models.
>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available
>>>>>>>>>> (under
>>>>>>>>>> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the
>>> HMM
>>>>>>>>>> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>>>>>>>>>> uima-type-mapper).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Nicolas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <
>>> kottmann@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>>>>>>>>>>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>>>>>>>>>>> code changes and bug fixes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>>>>>>>>>>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jörn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>>>>>>> #
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>>>>>>>> #
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>>>>>>>> Département Informatique
>>>>>>>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> #
>>>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>>>> #
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> #
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>>>
>>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
I think we need to have documentation that shows that the donor in the SLA
(University of Nantes ?) obtained rights to license the language models built
using the treebank under the ASL v 2.0, because the treebank website lists a
different license which (it seems to me) is not compatible with ASL v 2.0 (it
restricts use of the treebank to "research" only, etc.).
-Marshall
On 6/17/2011 6:40 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> Hello Nicolas, all,
> I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see if
> it sounds good to you?
> In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of distribution
> rights, can you confirm that is correct?
> If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be welcome
> :)
> After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP
> Clearance.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2011/6/17 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>
>> Thanks Nicolas,
>> I'll review it as soon as possible.
>> Tommaso
>>
>>
>> 2011/6/17 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Patch submitted. Let me know if I have to be more precise.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Tommaso Teofili
>>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Nicolas,
>>>> did you already prepare the IP clearance template?
>>>> We usually maintain those files under our SVN website, see [1] as an
>>> example
>>>> of a former IP Clearance (see also the related thread [2]).
>>>> If the IP is ready you can add a patch to the website in the same Jira
>>> issue
>>>> [3] so that we can review it.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tommaso
>>>> [1]
>>>> :
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/xdocs/ip-clearances/
>>>> [2] : http://markmail.org/message/gbtph456u3445yfn
>>>> [3] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>>>
>>>> 2011/6/16 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Please tell me what can I do for it
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>>>>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>>>> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of
>>>>>>> helping
>>>>>>> you here yet.
>>>>>>> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
>>>>>> I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
>>>>>>>> submitted via the jira issue
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
>>>>>>>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>>>>>>>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
>>>>>>>> Clearance processing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Nicolas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>>>>>>>>>> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a
>>> French-Speaking
>>>>>>>>>> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP
>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>> since no models was available for French processing!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About the right to train models on this data set and then
>>>>>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>>>>>> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the
>>> right
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for.
>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>>>>>>>>>> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant.
>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>>>>>>>>>> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their
>>> web
>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and
>>> German
>>>>>>>>>> POS
>>>>>>>>>> models are not freely available, are they ?
>>>>>>>>> The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
>>>>>>>>> The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the
>>> IP
>>>>>>>>>> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution
>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the
>>> models.
>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available
>>>>>>>>>> (under
>>>>>>>>>> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the
>>> HMM
>>>>>>>>>> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>>>>>>>>>> uima-type-mapper).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Nicolas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <
>>> kottmann@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>>>>>>>>>>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>>>>>>>>>>> code changes and bug fixes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>>>>>>>>>>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jörn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>>>>>>>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>>>>>>>> Département Informatique
>>>>>>>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>>>> #
>>>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>>>> #
>>>>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>>>>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>>>>> #
>>>>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>>>>> Département Informatique
>>>>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>> #
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
On 9/2/11 10:05 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Yes, Jörn.
>
> Since we (LINA Lab.) managed to get the right to distrisbute the
> models, we contacted the owner (actually her legal department) in
> July, to ask her if it would be possible, with respect to the corpus
> rights, to specify in the license that the trained models could be
> distributed by anyone under AL2.
>
> So far, no news. I will ask again soon.
Great, I think having this exception in their license would be the
best solution for everyone, I guess we then don't even need
all the papers.
Usually these statistical models only contain at best short n-grams
which cannot be used to re-construct the original text and don't
violate the copyright of the training material it was created from.
Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Yes, Jörn.
Since we (LINA Lab.) managed to get the right to distrisbute the
models, we contacted the owner (actually her legal department) in
July, to ask her if it would be possible, with respect to the corpus
rights, to specify in the license that the trained models could be
distributed by anyone under AL2.
So far, no news. I will ask again soon.
Best
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/9/1 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>
>> On 9/1/11 5:38 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>
>>> 2011/9/1 Jörn Kottmann<ko...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> > On 9/1/11 2:39 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>> >> I am reviewing the legal stuff for this; if no one objects, once I'm
>>>>> >> finished I'll proceed with the vote for the acceptance for HMM
>>>>> Tagger
>>>>> >> French
>>>>> >> Models.
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Will it be possible for us to retrain these models? And then also
>>>> release
>>>> > the retrained models?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> As long as one can read French (that is a false sentence for me at the
>>> moment :P) Nicolas wrote something here:
>>> http://enicolashernandez.**blogspot.com/2011/05/**
>>> construire-des-modelisations-**du-french.html<http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html>
>>>
>>> The models were built on French Treebank corpus [1].
>>> It would be nice if it could be translated to English, and hopefully added
>>> to the Tagger documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>> > Otherwise it will be hard to change to code, since strict backward
>>>> > compatibility
>>>> > must be maintained.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> As far as I know, not at the moment as the legal stuff and this
>>> contribution
>>> regard only the models as they are without the data used to train them.
>>> Asking the French Treebank corpus rights owner to grant ASF a SGA for such
>>> data would be another piece of work I think.
>>>
>>
>> I guess it will be possible to follow the steps to retrain the model.
>> Then it would not be allowed to distribute this new model, right?
>>
>>
> I think so.
> Tommaso
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
2011/9/1 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
> On 9/1/11 5:38 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>
>> 2011/9/1 Jörn Kottmann<ko...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > On 9/1/11 2:39 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>>> >> I am reviewing the legal stuff for this; if no one objects, once I'm
>>>> >> finished I'll proceed with the vote for the acceptance for HMM
>>>> Tagger
>>>> >> French
>>>> >> Models.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>> >
>>> > Will it be possible for us to retrain these models? And then also
>>> release
>>> > the retrained models?
>>> >
>>>
>> As long as one can read French (that is a false sentence for me at the
>> moment :P) Nicolas wrote something here:
>> http://enicolashernandez.**blogspot.com/2011/05/**
>> construire-des-modelisations-**du-french.html<http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html>
>>
>> The models were built on French Treebank corpus [1].
>> It would be nice if it could be translated to English, and hopefully added
>> to the Tagger documentation.
>>
>>
>> >
>>> > Otherwise it will be hard to change to code, since strict backward
>>> > compatibility
>>> > must be maintained.
>>> >
>>>
>> As far as I know, not at the moment as the legal stuff and this
>> contribution
>> regard only the models as they are without the data used to train them.
>> Asking the French Treebank corpus rights owner to grant ASF a SGA for such
>> data would be another piece of work I think.
>>
>
> I guess it will be possible to follow the steps to retrain the model.
> Then it would not be allowed to distribute this new model, right?
>
>
I think so.
Tommaso
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
On 9/1/11 5:38 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> 2011/9/1 Jörn Kottmann<ko...@gmail.com>
>
>> > On 9/1/11 2:39 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>> >
>>> >> I am reviewing the legal stuff for this; if no one objects, once I'm
>>> >> finished I'll proceed with the vote for the acceptance for HMM Tagger
>>> >> French
>>> >> Models.
>>> >>
>> >
>> > Will it be possible for us to retrain these models? And then also release
>> > the retrained models?
>> >
> As long as one can read French (that is a false sentence for me at the
> moment :P) Nicolas wrote something here:
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>
> The models were built on French Treebank corpus [1].
> It would be nice if it could be translated to English, and hopefully added
> to the Tagger documentation.
>
>
>> >
>> > Otherwise it will be hard to change to code, since strict backward
>> > compatibility
>> > must be maintained.
>> >
> As far as I know, not at the moment as the legal stuff and this contribution
> regard only the models as they are without the data used to train them.
> Asking the French Treebank corpus rights owner to grant ASF a SGA for such
> data would be another piece of work I think.
I guess it will be possible to follow the steps to retrain the model.
Then it would not be allowed to distribute this new model, right?
Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
2011/9/1 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
> On 9/1/11 2:39 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>
>> I am reviewing the legal stuff for this; if no one objects, once I'm
>> finished I'll proceed with the vote for the acceptance for HMM Tagger
>> French
>> Models.
>>
>
> Will it be possible for us to retrain these models? And then also release
> the retrained models?
>
As long as one can read French (that is a false sentence for me at the
moment :P) Nicolas wrote something here:
http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
The models were built on French Treebank corpus [1].
It would be nice if it could be translated to English, and hopefully added
to the Tagger documentation.
>
> Otherwise it will be hard to change to code, since strict backward
> compatibility
> must be maintained.
>
As far as I know, not at the moment as the legal stuff and this contribution
regard only the models as they are without the data used to train them.
Asking the French Treebank corpus rights owner to grant ASF a SGA for such
data would be another piece of work I think.
My 2 cents.
Tommaso
[1] : http://www.llf.cnrs.fr/Gens/Abeille/French-Treebank-fr.php
>
> Jörn
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
On 9/1/11 2:39 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> I am reviewing the legal stuff for this; if no one objects, once I'm
> finished I'll proceed with the vote for the acceptance for HMM Tagger French
> Models.
Will it be possible for us to retrain these models? And then also release
the retrained models?
Otherwise it will be hard to change to code, since strict backward
compatibility
must be maintained.
Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I am reviewing the legal stuff for this; if no one objects, once I'm
finished I'll proceed with the vote for the acceptance for HMM Tagger French
Models.
Cheers,
Tommaso
2011/7/29 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> Right, CCLA recorded :-)
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2011/7/29 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi, we finally got an acknowledgment from Craig L Russel. Best
>>
>> Le 28 juil. 2011 16:21, "Jörn Kottmann" <ko...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > On 7/28/11 3:49 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>> >> the TextMarker one is there while the Univ. of Nantes still has to be
>> >> recorded.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Did you also see the Text Marker SGA?
>> >
>> > Would be nice if you can log it in the issue itself:
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2172
>> >
>> > Then we can start adding it to the sandbox, and Peter can start
>> > contributing patches to the code base.
>> >
>> > Jörn
>>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Right, CCLA recorded :-)
Tommaso
2011/7/29 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Hi, we finally got an acknowledgment from Craig L Russel. Best
>
> Le 28 juil. 2011 16:21, "Jörn Kottmann" <ko...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > On 7/28/11 3:49 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> >> the TextMarker one is there while the Univ. of Nantes still has to be
> >> recorded.
> >>
> >
> > Did you also see the Text Marker SGA?
> >
> > Would be nice if you can log it in the issue itself:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2172
> >
> > Then we can start adding it to the sandbox, and Peter can start
> > contributing patches to the code base.
> >
> > Jörn
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi, we finally got an acknowledgment from Craig L Russel. Best
Le 28 juil. 2011 16:21, "Jörn Kottmann" <ko...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> On 7/28/11 3:49 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>> the TextMarker one is there while the Univ. of Nantes still has to be
>> recorded.
>>
>
> Did you also see the Text Marker SGA?
>
> Would be nice if you can log it in the issue itself:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2172
>
> Then we can start adding it to the sandbox, and Peter can start
> contributing patches to the code base.
>
> Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
On 7/28/11 3:49 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> the TextMarker one is there while the Univ. of Nantes still has to be
> recorded.
>
Did you also see the Text Marker SGA?
Would be nice if you can log it in the issue itself:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2172
Then we can start adding it to the sandbox, and Peter can start
contributing patches to the code base.
Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
the TextMarker one is there while the Univ. of Nantes still has to be
recorded.
Tommaso
2011/7/28 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> I can do that, will let you know here shortly.
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2011/7/28 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>
>> On 7/28/11 2:53 PM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>
>>> You should have all the necessary CLA now.
>>>
>>
>> We need a member to check that for us, if someone does
>> please also check for the TextMarker documents.
>>
>> Jörn
>>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
I can do that, will let you know here shortly.
Tommaso
2011/7/28 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
> On 7/28/11 2:53 PM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>
>> You should have all the necessary CLA now.
>>
>
> We need a member to check that for us, if someone does
> please also check for the TextMarker documents.
>
> Jörn
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
On 7/28/11 2:53 PM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> You should have all the necessary CLA now.
We need a member to check that for us, if someone does
please also check for the TextMarker documents.
Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hello Everyone
Tommaso I confirm that the CCLA from the University has been sent a
few hours ago to the Apache secretary.
You should have all the necessary CLA now.
Best regards
/Nicolas
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you very much Nicolas, looking forward to it :)
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2011/7/12 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Tommaso
>>
>> Just to let you know
>>
>> Matthieu has sent his ICLA to Apache for a few weeks now.
>> About the CCLA of the University of Nantes, the legal department gave
>> his agreement (got the confirmation yesterday). The president of the
>> University will sign it soon... I tell you as soon as I know.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Tommaso Teofili
>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > One last thing, the IP clearance process [1] requires the following:
>> > Remind active committers that they are responsible for
>> > ensuring that a Corporate CLA is recorded if such is
>> > required to authorize their contributions under their
>> > individual CLA.
>> >
>> > So, since the University of Nantes is one of the distribution right
>> > holders,
>> > I think a CCLA from them is required.
>> > Also I see Nicolas Hernandez and Fabien Poulard have a recorded ICLA,
>> > while
>> > Matthieu Vernier seems to have not, so I would ask Nicolas to please
>> > ensure
>> > Matthieu sends his signed ICLA as well.
>> > Regards,
>> > Tommaso
>> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
>> >
>> > 2011/6/29 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Hello Nicolas,
>> >> 2011/6/28 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Tommaso
>> >>>
>> >>> I was not sure if I was the direct addressee of your mail.
>> >>
>> >> it was not for you only, just an update on work being done, however
>> >> thanks
>> >> for trying and reviewing, I'll have another look and call for a vote
>> >> once
>> >> it's committed.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Tommaso
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyway I tried the patch UIMA2146-ipc2.patch from [1], it achieved in
>> >>> patching the uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.xml file but failed in
>> >>> attempting to patch the uima-as.html and concept-mapper.html files. I
>> >>> think the patch should not modify these files, am I right ?
>> >>>
>> >>> In addition, there is no
>> >>> docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html created after
>> >>> running the ant command.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>> >>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > I've updated the IPC template on UIMA-2146 [1].
>> >>> > To check it out svn
>> >>> > co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/ to
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > directory, apply the patch in the Jira issue and run 'ant -f
>> >>> > build-ip-clearances.xml', then
>> >>> > open docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html with a
>> >>> > browser.
>> >>> > Regards,
>> >>> > Tommaso
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [1] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2011/6/23 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thanks Nicolas,
>> >>> >> I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
>> >>> >> Regards,
>> >>> >> Tommaso
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Hello Tommaso
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item
>> >>> >>> lists
>> >>> >>> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> <li>
>> >>> >>> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
>> >>> >>> </li>
>> >>> >>> <li>
>> >>> >>> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
>> >>> >>> </li>
>> >>> >>> <li>
>> >>> >>> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
>> >>> >>> </li>
>> >>> >>> <li>
>> >>> >>> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes,
>> >>> >>> CNRS</em>
>> >>> >>> </li>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you
>> >>> >>> add
>> >>> >>> manually the modifications.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Waiting for the next step...
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Regards
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting
>> >>> >>> <ju...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>> >>> >>> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution
>> >>> >>> >> rights to
>> >>> >>> >> ASF.
>> >>> >>> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would
>> >>> >>> > be
>> >>> >>> > slightly more accurate.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells
>> >>> >>> > this
>> >>> >>> > out in more detail:
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License,
>> >>> >>> > Licensor
>> >>> >>> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> >>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works
>> >>> >>> > of,
>> >>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and
>> >>> >>> > sublicense,
>> >>> >>> > internally and externally, the Software and such
>> >>> >>> > derivative
>> >>> >>> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> >>> >>> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use,
>> >>> >>> > sell,
>> >>> >>> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the
>> >>> >>> > Software
>> >>> >>> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents"
>> >>> >>> > mean
>> >>> >>> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
>> >>> >>> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the
>> >>> >>> > Apache
>> >>> >>> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and
>> >>> >>> > distribute
>> >>> >>> > it to the public.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use
>> >>> >>> > this
>> >>> >>> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
>> >>> >>> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or
>> >>> >>> > other
>> >>> >>> > distributions:
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and
>> >>> >>> > conditions
>> >>> >>> > of
>> >>> >>> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a
>> >>> >>> > perpetual,
>> >>> >>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free,
>> >>> >>> > irrevocable
>> >>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works
>> >>> >>> > of,
>> >>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and
>> >>> >>> > distribute
>> >>> >>> > the
>> >>> >>> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License"
>> >>> >>> > in
>> >>> >>> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses
>> >>> >>> > here,
>> >>> >>> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
>> >>> >>> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance
>> >>> >>> > process
>> >>> >>> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use
>> >>> >>> > under
>> >>> >>> > the ALv2 [2].
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >>> >>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
>> >>> >>> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > BR,
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Jukka Zitting
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> --
>> >>> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> >>> >>> #
>> >>> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> >>> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> >>> >>> #
>> >>> >>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
>> >>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> >>> >>> #
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>> >>> >>> Département Informatique
>> >>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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>> >>> #
>> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Thank you very much Nicolas, looking forward to it :)
Regards,
Tommaso
2011/7/12 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Hi Tommaso
>
> Just to let you know
>
> Matthieu has sent his ICLA to Apache for a few weeks now.
> About the CCLA of the University of Nantes, the legal department gave
> his agreement (got the confirmation yesterday). The president of the
> University will sign it soon... I tell you as soon as I know.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > One last thing, the IP clearance process [1] requires the following:
> > Remind active committers that they are responsible for
> > ensuring that a Corporate CLA is recorded if such is
> > required to authorize their contributions under their
> > individual CLA.
> >
> > So, since the University of Nantes is one of the distribution right
> holders,
> > I think a CCLA from them is required.
> > Also I see Nicolas Hernandez and Fabien Poulard have a recorded ICLA,
> while
> > Matthieu Vernier seems to have not, so I would ask Nicolas to please
> ensure
> > Matthieu sends his signed ICLA as well.
> > Regards,
> > Tommaso
> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
> >
> > 2011/6/29 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Hello Nicolas,
> >> 2011/6/28 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Tommaso
> >>>
> >>> I was not sure if I was the direct addressee of your mail.
> >>
> >> it was not for you only, just an update on work being done, however
> thanks
> >> for trying and reviewing, I'll have another look and call for a vote
> once
> >> it's committed.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tommaso
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Anyway I tried the patch UIMA2146-ipc2.patch from [1], it achieved in
> >>> patching the uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.xml file but failed in
> >>> attempting to patch the uima-as.html and concept-mapper.html files. I
> >>> think the patch should not modify these files, am I right ?
> >>>
> >>> In addition, there is no
> >>> docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html created after
> >>> running the ant command.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> >>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I've updated the IPC template on UIMA-2146 [1].
> >>> > To check it out svn
> >>> > co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/ to
> a
> >>> > directory, apply the patch in the Jira issue and run 'ant -f
> >>> > build-ip-clearances.xml', then
> >>> > open docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html with a
> >>> > browser.
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Tommaso
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > [1] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
> >>> >
> >>> > 2011/6/23 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks Nicolas,
> >>> >> I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
> >>> >> Regards,
> >>> >> Tommaso
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Hello Tommaso
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item
> lists
> >>> >>> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> <li>
> >>> >>> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
> >>> >>> </li>
> >>> >>> <li>
> >>> >>> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
> >>> >>> </li>
> >>> >>> <li>
> >>> >>> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
> >>> >>> </li>
> >>> >>> <li>
> >>> >>> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes,
> >>> >>> CNRS</em>
> >>> >>> </li>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you
> add
> >>> >>> manually the modifications.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Waiting for the next step...
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Regards
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting
> >>> >>> <ju...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> >>> >>> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution
> >>> >>> >> rights to
> >>> >>> >> ASF.
> >>> >>> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would
> be
> >>> >>> > slightly more accurate.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells
> this
> >>> >>> > out in more detail:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License,
> Licensor
> >>> >>> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> >>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works
> >>> >>> > of,
> >>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and
> >>> >>> > sublicense,
> >>> >>> > internally and externally, the Software and such
> derivative
> >>> >>> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> >>> >>> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
> >>> >>> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
> >>> >>> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents"
> >>> >>> > mean
> >>> >>> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
> >>> >>> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the
> >>> >>> > Apache
> >>> >>> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and
> >>> >>> > distribute
> >>> >>> > it to the public.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use
> >>> >>> > this
> >>> >>> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
> >>> >>> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or
> other
> >>> >>> > distributions:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and
> >>> >>> > conditions
> >>> >>> > of
> >>> >>> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a
> >>> >>> > perpetual,
> >>> >>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free,
> >>> >>> > irrevocable
> >>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works
> of,
> >>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and
> >>> >>> > distribute
> >>> >>> > the
> >>> >>> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License"
> in
> >>> >>> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses
> >>> >>> > here,
> >>> >>> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
> >>> >>> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance
> >>> >>> > process
> >>> >>> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use
> >>> >>> > under
> >>> >>> > the ALv2 [2].
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >>> >>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
> >>> >>> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > BR,
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Jukka Zitting
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> --
> >>> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> >>> >>> #
> >>> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> >>> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> >>> >>> #
> >>> >>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
> >>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> >>> >>> #
> >>> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> >>> >>> Département Informatique
> >>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> >>> #
> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> >>> #
> >>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> >>> #
> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> >>> Département Informatique
> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> #
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> #
> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> #
> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> Département Informatique
> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tommaso
Just to let you know
Matthieu has sent his ICLA to Apache for a few weeks now.
About the CCLA of the University of Nantes, the legal department gave
his agreement (got the confirmation yesterday). The president of the
University will sign it soon... I tell you as soon as I know.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> One last thing, the IP clearance process [1] requires the following:
> Remind active committers that they are responsible for
> ensuring that a Corporate CLA is recorded if such is
> required to authorize their contributions under their
> individual CLA.
>
> So, since the University of Nantes is one of the distribution right holders,
> I think a CCLA from them is required.
> Also I see Nicolas Hernandez and Fabien Poulard have a recorded ICLA, while
> Matthieu Vernier seems to have not, so I would ask Nicolas to please ensure
> Matthieu sends his signed ICLA as well.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
>
> 2011/6/29 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hello Nicolas,
>> 2011/6/28 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Tommaso
>>>
>>> I was not sure if I was the direct addressee of your mail.
>>
>> it was not for you only, just an update on work being done, however thanks
>> for trying and reviewing, I'll have another look and call for a vote once
>> it's committed.
>> Thanks,
>> Tommaso
>>
>>>
>>> Anyway I tried the patch UIMA2146-ipc2.patch from [1], it achieved in
>>> patching the uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.xml file but failed in
>>> attempting to patch the uima-as.html and concept-mapper.html files. I
>>> think the patch should not modify these files, am I right ?
>>>
>>> In addition, there is no
>>> docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html created after
>>> running the ant command.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I've updated the IPC template on UIMA-2146 [1].
>>> > To check it out svn
>>> > co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/ to a
>>> > directory, apply the patch in the Jira issue and run 'ant -f
>>> > build-ip-clearances.xml', then
>>> > open docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html with a
>>> > browser.
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Tommaso
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [1] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>> >
>>> > 2011/6/23 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks Nicolas,
>>> >> I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Tommaso
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hello Tommaso
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item lists
>>> >>> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
>>> >>>
>>> >>> <li>
>>> >>> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
>>> >>> </li>
>>> >>> <li>
>>> >>> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
>>> >>> </li>
>>> >>> <li>
>>> >>> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
>>> >>> </li>
>>> >>> <li>
>>> >>> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes,
>>> >>> CNRS</em>
>>> >>> </li>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you add
>>> >>> manually the modifications.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Waiting for the next step...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting
>>> >>> <ju...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> > Hi,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>>> >>> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution
>>> >>> >> rights to
>>> >>> >> ASF.
>>> >>> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
>>> >>> > slightly more accurate.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
>>> >>> > out in more detail:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
>>> >>> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works
>>> >>> > of,
>>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and
>>> >>> > sublicense,
>>> >>> > internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
>>> >>> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>>> >>> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
>>> >>> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
>>> >>> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents"
>>> >>> > mean
>>> >>> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
>>> >>> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the
>>> >>> > Apache
>>> >>> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and
>>> >>> > distribute
>>> >>> > it to the public.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use
>>> >>> > this
>>> >>> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
>>> >>> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
>>> >>> > distributions:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and
>>> >>> > conditions
>>> >>> > of
>>> >>> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a
>>> >>> > perpetual,
>>> >>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free,
>>> >>> > irrevocable
>>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
>>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and
>>> >>> > distribute
>>> >>> > the
>>> >>> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
>>> >>> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses
>>> >>> > here,
>>> >>> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
>>> >>> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance
>>> >>> > process
>>> >>> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use
>>> >>> > under
>>> >>> > the ALv2 [2].
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>> >>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
>>> >>> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > BR,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Jukka Zitting
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>> >>> #
>>> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>> >>> #
>>> >>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
>>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>>> >>> #
>>> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>>> >>> Département Informatique
>>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>> #
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>> #
>>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>>> #
>>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>>> Département Informatique
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>
>
>
--
nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
#
http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
#
Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
#
Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
Département Informatique
tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
One last thing, the IP clearance process [1] requires the following:
Remind active committers that they are responsible for
ensuring that a Corporate CLA is recorded if such is
required to authorize their contributions under their
individual CLA.
So, since the University of Nantes is one of the distribution right holders,
I think a CCLA from them is required.
Also I see Nicolas Hernandez and Fabien Poulard have a recorded ICLA, while
Matthieu Vernier seems to have not, so I would ask Nicolas to please ensure
Matthieu sends his signed ICLA as well.
Regards,
Tommaso
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
2011/6/29 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> Hello Nicolas,
>
> 2011/6/28 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi Tommaso
>>
>> I was not sure if I was the direct addressee of your mail.
>>
>
> it was not for you only, just an update on work being done, however thanks
> for trying and reviewing, I'll have another look and call for a vote once
> it's committed.
> Thanks,
> Tommaso
>
>
>
>>
>> Anyway I tried the patch UIMA2146-ipc2.patch from [1], it achieved in
>> patching the uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.xml file but failed in
>> attempting to patch the uima-as.html and concept-mapper.html files. I
>> think the patch should not modify these files, am I right ?
>
>
>> In addition, there is no
>> docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html created after
>> running the ant command.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've updated the IPC template on UIMA-2146 [1].
>> > To check it out svn
>> > co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/ to a
>> > directory, apply the patch in the Jira issue and run 'ant -f
>> > build-ip-clearances.xml', then
>> > open docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html with a
>> browser.
>> > Regards,
>> > Tommaso
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>> >
>> > 2011/6/23 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Nicolas,
>> >> I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Tommaso
>> >>
>> >> 2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello Tommaso
>> >>>
>> >>> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item lists
>> >>> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
>> >>>
>> >>> <li>
>> >>> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
>> >>> </li>
>> >>> <li>
>> >>> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
>> >>> </li>
>> >>> <li>
>> >>> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
>> >>> </li>
>> >>> <li>
>> >>> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes,
>> >>> CNRS</em>
>> >>> </li>
>> >>>
>> >>> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you add
>> >>> manually the modifications.
>> >>>
>> >>> Waiting for the next step...
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting <
>> jukka.zitting@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>> >>> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights
>> to
>> >>> >> ASF.
>> >>> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
>> >>> > slightly more accurate.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
>> >>> > out in more detail:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
>> >>> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and
>> sublicense,
>> >>> > internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
>> >>> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> >>> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
>> >>> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
>> >>> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents" mean
>> >>> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
>> >>> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the Apache
>> >>> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and
>> distribute
>> >>> > it to the public.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use
>> this
>> >>> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
>> >>> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
>> >>> > distributions:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and
>> conditions
>> >>> > of
>> >>> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a
>> perpetual,
>> >>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
>> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
>> >>> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses
>> here,
>> >>> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
>> >>> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance process
>> >>> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use under
>> >>> > the ALv2 [2].
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
>> >>> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
>> >>> >
>> >>> > BR,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Jukka Zitting
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> >>> #
>> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> >>> #
>> >>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> >>> #
>> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>> >>> Département Informatique
>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> #
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> #
>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> #
>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>> Département Informatique
>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hello Nicolas,
2011/6/28 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Hi Tommaso
>
> I was not sure if I was the direct addressee of your mail.
>
it was not for you only, just an update on work being done, however thanks
for trying and reviewing, I'll have another look and call for a vote once
it's committed.
Thanks,
Tommaso
>
> Anyway I tried the patch UIMA2146-ipc2.patch from [1], it achieved in
> patching the uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.xml file but failed in
> attempting to patch the uima-as.html and concept-mapper.html files. I
> think the patch should not modify these files, am I right ?
> In addition, there is no
> docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html created after
> running the ant command.
>
> Regards
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've updated the IPC template on UIMA-2146 [1].
> > To check it out svn
> > co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/ to a
> > directory, apply the patch in the Jira issue and run 'ant -f
> > build-ip-clearances.xml', then
> > open docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html with a
> browser.
> > Regards,
> > Tommaso
> >
> >
> > [1] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
> >
> > 2011/6/23 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Thanks Nicolas,
> >> I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
> >> Regards,
> >> Tommaso
> >>
> >> 2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> Hello Tommaso
> >>>
> >>> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item lists
> >>> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
> >>>
> >>> <li>
> >>> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
> >>> </li>
> >>> <li>
> >>> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
> >>> </li>
> >>> <li>
> >>> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
> >>> </li>
> >>> <li>
> >>> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes,
> >>> CNRS</em>
> >>> </li>
> >>>
> >>> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you add
> >>> manually the modifications.
> >>>
> >>> Waiting for the next step...
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting <
> jukka.zitting@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> >>> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights
> to
> >>> >> ASF.
> >>> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
> >>> >
> >>> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
> >>> > slightly more accurate.
> >>> >
> >>> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
> >>> > out in more detail:
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
> >>> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
> >>> >
> >>> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and
> sublicense,
> >>> > internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
> >>> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
> >>> >
> >>> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> >>> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
> >>> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
> >>> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents" mean
> >>> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
> >>> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
> >>> >
> >>> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the Apache
> >>> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and distribute
> >>> > it to the public.
> >>> >
> >>> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use this
> >>> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
> >>> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
> >>> > distributions:
> >>> >
> >>> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions
> >>> > of
> >>> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a
> perpetual,
> >>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
> >>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
> >>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute
> >>> > the
> >>> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
> >>> >
> >>> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
> >>> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses here,
> >>> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
> >>> >
> >>> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
> >>> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance process
> >>> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use under
> >>> > the ALv2 [2].
> >>> >
> >>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
> >>> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> >>> >
> >>> > BR,
> >>> >
> >>> > Jukka Zitting
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> >>> #
> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> >>> #
> >>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> >>> #
> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> >>> Département Informatique
> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> #
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> #
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>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tommaso
I was not sure if I was the direct addressee of your mail.
Anyway I tried the patch UIMA2146-ipc2.patch from [1], it achieved in
patching the uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.xml file but failed in
attempting to patch the uima-as.html and concept-mapper.html files. I
think the patch should not modify these files, am I right ?
In addition, there is no
docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html created after
running the ant command.
Regards
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've updated the IPC template on UIMA-2146 [1].
> To check it out svn
> co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/ to a
> directory, apply the patch in the Jira issue and run 'ant -f
> build-ip-clearances.xml', then
> open docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html with a browser.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
>
> [1] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>
> 2011/6/23 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Thanks Nicolas,
>> I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
>> Regards,
>> Tommaso
>>
>> 2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hello Tommaso
>>>
>>> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item lists
>>> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
>>>
>>> <li>
>>> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
>>> </li>
>>> <li>
>>> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
>>> </li>
>>> <li>
>>> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
>>> </li>
>>> <li>
>>> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes,
>>> CNRS</em>
>>> </li>
>>>
>>> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you add
>>> manually the modifications.
>>>
>>> Waiting for the next step...
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>>> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to
>>> >> ASF.
>>> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
>>> >
>>> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
>>> > slightly more accurate.
>>> >
>>> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
>>> > out in more detail:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
>>> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
>>> >
>>> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
>>> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and sublicense,
>>> > internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
>>> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
>>> >
>>> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>>> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
>>> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
>>> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents" mean
>>> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
>>> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
>>> >
>>> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the Apache
>>> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and distribute
>>> > it to the public.
>>> >
>>> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use this
>>> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
>>> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
>>> > distributions:
>>> >
>>> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions
>>> > of
>>> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a perpetual,
>>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
>>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
>>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute
>>> > the
>>> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
>>> >
>>> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
>>> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses here,
>>> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
>>> >
>>> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
>>> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance process
>>> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use under
>>> > the ALv2 [2].
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
>>> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
>>> >
>>> > BR,
>>> >
>>> > Jukka Zitting
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>> #
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>> #
>>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>>> #
>>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>>> Département Informatique
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>
>
>
--
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http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
I've updated the IPC template on UIMA-2146 [1].
To check it out svn co
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/ to a
directory, apply the patch in the Jira issue and run 'ant -f
build-ip-clearances.xml', then
open docs/ip-clearances/uima-hmm-tagger-french-models.html with a browser.
Regards,
Tommaso
[1] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
2011/6/23 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> Thanks Nicolas,
> I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hello Tommaso
>>
>> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item lists
>> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
>>
>> <li>
>> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
>> </li>
>> <li>
>> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
>> </li>
>> <li>
>> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
>> </li>
>> <li>
>> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes,
>> CNRS</em>
>> </li>
>>
>> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you add
>> manually the modifications.
>>
>> Waiting for the next step...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to
>> ASF.
>> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
>> >
>> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
>> > slightly more accurate.
>> >
>> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
>> > out in more detail:
>> >
>> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
>> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
>> >
>> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
>> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and sublicense,
>> > internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
>> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
>> >
>> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
>> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
>> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents" mean
>> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
>> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
>> >
>> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the Apache
>> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and distribute
>> > it to the public.
>> >
>> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use this
>> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
>> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
>> > distributions:
>> >
>> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of
>> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a perpetual,
>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute the
>> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
>> >
>> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
>> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses here,
>> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
>> >
>> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
>> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance process
>> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use under
>> > the ALv2 [2].
>> >
>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
>> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
>> >
>> > BR,
>> >
>> > Jukka Zitting
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> #
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> #
>> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> #
>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>> Département Informatique
>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Nicolas,
I'm going to modify the patch of the IP template.
Regards,
Tommaso
2011/6/23 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Hello Tommaso
>
> The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item lists
> the supervision institution of our laboratory):
>
> <li>
> <em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
> </li>
> <li>
> <em>Fabien Poulard</em>
> </li>
> <li>
> <em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
> </li>
> <li>
> <em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes, CNRS</em>
> </li>
>
> I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you add
> manually the modifications.
>
> Waiting for the next step...
>
> Regards
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> > <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to
> ASF.
> >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> > You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
> > slightly more accurate.
> >
> > The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
> > out in more detail:
> >
> > 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
> > hereby grants to the Foundation:
> >
> > a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
> > publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and sublicense,
> > internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
> > works, in source code and object code form; and,
> >
> > b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> > patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
> > offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
> > in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents" mean
> > patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
> > infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
> >
> > What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the Apache
> > UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and distribute
> > it to the public.
> >
> > And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use this
> > material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
> > sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
> > distributions:
> >
> > 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of
> > this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a perpetual,
> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute the
> > Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
> >
> > (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
> > both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses here,
> > but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
> >
> > So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
> > software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance process
> > [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use under
> > the ALv2 [2].
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
> >
>
>
>
> --
> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> #
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> #
> Laboratoire Informatique de Nantes Atlantique CNRS UMR 6241
> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> #
> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> Département Informatique
> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hello Tommaso
The holders of the distribution rights should be (the last item lists
the supervision institution of our laboratory):
<li>
<em>Nicolas Hernandez</em>
</li>
<li>
<em>Fabien Poulard</em>
</li>
<li>
<em>Matthieu Vernier</em>
</li>
<li>
<em>Université de Nantes, Ecole des Mines de Nantes, CNRS</em>
</li>
I saw that your patch integrates svn modifications, so I let you add
manually the modifications.
Waiting for the next step...
Regards
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to ASF.
>> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
>
> You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
> slightly more accurate.
>
> The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
> out in more detail:
>
> 1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
> hereby grants to the Foundation:
>
> a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
> publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and sublicense,
> internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
> works, in source code and object code form; and,
>
> b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
> patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
> offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
> in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents" mean
> patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
> infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
>
> What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the Apache
> UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and distribute
> it to the public.
>
> And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use this
> material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
> sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
> distributions:
>
> 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of
> this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a perpetual,
> worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
> copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
> publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute the
> Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
>
> (Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
> both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses here,
> but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
>
> So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
> software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance process
> [3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use under
> the ALv2 [2].
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
> [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
--
nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
#
http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
#
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tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
#
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Département Informatique
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to ASF.
> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
You're right, though using "grants" instead of "transfers" would be
slightly more accurate.
The exact wording of clause 1 in the software grant [1] spells this
out in more detail:
1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor
hereby grants to the Foundation:
a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and sublicense,
internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
works, in source code and object code form; and,
b) a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell,
offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Software
in source code and object code form. "Licensed Patents" mean
patent claims owned by Licensor which are necessarily
infringed by the use or sale of the Software alone.
What this means in practice is that the ASF (in this case the Apache
UIMA project) can "sublicense" the material under ALv2 and distribute
it to the public.
And regarding any downstream consumers who'd want to further use this
material, clause 2 of the ALv2 grants them similar rights to
sublicense and distribute it as part of their own products or other
distributions:
2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of
this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a perpetual,
worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of,
publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute the
Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form.
(Note the "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License" in
both cases. I'm quoting just the essential bits of the licenses here,
but you'll need to read them entirely for all the details.)
So, to summarize, once the original copyright holder submits the
software grant [1] and we take this through the IP clearance process
[3], Apache UIMA will release the material for everyone to use under
the ALv2 [2].
[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
[2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
[3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
First, I am not a lawyer. These are just my thoughts about how things work at
Apache.
What happens is not the "transfer of rights", but rather instead, holders of IP
grant a license to the ASF that includes permissions for the ASF to distribute
and to sublicense others to do the same.
See the text of the software grant (
http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt ), in the first "grant" # 1 a).
-Marshall
On 6/17/2011 7:40 AM, Richard Eckart de Castilho wrote:
> I ask because I always assumed that the ASF grants redistribution rights to all artifacts to everybody. So if the distribution rights are granted to the ASF, but not to the general public, the models might be redistributed through the UIMA website, but if I wanted to include them in a distribution, I would require an explicit permission from the University of Nantes. If that interpretation is correct, then I would be worried about my understanding and handling of the ASL.
>
> So is it correct to assume that if the distribution rights are transferred the ASF, that also the right to grant distribution rights is transferred to the ASF and that the ASF in turn grants distribution rights to the general public?
>
> Best,
>
> Richard
>
> Am 17.06.2011 um 13:08 schrieb Tommaso Teofili:
>
>> Hello Richard,
>> I was asking Nicolas about this just because I wanted to be sure we set
>> right the copyright holder, see also Jörn's questions:
>>
>> 2011/5/31 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> And even when we follow your description to retrain the models, do we
>>> then have the right to publish it under AL 2.0 or do we need to go through
>>> IP clearance
>>> again, because the AL 2.0 publishing is an agreement between you and the
>>> corpus copyright holder?
>>>
>>> I think having an agreement which grants rights to the ASF to publish the
>>> models trained on the
>>> data under AL 2.0 is what we need, and it would also be nice if every
>>> committer in the team could
>>> get access to the data.
>>
>> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to ASF.
>> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
>> Regards,
>> Tommaso
>>
>> 2011/6/17 Richard Eckart de Castilho <eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
>>> Hello Tommaso,
>>>
>>> as an interested bystander I am would like to know more about the IP and
>>> distribution rights.
>>>
>>> Is it not the case that full copyright and distribution rights have to be
>>> transferred to the Apache Foundation?
>>> What is the effect of having the University of Nantes as the distribution
>>> rights holder?
>>> Doesn't the Apache License clearly state that the licensed item are freely
>>> distributable?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Am 17.06.2011 um 12:40 schrieb Tommaso Teofili:
>>>
>>>> Hello Nicolas, all,
>>>> I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see
>>> if
>>>> it sounds good to you?
>>>> In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of
>>> distribution
>>>> rights, can you confirm that is correct?
>>>> If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be
>>> welcome
>>>> :)
>>>> After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP
>>>> Clearance.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tommaso
>>>>
>>> --
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Richard Eckart de Castilho
>>> Technical Lead
>>> Ubiquitous Knowledge Processing Lab
>>> FB 20 Computer Science Department
>>> Technische Universität Darmstadt
>>> Hochschulstr. 10, D-64289 Darmstadt, Germany
>>> phone [+49] (0)6151 16-7477, fax -5455, room S2/02/B117
>>> eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
>>> www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de
>>> Web Research at TU Darmstadt (WeRC) www.werc.tu-darmstadt.de
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Richard Eckart de Castilho
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Richard Eckart de Castilho <ec...@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
I ask because I always assumed that the ASF grants redistribution rights to all artifacts to everybody. So if the distribution rights are granted to the ASF, but not to the general public, the models might be redistributed through the UIMA website, but if I wanted to include them in a distribution, I would require an explicit permission from the University of Nantes. If that interpretation is correct, then I would be worried about my understanding and handling of the ASL.
So is it correct to assume that if the distribution rights are transferred the ASF, that also the right to grant distribution rights is transferred to the ASF and that the ASF in turn grants distribution rights to the general public?
Best,
Richard
Am 17.06.2011 um 13:08 schrieb Tommaso Teofili:
> Hello Richard,
> I was asking Nicolas about this just because I wanted to be sure we set
> right the copyright holder, see also Jörn's questions:
>
> 2011/5/31 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>
>>
>> And even when we follow your description to retrain the models, do we
>> then have the right to publish it under AL 2.0 or do we need to go through
>> IP clearance
>> again, because the AL 2.0 publishing is an agreement between you and the
>> corpus copyright holder?
>>
>> I think having an agreement which grants rights to the ASF to publish the
>> models trained on the
>> data under AL 2.0 is what we need, and it would also be nice if every
>> committer in the team could
>> get access to the data.
>
>
> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to ASF.
> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
> 2011/6/17 Richard Eckart de Castilho <eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
>>
>
>> Hello Tommaso,
>>
>> as an interested bystander I am would like to know more about the IP and
>> distribution rights.
>>
>> Is it not the case that full copyright and distribution rights have to be
>> transferred to the Apache Foundation?
>> What is the effect of having the University of Nantes as the distribution
>> rights holder?
>> Doesn't the Apache License clearly state that the licensed item are freely
>> distributable?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Am 17.06.2011 um 12:40 schrieb Tommaso Teofili:
>>
>>> Hello Nicolas, all,
>>> I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see
>> if
>>> it sounds good to you?
>>> In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of
>> distribution
>>> rights, can you confirm that is correct?
>>> If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be
>> welcome
>>> :)
>>> After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP
>>> Clearance.
>>> Regards,
>>> Tommaso
>>>
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Richard Eckart de Castilho
>> Technical Lead
>> Ubiquitous Knowledge Processing Lab
>> FB 20 Computer Science Department
>> Technische Universität Darmstadt
>> Hochschulstr. 10, D-64289 Darmstadt, Germany
>> phone [+49] (0)6151 16-7477, fax -5455, room S2/02/B117
>> eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
>> www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de
>> Web Research at TU Darmstadt (WeRC) www.werc.tu-darmstadt.de
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Richard Eckart de Castilho
--
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Richard Eckart de Castilho
Technical Lead
Ubiquitous Knowledge Processing Lab
FB 20 Computer Science Department
Technische Universität Darmstadt
Hochschulstr. 10, D-64289 Darmstadt, Germany
phone [+49] (0)6151 16-7477, fax -5455, room S2/02/B117
eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de
Web Research at TU Darmstadt (WeRC) www.werc.tu-darmstadt.de
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hello Richard,
I was asking Nicolas about this just because I wanted to be sure we set
right the copyright holder, see also Jörn's questions:
2011/5/31 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>
> And even when we follow your description to retrain the models, do we
> then have the right to publish it under AL 2.0 or do we need to go through
> IP clearance
> again, because the AL 2.0 publishing is an agreement between you and the
> corpus copyright holder?
>
> I think having an agreement which grants rights to the ASF to publish the
> models trained on the
> data under AL 2.0 is what we need, and it would also be nice if every
> committer in the team could
> get access to the data.
so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to ASF.
Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
Tommaso
2011/6/17 Richard Eckart de Castilho <eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
>
> Hello Tommaso,
>
> as an interested bystander I am would like to know more about the IP and
> distribution rights.
>
> Is it not the case that full copyright and distribution rights have to be
> transferred to the Apache Foundation?
> What is the effect of having the University of Nantes as the distribution
> rights holder?
> Doesn't the Apache License clearly state that the licensed item are freely
> distributable?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
> Am 17.06.2011 um 12:40 schrieb Tommaso Teofili:
>
> > Hello Nicolas, all,
> > I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see
> if
> > it sounds good to you?
> > In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of
> distribution
> > rights, can you confirm that is correct?
> > If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be
> welcome
> > :)
> > After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP
> > Clearance.
> > Regards,
> > Tommaso
> >
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Eckart de Castilho
> Technical Lead
> Ubiquitous Knowledge Processing Lab
> FB 20 Computer Science Department
> Technische Universität Darmstadt
> Hochschulstr. 10, D-64289 Darmstadt, Germany
> phone [+49] (0)6151 16-7477, fax -5455, room S2/02/B117
> eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
> www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de
> Web Research at TU Darmstadt (WeRC) www.werc.tu-darmstadt.de
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Richard Eckart de Castilho <ec...@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
Hello Tommaso,
as an interested bystander I am would like to know more about the IP and distribution rights.
Is it not the case that full copyright and distribution rights have to be transferred to the Apache Foundation?
What is the effect of having the University of Nantes as the distribution rights holder?
Doesn't the Apache License clearly state that the licensed item are freely distributable?
Cheers,
Richard
Am 17.06.2011 um 12:40 schrieb Tommaso Teofili:
> Hello Nicolas, all,
> I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see if
> it sounds good to you?
> In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of distribution
> rights, can you confirm that is correct?
> If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be welcome
> :)
> After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP
> Clearance.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Eckart de Castilho
Technical Lead
Ubiquitous Knowledge Processing Lab
FB 20 Computer Science Department
Technische Universität Darmstadt
Hochschulstr. 10, D-64289 Darmstadt, Germany
phone [+49] (0)6151 16-7477, fax -5455, room S2/02/B117
eckartde@tk.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de
www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de
Web Research at TU Darmstadt (WeRC) www.werc.tu-darmstadt.de
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hello Nicolas, all,
I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see if
it sounds good to you?
In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of distribution
rights, can you confirm that is correct?
If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be welcome
:)
After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP
Clearance.
Regards,
Tommaso
2011/6/17 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> Thanks Nicolas,
> I'll review it as soon as possible.
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2011/6/17 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>
>> Patch submitted. Let me know if I have to be more precise.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Tommaso Teofili
>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello Nicolas,
>> > did you already prepare the IP clearance template?
>> > We usually maintain those files under our SVN website, see [1] as an
>> example
>> > of a former IP Clearance (see also the related thread [2]).
>> > If the IP is ready you can add a patch to the website in the same Jira
>> issue
>> > [3] so that we can review it.
>> > Regards,
>> > Tommaso
>> > [1]
>> > :
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/xdocs/ip-clearances/
>> > [2] : http://markmail.org/message/gbtph456u3445yfn
>> > [3] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>> >
>> > 2011/6/16 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Please tell me what can I do for it
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>> >> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nicolas,
>> >> >> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of
>> >> >> helping
>> >> >> you here yet.
>> >> >> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
>> >> >
>> >> > I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
>> >> > Tommaso
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Tommaso
>> >> >> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
>> >> >>> submitted via the jira issue
>> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
>> >> >>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
>> >> >>> Clearance processing?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best regards
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> /Nicolas
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>> >> >>> >> Hello Everyone
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>> >> >>> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a
>> French-Speaking
>> >> >>> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP
>> >> >>> >> project
>> >> >>> >> since no models was available for French processing!
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then
>> >> >>> >> distribute
>> >> >>> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the
>> right
>> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for.
>> Now
>> >> >>> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>> >> >>> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant.
>> You
>> >> >>> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>> >> >>> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their
>> web
>> >> >>> >> site.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and
>> German
>> >> >>> >> POS
>> >> >>> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
>> >> >>> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the
>> IP
>> >> >>> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution
>> ?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the
>> models.
>> >> >>> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available
>> >> >>> >> (under
>> >> >>> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the
>> HMM
>> >> >>> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also
>> >> >>> >> available
>> >> >>> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>> >> >>> >> uima-type-mapper).
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Regards
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> /Nicolas
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <
>> kottmann@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >>> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance
>> is
>> >> >>> >>>> the
>> >> >>> >>>> right
>> >> >>> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>> >> >>> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>> >> >>> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>> >> >>> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> Jörn
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> >> >>> #
>> >> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> >> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> >> >>> #
>> >> >>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>> >> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> >> >>> #
>> >> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>> >> >>> Département Informatique
>> >> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> >> #
>> >> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> >> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> >> #
>> >> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>> >> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> >> #
>> >> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>> >> Département Informatique
>> >> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> #
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> #
>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> #
>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>> Département Informatique
>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Nicolas,
I'll review it as soon as possible.
Tommaso
2011/6/17 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Patch submitted. Let me know if I have to be more precise.
>
> Regards,
>
> /Nicolas
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello Nicolas,
> > did you already prepare the IP clearance template?
> > We usually maintain those files under our SVN website, see [1] as an
> example
> > of a former IP Clearance (see also the related thread [2]).
> > If the IP is ready you can add a patch to the website in the same Jira
> issue
> > [3] so that we can review it.
> > Regards,
> > Tommaso
> > [1]
> > :
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/xdocs/ip-clearances/
> > [2] : http://markmail.org/message/gbtph456u3445yfn
> > [3] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
> >
> > 2011/6/16 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Please tell me what can I do for it
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> >> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> Nicolas,
> >> >> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of
> >> >> helping
> >> >> you here yet.
> >> >> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
> >> >
> >> > I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
> >> > Tommaso
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Tommaso
> >> >> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi
> >> >>>
> >> >>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
> >> >>> submitted via the jira issue
> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
> >> >>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
> >> >>> Clearance processing?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best regards
> >> >>>
> >> >>> /Nicolas
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> >>> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> >> >>> >> Hello Everyone
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
> >> >>> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a
> French-Speaking
> >> >>> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP
> >> >>> >> project
> >> >>> >> since no models was available for French processing!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then
> >> >>> >> distribute
> >> >>> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right
> >> >>> >> to
> >> >>> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for.
> Now
> >> >>> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
> >> >>> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant.
> You
> >> >>> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
> >> >>> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
> >> >>> >> site.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and
> German
> >> >>> >> POS
> >> >>> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
> >> >>> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
> >> >>> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution
> ?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the
> models.
> >> >>> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available
> >> >>> >> (under
> >> >>> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
> >> >>> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also
> >> >>> >> available
> >> >>> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
> >> >>> >> uima-type-mapper).
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Regards
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> /Nicolas
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <
> kottmann@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance
> is
> >> >>> >>>> the
> >> >>> >>>> right
> >> >>> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
> >> >>> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
> >> >>> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
> >> >>> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Jörn
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> >> >>> #
> >> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> >> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> >> >>> #
> >> >>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
> >> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> >> >>> #
> >> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> >> >>> Département Informatique
> >> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> >> #
> >> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> >> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> >> #
> >> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
> >> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> >> #
> >> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> >> Département Informatique
> >> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Patch submitted. Let me know if I have to be more precise.
Regards,
/Nicolas
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Nicolas,
> did you already prepare the IP clearance template?
> We usually maintain those files under our SVN website, see [1] as an example
> of a former IP Clearance (see also the related thread [2]).
> If the IP is ready you can add a patch to the website in the same Jira issue
> [3] so that we can review it.
> Regards,
> Tommaso
> [1]
> : http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/xdocs/ip-clearances/
> [2] : http://markmail.org/message/gbtph456u3445yfn
> [3] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>
> 2011/6/16 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Please tell me what can I do for it
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Nicolas,
>> >> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of
>> >> helping
>> >> you here yet.
>> >> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
>> >
>> > I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
>> > Tommaso
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Tommaso
>> >> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
>> >>> submitted via the jira issue
>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>> >>>
>> >>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
>> >>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>> >>>
>> >>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>> >>>
>> >>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
>> >>> Clearance processing?
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards
>> >>>
>> >>> /Nicolas
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >>> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>> >>> >> Hello Everyone
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>> >>> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
>> >>> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP
>> >>> >> project
>> >>> >> since no models was available for French processing!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then
>> >>> >> distribute
>> >>> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
>> >>> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>> >>> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
>> >>> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>> >>> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
>> >>> >> site.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German
>> >>> >> POS
>> >>> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
>> >>> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
>> >>> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
>> >>> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available
>> >>> >> (under
>> >>> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
>> >>> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also
>> >>> >> available
>> >>> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>> >>> >> uima-type-mapper).
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Regards
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> /Nicolas
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is
>> >>> >>>> the
>> >>> >>>> right
>> >>> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>> >>> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>> >>> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>> >>> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Jörn
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> >>> #
>> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> >>> #
>> >>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> >>> #
>> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>> >>> Département Informatique
>> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>> #
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>> #
>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>> #
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>> Département Informatique
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>
>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hello Nicolas,
did you already prepare the IP clearance template?
We usually maintain those files under our SVN website, see [1] as an example
of a former IP Clearance (see also the related thread [2]).
If the IP is ready you can add a patch to the website in the same Jira issue
[3] so that we can review it.
Regards,
Tommaso
[1] :
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/uima/site/trunk/uima-website/xdocs/ip-clearances/
[2] : http://markmail.org/message/gbtph456u3445yfn
[3] : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
2011/6/16 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Please tell me what can I do for it
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Nicolas,
> >> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of
> helping
> >> you here yet.
> >> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
> >
> > I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
> > Tommaso
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tommaso
> >> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
> >>> submitted via the jira issue
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
> >>>
> >>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
> >>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
> >>>
> >>>
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
> >>>
> >>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
> >>>
> >>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
> >>>
> >>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
> >>> Clearance processing?
> >>>
> >>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> /Nicolas
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> >>> >> Hello Everyone
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
> >>> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
> >>> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
> >>> >> since no models was available for French processing!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then
> distribute
> >>> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
> >>> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
> >>> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
> >>> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
> >>> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
> >>> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
> >>> >> site.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German
> POS
> >>> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
> >>> >
> >>> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
> >>> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
> >>> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
> >>> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
> >>> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
> >>> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also
> available
> >>> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
> >>> >> uima-type-mapper).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Regards
> >>> >>
> >>> >> /Nicolas
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> >>>> right
> >>> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
> >>> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
> >>> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
> >>> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Jörn
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> >>> #
> >>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> >>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> >>> #
> >>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> >>> #
> >>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> >>> Département Informatique
> >>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
> #
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
> #
> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
> #
> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
> Département Informatique
> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Please tell me what can I do for it
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Nicolas,
>> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of helping
>> you here yet.
>> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
>
> I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
> Tommaso
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tommaso
>> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
>>> submitted via the jira issue
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>>
>>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
>>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>>>
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>>>
>>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>>>
>>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>>>
>>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
>>> Clearance processing?
>>>
>>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>> >> Hello Everyone
>>> >>
>>> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>>> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
>>> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
>>> >> since no models was available for French processing!
>>> >>
>>> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
>>> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
>>> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
>>> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>>> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
>>> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>>> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
>>> >> site.
>>> >>
>>> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
>>> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
>>> >
>>> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
>>> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
>>> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
>>> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
>>> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
>>> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also available
>>> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>>> >> uima-type-mapper).
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >>
>>> >> /Nicolas
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> right
>>> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>>> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>>> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>>> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jörn
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>> #
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>> #
>>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>>> #
>>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>>> Département Informatique
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>
>
>
--
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#
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http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
#
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
To let you know
I have open the following issue
"Donation of French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger"
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Nicolas,
>> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of helping
>> you here yet.
>> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
>
> I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
> Tommaso
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tommaso
>> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
>>> submitted via the jira issue
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>>
>>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
>>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>>>
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>>>
>>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>>>
>>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>>>
>>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
>>> Clearance processing?
>>>
>>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>> >> Hello Everyone
>>> >>
>>> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>>> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
>>> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
>>> >> since no models was available for French processing!
>>> >>
>>> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
>>> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
>>> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
>>> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>>> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
>>> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>>> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
>>> >> site.
>>> >>
>>> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
>>> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
>>> >
>>> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
>>> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
>>> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
>>> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
>>> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
>>> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also available
>>> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>>> >> uima-type-mapper).
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >>
>>> >> /Nicolas
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> right
>>> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>>> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>>> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>>> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jörn
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> nicolas.hernandez@univ-nantes.fr
>>> #
>>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
>>> #
>>> Laboratoire LINA-TALN CNRS UMR 6241
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
>>> #
>>> Université de Nantes - Institut Universitaire de Technologie -
>>> Département Informatique
>>> tel. +33 (0)2 40 30 60 67
>>
>
>
--
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#
http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
#
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tel. +33 (0)2 51 12 58 55
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
2011/6/15 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
> Nicolas,
> your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of helping
> you here yet.
> Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
>
I see it's been recorded, so I think we can proceed.
Tommaso
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
> 2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
>> submitted via the jira issue
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>>
>> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
>> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>>
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>>
>> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>>
>> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>>
>> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
>> Clearance processing?
>>
>> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>> >> Hello Everyone
>> >>
>> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
>> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
>> >> since no models was available for French processing!
>> >>
>> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
>> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
>> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
>> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
>> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
>> >> site.
>> >>
>> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
>> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
>> >
>> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
>> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
>> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
>> >>
>> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
>> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
>> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
>> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also available
>> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>> >> uima-type-mapper).
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> /Nicolas
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is the
>> >>>> right
>> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
>> >>>
>> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jörn
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> #
>> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
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>> #
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>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Nicolas,
your post on opennlp-user@ made me realize we didn't take care of helping
you here yet.
Did you get the ACK for your SGA?
Regards,
Tommaso
2011/5/26 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Hi
>
> French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
> submitted via the jira issue
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
>
> Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
> Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
>
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
>
> The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
>
> I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
>
> Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
> Clearance processing?
>
> I hope I have nothing forgotten.
>
> Best regards
>
> /Nicolas
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> >> Hello Everyone
> >>
> >> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
> >> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
> >> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
> >> since no models was available for French processing!
> >>
> >> About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
> >> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
> >> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
> >> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
> >> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
> >> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
> >> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
> >> site.
> >>
> >> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
> >> models are not freely available, are they ?
> >
> > The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
> > The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
> >
> >>
> >> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
> >> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
> >>
> >> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
> >> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
> >> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
> >> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also available
> >> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
> >> uima-type-mapper).
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> /Nicolas
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is the
> >>>> right
> >>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
> >>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
> >>> code changes and bug fixes.
> >>>
> >>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
> >>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
> >>>
> >>> Jörn
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> #
> http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
> http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi
French data models for the Apache UIMA Sandbox HMM Tagger have been
submitted via the jira issue
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2146
Documentation on the procedure to build the models from the French
Treebank can be found here (accidentally it is in French...)
http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com/2011/05/construire-des-modelisations-du-french.html
The SLA has been sent and we are waiting for receiving the ack.
I have prepared an IP form but have not right to commit it...
Finaly is there an "appropriate volunter" for executing the IP
Clearance processing?
I hope I have nothing forgotten.
Best regards
/Nicolas
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>> Hello Everyone
>>
>> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
>> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
>> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
>> since no models was available for French processing!
>>
>> About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
>> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
>> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
>> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
>> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
>> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
>> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
>> site.
>>
>> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
>> models are not freely available, are they ?
>
> The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
> The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>
>>
>> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
>> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
>>
>> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
>> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
>> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
>> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also available
>> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
>> uima-type-mapper).
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is the
>>>> right
>>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>>> code changes and bug fixes.
>>>
>>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>>>
>>> Jörn
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Thilo Götz <tw...@gmx.de>.
On 5/19/2011 15:04, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Hello Everyone
>
> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
> since no models was available for French processing!
>
> About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
> site.
>
> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
> models are not freely available, are they ?
The English model was trained on the Brown corpus, which is free.
The German model was trained on a non-free corpus.
>
> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
>
> Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
> There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
> AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
> Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also available
> on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
> uima-type-mapper).
>
> Regards
>
> /Nicolas
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>
>>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is the
>>> right
>>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>>>
>>
>> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
>> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
>> code changes and bug fixes.
>>
>> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
>> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>>
>> Jörn
>>
>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
On 5/19/11 3:04 PM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Hello Everyone
>
> Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
> Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
> UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
> since no models was available for French processing!
>
That would be really nice, we would love to get this contribution. Over
at OpenNLP we have special parser for different corpus formats, maybe we can
integrate your parsing code for the French corpus there. Then we can
train our components
on this data.
OpenNLP also comes with an UIMA integration, which makes all components
(expect coref)
available to UIMA applications.
> About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
> them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
> do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
> they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
> (http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
> may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
> letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
> site.
>
It would be nice if the data can be shared between the OpenNLP developers,
and we of course would need to distribute the model under AL 2.0, but
just having the integration code would also be nice, because it looks like
everyone can easily get a copy of that corpus.
> As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
> models are not freely available, are they ?
>
> Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
> clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
In the end the big issue for UIMA developers is that we cannot retrain the
tagger without having the training data. Not be able to retrain means,
that we are not able to change the code much. So in the end that is a big
issue for us. I dealt with this kind of issues a lot over at OpenNLP and it
is just painful.
And even when we follow your description to retrain the models, do we
then have the right to publish it under AL 2.0 or do we need to go
through IP clearance
again, because the AL 2.0 publishing is an agreement between you and the
corpus copyright holder?
I think having an agreement which grants rights to the ASF to publish
the models trained on the
data under AL 2.0 is what we need, and it would also be nice if every
committer in the team could
get access to the data.
Anyway, hope to see you over at the OpenNLP mailing list.
Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hello Everyone
Jörn, yes it (training MaxEnt models for OpenNLP from the French
Treebank) is actually part of our plan (building a French-Speaking
UIMA Community). We wanted also to contribute to the OpenNLP project
since no models was available for French processing!
About the right to train models on this data set and then distribute
them under Apache License 2: It took time for us to get the right to
do it, but I think it was because we were the first to ask for. Now
they know about it. I know that the maltparser team
(http://maltparser.org/) would be also interested by the grant. You
may ask for the French Treebank authors. I can also ask them for
letting an explicit mention about the right to do it on their web
site.
As far as I know, the data training set for the English and German POS
models are not freely available, are they ?
Eventually, Jörn, I m not sure to understand. Do you think the IP
clearance process is not adapted for submitting our contribution ?
Tommaso, I will blog post the procedure I used to train the models.
There is nothing really special. I used some freely available (under
AL2) AE components. The HMM learner is already present in the HMM
Tagger addon. The few other UIMA components I used are also available
on some google forges (uima-common, uima-connectors,
uima-type-mapper).
Regards
/Nicolas
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>
>> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is the
>> right
>> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>>
>
> In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
> to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
> code changes and bug fixes.
>
> Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
> data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
>
> Jörn
>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
On 5/19/11 9:00 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is the right
> way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>
In my opinion it is very important that we have the possibility
to retrain the models on the data set, otherwise it will block
code changes and bug fixes.
Therefore I think we need the right to train models on this
data set and then distribute them under AL 2.0.
Jörn
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hello Nicolas,
2011/5/18 Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Dear All,
>
> I come back one year later...
>
> To remind you, we used a French Treebank corpus
> (http://www.llf.cnrs.fr/Gens/Abeille/French-Treebank-fr.php) to train
> models for processing French with the HMM tagger addon.
> I first contacted you for some advices since we did not own the
> resource we used and we were not sure to be allowed to distribute our
> models under Apache license. We were discussing about with the
> resource owner and we though that an alternative way to distribute the
> models we trained could be to jointly submit the models.
>
> Eventually, we got the grant from the owner to distribute the models
> we built up under the Apache License v2.
>
> In short, we built up French models for part of speech (pos),
> morphological (mph) and function grammatical (fct) tagging, as well as
> lemmatization (lemma). We use the Hmm tagger to perform the various
> tagging. A recent patch has been submitted to turn the Hmm tagger into
> a less type system dependant tagger.
> See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2110
as I said in my last comment it'd be also nice to see some documentation on
how you created the models so that more users can create models with it.
>
>
> Before submitting the models to the project, I have some new
> questions. As a researcher it is important for us that our work be
> cited by other researchers. In addition, the models are only a few
> files but they represent a substantial contribution for the French
> Natural Language Processing community.
>
> So I was wondering whether you still advise me to perform the IP
> clearance procedure or just to add a specific mention in the NOTICE
> file.
>
If you also plan to donate the models I think the IP clearance is the right
way both for UIMA and for you as a researcher.
>
> In the first case, could you find me an "appropriate volunter" for
> executing the IP Clearance processing?
>
I am working on the UIMA Addons RC2 so can't do it right now but, if no one
is available before that time, I could help you once UIMA Addons release is
done.
>
> Another "substantial" question... our model files takes about 5 Mo
> each (pos, mph and fct) except the lemma model file which takes 24 Mo.
> Alternatively we built up a merged model for pos, mph and fct which
> takes 6.9 Mo. Do you thing it may cause a problem if we submit all of
> them?
>
I don't see any issue with that sizes so, in my opinion, the models can all
be submitted separately.
Regards,
Tommaso
>
> Best regards
>
> /Nicolas
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
> To: dev@uima.apache.org
>
>
> Thilo, we would like to submit a language model which was trained on a
> French Treebank corpus for the tagger addon. We do not own the
> treebank corpus we used. We are in discussion with her owner to know
> if we still respect the treebank License by distributing a model built
> on it under the Apache License.
> We though that an alternative way to distribute the model we trained
> could be to jointly submit the model with the owner of the treebank.
>
> Marshal, I will consult all the links you mention and come back if
> necessary
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 11/4/2010 5:06 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
> >> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
> >> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
> >> commit ?
> >> I do not find any information on this subject on
> >> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
> >> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
> >>
> >> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
> >> Agreement" to the ASF
> >
> > Each person has to have an "Individual Contributor License Agreement" on
> file
> > with the ASF (and, if appropriate, a Corporate Contribution License
> Agreement
> > (see http://www.apache.org/licenses/ and search for Corporate CLA).
> >
> > When you post the contribution, attach it to a Jira and state in the Jira
> itself
> > what you are doing, including granting the ASF a license under the Apache
> > Software License version 2.0).
> >
> > If the contribution represents "substantial" work developed outside of
> the ASF's
> > normal process, it will need to go through the IP clearance process, as
> Tommaso
> > described.
> >> and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
> >> contribution the complete attribution ?
> >
> > Here's info to what goes in the Notice file:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
> >
> > and here's a link which says that the ASF prefers if the contributors do
> not put
> > individual copyright statements into the file:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#contributor-copyright -
> linking to
> > this in particular about moving existing copyright from source into the
> Notice file:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#header-existingcopyright
> >
> > Does this answer your question?
> >
> > -Marshall Schor
> >> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >> /Nicolas
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Dear All,
I come back one year later...
To remind you, we used a French Treebank corpus
(http://www.llf.cnrs.fr/Gens/Abeille/French-Treebank-fr.php) to train
models for processing French with the HMM tagger addon.
I first contacted you for some advices since we did not own the
resource we used and we were not sure to be allowed to distribute our
models under Apache license. We were discussing about with the
resource owner and we though that an alternative way to distribute the
models we trained could be to jointly submit the models.
Eventually, we got the grant from the owner to distribute the models
we built up under the Apache License v2.
In short, we built up French models for part of speech (pos),
morphological (mph) and function grammatical (fct) tagging, as well as
lemmatization (lemma). We use the Hmm tagger to perform the various
tagging. A recent patch has been submitted to turn the Hmm tagger into
a less type system dependant tagger.
See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-2110
Before submitting the models to the project, I have some new
questions. As a researcher it is important for us that our work be
cited by other researchers. In addition, the models are only a few
files but they represent a substantial contribution for the French
Natural Language Processing community.
So I was wondering whether you still advise me to perform the IP
clearance procedure or just to add a specific mention in the NOTICE
file.
In the first case, could you find me an "appropriate volunter" for
executing the IP Clearance processing?
Another "substantial" question... our model files takes about 5 Mo
each (pos, mph and fct) except the lemma model file which takes 24 Mo.
Alternatively we built up a merged model for pos, mph and fct which
takes 6.9 Mo. Do you thing it may cause a problem if we submit all of
them?
Best regards
/Nicolas
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
To: dev@uima.apache.org
Thilo, we would like to submit a language model which was trained on a
French Treebank corpus for the tagger addon. We do not own the
treebank corpus we used. We are in discussion with her owner to know
if we still respect the treebank License by distributing a model built
on it under the Apache License.
We though that an alternative way to distribute the model we trained
could be to jointly submit the model with the owner of the treebank.
Marshal, I will consult all the links you mention and come back if necessary
Thanks
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/4/2010 5:06 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
>> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
>> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
>> commit ?
>> I do not find any information on this subject on
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
>> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
>>
>> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
>> Agreement" to the ASF
>
> Each person has to have an "Individual Contributor License Agreement" on file
> with the ASF (and, if appropriate, a Corporate Contribution License Agreement
> (see http://www.apache.org/licenses/ and search for Corporate CLA).
>
> When you post the contribution, attach it to a Jira and state in the Jira itself
> what you are doing, including granting the ASF a license under the Apache
> Software License version 2.0).
>
> If the contribution represents "substantial" work developed outside of the ASF's
> normal process, it will need to go through the IP clearance process, as Tommaso
> described.
>> and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
>> contribution the complete attribution ?
>
> Here's info to what goes in the Notice file:
>
> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
>
> and here's a link which says that the ASF prefers if the contributors do not put
> individual copyright statements into the file:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#contributor-copyright - linking to
> this in particular about moving existing copyright from source into the Notice file:
>
> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#header-existingcopyright
>
> Does this answer your question?
>
> -Marshall Schor
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
Great! Thanks for helping to build the French UIMA community :-). -Marshall
On 11/4/2010 6:28 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Thilo, we would like to submit a language model which was trained on a
> French Treebank corpus for the tagger addon. We do not own the
> treebank corpus we used. We are in discussion with her owner to know
> if we still respect the treebank License by distributing a model built
> on it under the Apache License.
> We though that an alternative way to distribute the model we trained
> could be to jointly submit the model with the owner of the treebank.
>
> Marshal, I will consult all the links you mention and come back if necessary
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/4/2010 5:06 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
>>> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
>>> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
>>> commit ?
>>> I do not find any information on this subject on
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
>>> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
>>>
>>> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
>>> Agreement" to the ASF
>> Each person has to have an "Individual Contributor License Agreement" on file
>> with the ASF (and, if appropriate, a Corporate Contribution License Agreement
>> (see http://www.apache.org/licenses/ and search for Corporate CLA).
>>
>> When you post the contribution, attach it to a Jira and state in the Jira itself
>> what you are doing, including granting the ASF a license under the Apache
>> Software License version 2.0).
>>
>> If the contribution represents "substantial" work developed outside of the ASF's
>> normal process, it will need to go through the IP clearance process, as Tommaso
>> described.
>>> and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
>>> contribution the complete attribution ?
>> Here's info to what goes in the Notice file:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
>>
>> and here's a link which says that the ASF prefers if the contributors do not put
>> individual copyright statements into the file:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#contributor-copyright - linking to
>> this in particular about moving existing copyright from source into the Notice file:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#header-existingcopyright
>>
>> Does this answer your question?
>>
>> -Marshall Schor
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>
>
Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Thilo, we would like to submit a language model which was trained on a
French Treebank corpus for the tagger addon. We do not own the
treebank corpus we used. We are in discussion with her owner to know
if we still respect the treebank License by distributing a model built
on it under the Apache License.
We though that an alternative way to distribute the model we trained
could be to jointly submit the model with the owner of the treebank.
Marshal, I will consult all the links you mention and come back if necessary
Thanks
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/4/2010 5:06 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
>> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
>> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
>> commit ?
>> I do not find any information on this subject on
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
>> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
>>
>> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
>> Agreement" to the ASF
>
> Each person has to have an "Individual Contributor License Agreement" on file
> with the ASF (and, if appropriate, a Corporate Contribution License Agreement
> (see http://www.apache.org/licenses/ and search for Corporate CLA).
>
> When you post the contribution, attach it to a Jira and state in the Jira itself
> what you are doing, including granting the ASF a license under the Apache
> Software License version 2.0).
>
> If the contribution represents "substantial" work developed outside of the ASF's
> normal process, it will need to go through the IP clearance process, as Tommaso
> described.
>> and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
>> contribution the complete attribution ?
>
> Here's info to what goes in the Notice file:
>
> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
>
> and here's a link which says that the ASF prefers if the contributors do not put
> individual copyright statements into the file:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#contributor-copyright - linking to
> this in particular about moving existing copyright from source into the Notice file:
>
> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#header-existingcopyright
>
> Does this answer your question?
>
> -Marshall Schor
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>
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Re: Guidelines for a mutual contribution
Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
On 11/4/2010 5:06 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Hi
>
> Can someone indicate me where to find some guidelines to commit a
> mutual contribution? In other words, how to proceed when there is two
> developers or corporations involved in a work they would like to
> commit ?
> I do not find any information on this subject on
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/ neither on
> http://uima.apache.org/contribution-policy.html
>
> Do we have to submit each of us an "Individual Contributor License
> Agreement" to the ASF
Each person has to have an "Individual Contributor License Agreement" on file
with the ASF (and, if appropriate, a Corporate Contribution License Agreement
(see http://www.apache.org/licenses/ and search for Corporate CLA).
When you post the contribution, attach it to a Jira and state in the Jira itself
what you are doing, including granting the ASF a license under the Apache
Software License version 2.0).
If the contribution represents "substantial" work developed outside of the ASF's
normal process, it will need to go through the IP clearance process, as Tommaso
described.
> and specify clearly in the NOTICE file of our
> contribution the complete attribution ?
Here's info to what goes in the Notice file:
http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
and here's a link which says that the ASF prefers if the contributors do not put
individual copyright statements into the file:
http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#contributor-copyright - linking to
this in particular about moving existing copyright from source into the Notice file:
http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#header-existingcopyright
Does this answer your question?
-Marshall Schor
> Thanks in advance
>
> /Nicolas
>