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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah opened a new issue, #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Feggah opened a new issue, #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269
### Search before asking
- [X] I had searched in the [issues](https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues?q=is%3Aissue) and found no similar feature requirement.
### Use case
In the Accelerate book (one of the main books about measuring performance and DORA metrics), the authors explain about some technical practices (Chapter 4) to increase performance.
One of the capabilities that impact on Continuous Delivery (thus, performance) is using trunk-based development as opposed to long-lived feature branches.
This means that, teams could try to use trunk-based development to increase their performance, and should be able to see the difference that it is making to their performance.
As DevLake is a project in the scope of DORA metrics, it is important to support trunk-based development when measuring velocity metrics (in particular, Lead Time).
### Description
Reading the documentation [DORA - Median Lead Time for Changes](https://devlake.apache.org/docs/Metrics/LeadTimeForChanges), I noticed that if a commit is not associated with any Pull Request, it won't be taken into consideration to calculate the Lead Time:
### Related issues
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### Are you willing to submit a PR?
- [ ] Yes I am willing to submit a PR!
### Code of Conduct
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] github-actions[bot] closed issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
Posted by "Feggah (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1766836003
I see, probably this would work indeed @klesh.
I will cc some people here who are probably more involved in the need for the feature and could add more context if needed
cc @dgmorales @cnatan @pimguilherme @renatocmaia
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1767785084
@Feggah that is very thoughtful, thanks
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "Feggah (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1719748288
Sure, so in the context of not using PRs a Change would be something similar to "git push", right?
So if someone pushes 5 commits at the same time, the First Commit that is going to be used as the start time.
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Startrekzky commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "Startrekzky (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Startrekzky commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1729472106
Hi @Feggah @KlemenDanfoss , may I know your
- team size
- and why you chose the trunk-based development model?
- and what Git tool(s) do you use?
I'm gathering more contexts to think of a proper solution for this issue. Thank you in advance.
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "Feggah (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1716276690
It is similar to how it works with PRs. It will be the difference between the first commit time and the deployment time. The first commit would be considered the first commit that hasn't deployed yet.
It is the same as how it works today, but just removing the PR requirement from the equation.
In practice for trunk-based development, almost all commits triggers a deployment because the commits are going to be pushed directly into the main branch.
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
Posted by "Feggah (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1764373866
@klesh Where can I see it?
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] klesh commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1714893292
@Feggah How do we define the Lead Time for Trunk-Based development? When are the start and end time?
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "Feggah (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1664073131
@klesh Yes, DevLake would be able to calculate Lead Time with commits made directly into the main branch
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "Feggah (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1730204033
> team size
I'm not currently in the same team that I was before, but the tech department of the company was ~2000 employees. My team specifically had 8 people.
> and why you chose the trunk-based development model?
My team wasn't doing trunk-based development. We were offering DevLake as a solution in the company, and one of the teams that were using it requested support for trunk-based, so I can't help much in answering this question.
> and what Git tool(s) do you use?
Git CLI and GitHub.
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] klesh commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1720718596
@Feggah Yes, that is what I have in mind. Does it make sense to you?
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] klesh commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1663330010
@KlemenDanfoss @Feggah Thanks for following up on the issue. I was not familiar with the trunk-based development model, so I did some research on it, seems like it doesn't have PRs to represent a Code Change in the process.
So, If I understand it correctly, should we treat each Commit just like PR and calculate the Lead Time based on it?
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "Feggah (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1719340321
> we should take the First Commit of the Change for Lead Time calculation, correct?
Yes, that's correct.
> if a developer pushes multiple commits at once, it would be considered one Change, correct?
What do you mean by Change? Is it a concept different from Commit?
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] klesh commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1724865033
@KlemenDanfoss No, not really. For #5996 , the problem is that `issues` are missing.
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "KlemenDanfoss (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1733071362
> Hi @Feggah @KlemenDanfoss , may I know your
>
> * team size
> * and why you chose the trunk-based development model?
> * and what Git tool(s) do you use?
>
> I'm gathering more contexts to think of a proper solution for this issue. Thank you in advance.
Hi,
- 15 developers
- analysis showed that trunk-based development suits our team better (it terms of rapid development)
- azure git repos, git, vs code with git extension
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "KlemenDanfoss (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1602226117
Hi
we use Azure Devops (board, pipelines) and Azure Repos. We also use trunk based development.
I integrated devlake (latest beta version of 0.17) with our account and I get metrics for 'deployment frequency' and 'Change failure rate' but nothing for 'Median lead time for changes'.
I wanted to open a bug but then found this - so this is related to us using trunk based development?
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
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KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1722854510
@klesh is this (also) related to #5996 ?
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
Posted by "KlemenDanfoss (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1862240388
@klesh , anything new here?
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] yumengwang03 commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
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yumengwang03 commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1560666935
Thanks for submitting this feature request! We will take this into discussion.
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
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Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1721302265
Yes! 🙂
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] klesh commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1716791689
@Feggah Thanks for the explanation. Just to clarify, if a developer pushes multiple commits at once, it would be considered one Change, correct? and we should take the **First Commit** of the Change for Lead Time calculation, correct?
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1862394986
@KlemenDanfoss The #6103 is the most promising solution to the problem, you may share your thoughts, vote the issue there.
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1765594511
@Feggah Sorry, https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/6103
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] Feggah commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
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Feggah commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1561104835
@hezyin Could you point me where this feature should be implemented? Is it part of a plugin?
I'm willing to help implement this feature, I just need some general guidance because I'm not familiar with DevLake deeper technical details
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
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KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1665046737
Does it make any difference if that commit is done through a PR?
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
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KlemenDanfoss commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1657716012
@yumengwang03 - any news on this?
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Re: [I] [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation [incubator-devlake]
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1759050957
Hi, @Feggah , I'm proposing a solution for your use case, would you like to see if it can solve your problem or if anything is missing? Thanks.
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[GitHub] [incubator-devlake] klesh commented on issue #5269: [Feature][DORA?] Support trunk-based development in Lead Time calculation
Posted by "klesh (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
klesh commented on issue #5269:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-devlake/issues/5269#issuecomment-1719622978
@Feggah Oh, A change is a PR in my mind, and a PR could contains multiple commits to make a Change, I thought `First Commit` represent the first one of a change/PR.
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