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Posted to pluto-dev@portals.apache.org by Stefan Hepper <st...@apache.org> on 2007/05/14 06:52:41 UTC
When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Guys,
the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing the current
draft of JSR 286.
Until now there was no feedback on the design or implemention.
Are you just waiting until everything is complete and than dump it into
a 2.0 branch or what is the current plan?
Stefan
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by Dettborn <de...@minet.uni-jena.de>.
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CDoremus@hannaford.com schrieb:
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> Thank you, Torsten, for your reply.
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> Can you tell us what JSR-286 features have already been implemented
> and committed to the 1.1-286-COMPATIBILITY branch and what features
> still need to be implemented? This will allow us to figure out the
> testsuite tests that need to be created.
Hello,
we have implemented the shared render parameter, resource serving,
eventing, a part of the new dispatcher. I hope that this week the part
for the portlet filter is finished, so we can start with the cc/pp
implementation. After that we want to view into each chapter of the
specification, so we can see what have to be implemented. For all this
features we can open a jira issue, if this is ok.
Torsten
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> sorry for the late answer, but our mail-server broke down. First i
> want to say is, in future i wants to work on the pluto 2.0 project,
> so that i can answer questions about the design. It is a good idea
> to implement the tests in the portal at is done the last time.
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> Torsten
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> Stefan Hepper schrieb:
>> Guys, the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing
>> the current draft of JSR 286. Until now there was no feedback on
>> the design or implemention. Are you just waiting until everything
>> is complete and than dump it into a 2.0 branch or what is the
>> current plan?
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>> Stefan
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Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by CD...@hannaford.com.
Thank you, Torsten, for your reply.
Can you tell us what JSR-286 features have already been implemented and
committed to the 1.1-286-COMPATIBILITY branch and what features still need
to be implemented? This will allow us to figure out the testsuite tests
that need to be created.
/Craig
Dettborn <de...@minet.uni-jena.de>
05/21/2007 03:02 AM
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Hello,
sorry for the late answer, but our mail-server broke down. First i
want to say is, in future i wants to work on the pluto 2.0 project, so
that i can answer questions about the design.
It is a good idea to implement the tests in the portal at is done the
last time.
Torsten
Stefan Hepper schrieb:
> Guys,
> the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing the
> current draft of JSR 286.
> Until now there was no feedback on the design or implemention.
> Are you just waiting until everything is complete and than dump it
> into a 2.0 branch or what is the current plan?
>
> Stefan
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Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by Dettborn <de...@minet.uni-jena.de>.
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Hello,
sorry for the late answer, but our mail-server broke down. First i
want to say is, in future i wants to work on the pluto 2.0 project, so
that i can answer questions about the design.
It is a good idea to implement the tests in the portal at is done the
last time.
Torsten
Stefan Hepper schrieb:
> Guys,
> the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing the
> current draft of JSR 286.
> Until now there was no feedback on the design or implemention.
> Are you just waiting until everything is complete and than dump it
> into a 2.0 branch or what is the current plan?
>
> Stefan
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Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
David H. DeWolf wrote:
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> I know I sound like a broken record, but I really think that discussions
> on this list about the design choices and progress being made would
> really help to peak interest and provide some avenues for oversight.
> There was a bit of it about jaxb which I thought was very healthy and
> resulted in several people chiming in, however, not other aspect of the
> implementation has been addressed.
>
Big +1
Carsten
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by Elliot Metsger <em...@jhu.edu>.
David Sean Taylor wrote:
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> On May 16, 2007, at 6:12 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
>
>> What do others think?
> So the code is being developed in another repository, and then it will
> be moved into Apache 'all at once'
Actually the code is being developed in the Apache repository as a
branch of Pluto:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/portals/pluto/branches/1.1-286-COMPATIBILITY
> I would assume this is a "code donation" then.
The 286 code is being applied as patches committed by portals committers
- here's a link to the thread:
http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=6077312&framed=y
> Will the developers get committer rights to Pluto or will they just go
> away...
I don't know ...
> Sorry, late comer to this discussion, excuse me if I am asking dumb
> questions
No problem :-)
Elliot
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
On May 16, 2007, at 6:12 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
> Stefan,
>
> I'd like to see it sooner rather than later, but unfortunately
> there just hasn't been much activity around it. I personally don't
> have the time right now to review all of the progress and make sure
> that the community has the proper oversight. I have been looking
> at things as they come in and and things look like they are moving
> in a solid direction. I would have no problem if (and would
> actually encourage) another committer wanted to help drive the
> process towards 2.0.
>
> I know I sound like a broken record, but I really think that
> discussions on this list about the design choices and progress
> being made would really help to peak interest and provide some
> avenues for oversight. There was a bit of it about jaxb which I
> thought was very healthy and resulted in several people chiming in,
> however, not other aspect of the implementation has been addressed.
>
> What do others think?
>
So the code is being developed in another repository, and then it
will be moved into Apache 'all at once'
I would assume this is a "code donation" then.
Will the developers get committer rights to Pluto or will they just
go away...
Sorry, late comer to this discussion, excuse me if I am asking dumb
questions
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by Elliot Metsger <em...@jhu.edu>.
Elliot Metsger wrote:
> There are three open issues, one of which has a patch (PLUTO-308 -
> Jaxb).
My bad - I started using Mylar and the query was busted... so there are
more open pending issues than I thought :-)
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by CD...@hannaford.com.
Thank you, Elliot, for you enthusiasm and offer to help.
I'd like to see the trunk be merged into the 286 branch. I think the
issues that Stefan reported with Preferences and PreferenceValidator would
be fixed by doing that. I also believe that there are a number of fixes
and enhancements in the trunk that the 286 branch should have. Before that
is done there needs to be tests created in the testsuites to test critical
286 functionality (eventing, filters, shared render parameters, etc).
These tests will confirm that the merging does not break anything. I will
add issues to Jira on this.
I probably missed the discussion, but I see a 1.2 category in Jira to
support Java 5 and JAXB in a 1.2 version of Pluto. FWIW, I'm in favor of
moving this stuff into Pluto 2.0, which the 286 branch should become once
we are confident in its design and stability.
I am pretty booked right now, but I will try to make some time to help
when I can.
/Craig
Elliot Metsger <em...@jhu.edu>
05/18/2007 03:19 PM
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Ok,
I have some time. What is the game plan for moving forward?
There are three open issues, one of which has a patch (PLUTO-308 -
Jaxb). There are a number of resolved or closed issues.
What is being suggested?
1) Review/implement the remaining issues?
2) Do we review the changes in the already closed issues?
Once that is done - tests pass, etc, promote the branch to trunk?
Elliot
CDoremus@hannaford.com wrote:
> David,
>
> Yes, the Univ of Jena group has not done a good job in communicating
their
> design decisions to the mailing list. But we should also admit that we
> have dropped the ball in our code review and helping them do the
commits.
> I am particularly disappointed in the people who complained loudly about
> the process when we initially discussed it, but seemed to have
disappeared
> thereafter.
>
> I too would like to see Pluto 2.0 move forward, but do not have a lot of
> time to devote to it now. Perhaps we will get more activity when our
> container users see a stable JSR-286 spec and decide that it is time for
> them to move toward supporting it.
> /Craig
>
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> "David H. DeWolf" <dd...@apache.org>
> 05/16/2007 09:12 AM
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> Stefan,
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> I'd like to see it sooner rather than later, but unfortunately there
> just hasn't been much activity around it. I personally don't have the
> time right now to review all of the progress and make sure that the
> community has the proper oversight. I have been looking at things as
> they come in and and things look like they are moving in a solid
> direction. I would have no problem if (and would actually encourage)
> another committer wanted to help drive the process towards 2.0.
>
> I know I sound like a broken record, but I really think that discussions
> on this list about the design choices and progress being made would
> really help to peak interest and provide some avenues for oversight.
> There was a bit of it about jaxb which I thought was very healthy and
> resulted in several people chiming in, however, not other aspect of the
> implementation has been addressed.
>
> What do others think?
>
> David
>
> Stefan Hepper wrote:
>> Guys,
>> the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing the current
>> draft of JSR 286.
>> Until now there was no feedback on the design or implemention.
>> Are you just waiting until everything is complete and than dump it into
>> a 2.0 branch or what is the current plan?
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>
>
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by Elliot Metsger <em...@jhu.edu>.
Ok,
I have some time. What is the game plan for moving forward?
There are three open issues, one of which has a patch (PLUTO-308 -
Jaxb). There are a number of resolved or closed issues.
What is being suggested?
1) Review/implement the remaining issues?
2) Do we review the changes in the already closed issues?
Once that is done - tests pass, etc, promote the branch to trunk?
Elliot
CDoremus@hannaford.com wrote:
> David,
>
> Yes, the Univ of Jena group has not done a good job in communicating their
> design decisions to the mailing list. But we should also admit that we
> have dropped the ball in our code review and helping them do the commits.
> I am particularly disappointed in the people who complained loudly about
> the process when we initially discussed it, but seemed to have disappeared
> thereafter.
>
> I too would like to see Pluto 2.0 move forward, but do not have a lot of
> time to devote to it now. Perhaps we will get more activity when our
> container users see a stable JSR-286 spec and decide that it is time for
> them to move toward supporting it.
> /Craig
>
>
>
>
>
> "David H. DeWolf" <dd...@apache.org>
> 05/16/2007 09:12 AM
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> Stefan,
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> I'd like to see it sooner rather than later, but unfortunately there
> just hasn't been much activity around it. I personally don't have the
> time right now to review all of the progress and make sure that the
> community has the proper oversight. I have been looking at things as
> they come in and and things look like they are moving in a solid
> direction. I would have no problem if (and would actually encourage)
> another committer wanted to help drive the process towards 2.0.
>
> I know I sound like a broken record, but I really think that discussions
> on this list about the design choices and progress being made would
> really help to peak interest and provide some avenues for oversight.
> There was a bit of it about jaxb which I thought was very healthy and
> resulted in several people chiming in, however, not other aspect of the
> implementation has been addressed.
>
> What do others think?
>
> David
>
> Stefan Hepper wrote:
>> Guys,
>> the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing the current
>> draft of JSR 286.
>> Until now there was no feedback on the design or implemention.
>> Are you just waiting until everything is complete and than dump it into
>> a 2.0 branch or what is the current plan?
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>
>
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by CD...@hannaford.com.
David,
Yes, the Univ of Jena group has not done a good job in communicating their
design decisions to the mailing list. But we should also admit that we
have dropped the ball in our code review and helping them do the commits.
I am particularly disappointed in the people who complained loudly about
the process when we initially discussed it, but seemed to have disappeared
thereafter.
I too would like to see Pluto 2.0 move forward, but do not have a lot of
time to devote to it now. Perhaps we will get more activity when our
container users see a stable JSR-286 spec and decide that it is time for
them to move toward supporting it.
/Craig
"David H. DeWolf" <dd...@apache.org>
05/16/2007 09:12 AM
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Stefan,
I'd like to see it sooner rather than later, but unfortunately there
just hasn't been much activity around it. I personally don't have the
time right now to review all of the progress and make sure that the
community has the proper oversight. I have been looking at things as
they come in and and things look like they are moving in a solid
direction. I would have no problem if (and would actually encourage)
another committer wanted to help drive the process towards 2.0.
I know I sound like a broken record, but I really think that discussions
on this list about the design choices and progress being made would
really help to peak interest and provide some avenues for oversight.
There was a bit of it about jaxb which I thought was very healthy and
resulted in several people chiming in, however, not other aspect of the
implementation has been addressed.
What do others think?
David
Stefan Hepper wrote:
> Guys,
> the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing the current
> draft of JSR 286.
> Until now there was no feedback on the design or implemention.
> Are you just waiting until everything is complete and than dump it into
> a 2.0 branch or what is the current plan?
>
> Stefan
>
>
Re: When will the pluto 2.0 branch start?
Posted by "David H. DeWolf" <dd...@apache.org>.
Stefan,
I'd like to see it sooner rather than later, but unfortunately there
just hasn't been much activity around it. I personally don't have the
time right now to review all of the progress and make sure that the
community has the proper oversight. I have been looking at things as
they come in and and things look like they are moving in a solid
direction. I would have no problem if (and would actually encourage)
another committer wanted to help drive the process towards 2.0.
I know I sound like a broken record, but I really think that discussions
on this list about the design choices and progress being made would
really help to peak interest and provide some avenues for oversight.
There was a bit of it about jaxb which I thought was very healthy and
resulted in several people chiming in, however, not other aspect of the
implementation has been addressed.
What do others think?
David
Stefan Hepper wrote:
> Guys,
> the University of Jena will soon have finished implementing the current
> draft of JSR 286.
> Until now there was no feedback on the design or implemention.
> Are you just waiting until everything is complete and than dump it into
> a 2.0 branch or what is the current plan?
>
> Stefan
>
>