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Posted to dev@oodt.apache.org by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> on 2013/05/16 17:37:22 UTC
Re: JIRA label for new users
Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for peeps) :)
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
<de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: JIRA label for new users
>I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I figured it
>warranted being sent here as well!
>
>http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
>
>TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new users
>could
>help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough that a new user could
>figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
>
>This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team doesn't
>want
>to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple auxiliary issues that
>won't take forever to debug/implement but that the core team doesn't
>necessarily have time to deal with.
>
>I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this would have
>been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be great to have a section
>devoted to "getting started" on the website that mentions this as well.
>Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and help. I
>would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
>
>Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
>
>-- Joyce
Re: JIRA label for new users
Posted by Cameron Goodale <go...@apache.org>.
Mike,
Your list of tags + meaning works for me.
+1
-Cameron
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 on this Gavin.
>
> Re. actual label names, how about a name followed by an (explanation) of
> the difficulty level:
>
> Don't Know
> Newcomer (Easy) - Everyone can do this level
> Committer (Medium) - This is for regular contributors/committers. Where the
> vast majority of issues would fall.
> Expert (Hard) or Guru or ChrisMattmann or whatever everyone likes for
> "hard" - Used sparingly when an issue requires expert component knowledge
>
> We could default the field to "Don't Know" so every issue always has some
> level?
>
> I like the CouchDB approach but I feel they have too many options.
> Easy
> Easy - Medium
> Medium - Hard
> Really Really Hard (Their Guru level)
>
> So, when something is "Medium," which category does it fall into? I think
> the most important part of this system is identifying the difficulty for
> newcomers. The other levels are just nice to have in my opinion. That being
> said, I think simpler is better here.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
>
> -- Joyce
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rajith Siriwardana <
> rajithsiriwardana@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 for having a label for issues that new users can help to resolve.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels
> > > meaningful.
> > >
> > > Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > > Senior Computer Scientist
> > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > > Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
> > > Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
> > > "gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > > Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM
> > > To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
> > > Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J) [mailto:
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
> > > >> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
> > > >> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
> > > >>
> > > >> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for
> peeps)
> > :)
> > > >
> > > >We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an
> agreed
> > > >and
> > > >documented set
> > > >of labels. Why? Too many labels and we run the risk of there being too
> > > >many
> > > >and they sort of
> > > >Lose the impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
> > > >grabbing is needed.
> > > >
> > > >Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
> > > >
> > > >However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom fields
> to
> > > >our
> > > >issues. Some projects
> > > >have done such a thing, some, like the couchdb project, have
> > implemented a
> > > >drop down field in
> > > >their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket is
> > > >newcomer, contributor, committer,
> > > >hardcore project guru or Greg Stein level. (OK so I made that last
> > level
> > > >up, but really, the choice of drop down
> > > >field name is ours to decide)
> > > >
> > > >Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
> > > >
> > > >I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a good
> > > >idea.
> > > >
> > > >I'm a big +1 ftr
> > > >
> > > >Gav...
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Chris
> > > >>
> > > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> ++++++++
> > > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > > >> Senior Computer Scientist
> > > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> ++++++++
> > > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University
> of
> > > >> Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> ++++++++
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
> > > >> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
> > > >> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
> > > >> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> Subject: JIRA label for new users
> > > >>
> > > >> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I figured
> it
> > > >> >warranted being sent here as well!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new
> users
> > > >> >could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough that a new
> > user
> > > >> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team
> > doesn't
> > > >> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple auxiliary
> > > >> >issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but that the core
> > > >> >team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this
> would
> > > >> >have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be great to
> have a
> > > >> >section devoted to "getting started" on the website that mentions
> > this
> > > >>as
> > > >> well.
> > > >> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and
> help.
> > I
> > > >> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >-- Joyce
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: JIRA label for new users
Posted by Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>.
Awesome, thanks Gav!!
-- Joyce
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>wrote:
> Ok so I've implemented this using the labels suggested.
>
> Someone should change the default skill level to any issues they are
> familiar with to what is appropriate.
>
> Gav...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mltjoyce@gmail.com [mailto:mltjoyce@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > Michael Joyce
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013 1:14 AM
> > To: dev@oodt.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
> >
> > +1 on this Gavin.
> >
> > Re. actual label names, how about a name followed by an (explanation) of
> > the difficulty level:
> >
> > Don't Know
> > Newcomer (Easy) - Everyone can do this level Committer (Medium) - This is
> > for regular contributors/committers. Where the vast majority of issues
> would
> > fall.
> > Expert (Hard) or Guru or ChrisMattmann or whatever everyone likes for
> > "hard" - Used sparingly when an issue requires expert component
> > knowledge
> >
> > We could default the field to "Don't Know" so every issue always has some
> > level?
> >
> > I like the CouchDB approach but I feel they have too many options.
> > Easy
> > Easy - Medium
> > Medium - Hard
> > Really Really Hard (Their Guru level)
> >
> > So, when something is "Medium," which category does it fall into? I think
> the
> > most important part of this system is identifying the difficulty for
> > newcomers. The other levels are just nice to have in my opinion. That
> being
> > said, I think simpler is better here.
> >
> > What do you guys think?
> >
> >
> > -- Joyce
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rajith Siriwardana <
> > rajithsiriwardana@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for having a label for issues that new users can help to resolve.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels
> > > > meaningful.
> > > >
> > > > Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ++++++++
> > > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > > > Senior Computer Scientist
> > > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > > > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > > > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > > >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ++++++++
> > > > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University
> > > > of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > > >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ++++++++
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > > > Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
> > > > Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
> > > > "gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > > > Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM
> > > > To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
> > > > Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> > > > >> [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
> > > > >> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
> > > > >> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
> > > > >> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
> > > > >> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for
> > > > >> peeps)
> > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > >We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an
> > > > >agreed and documented set of labels. Why? Too many labels and we
> > > > >run the risk of there being too many and they sort of Lose the
> > > > >impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
> > > > >grabbing is needed.
> > > > >
> > > > >Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
> > > > >
> > > > >However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom
> > > > >fields to our issues. Some projects have done such a thing, some,
> > > > >like the couchdb project, have
> > > implemented a
> > > > >drop down field in
> > > > >their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket
> > > > >is newcomer, contributor, committer, hardcore project guru or Greg
> > > > >Stein level. (OK so I made that last
> > > level
> > > > >up, but really, the choice of drop down field name is ours to
> > > > >decide)
> > > > >
> > > > >Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
> > > > >
> > > > >I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a
> > > > >good idea.
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm a big +1 ftr
> > > > >
> > > > >Gav...
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > >> Chris
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >> ++++++++
> > > > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > > > >> Senior Computer Scientist
> > > > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > > > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > > > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > > > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > > > >>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >> ++++++++
> > > > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > > > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > > > >>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >> ++++++++
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > >> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
> > > > >> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > >> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
> > > > >> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > >> Subject: JIRA label for new users
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I
> > > > >> >figured it warranted being sent here as well!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new
> > > > >> >users could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough
> > > > >> >that a new
> > > user
> > > > >> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team
> > > doesn't
> > > > >> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple
> > > > >> >auxiliary issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but
> > > > >> >that the core team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this
> > > > >> >would have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be
> > > > >> >great to have a section devoted to "getting started" on the
> > > > >> >website that mentions
> > > this
> > > > >>as
> > > > >> well.
> > > > >> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and
> help.
> > > I
> > > > >> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >-- Joyce
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
Re: JIRA label for new users
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Thanks Gav!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
"gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Date: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:34 PM
To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
>Ok so I've implemented this using the labels suggested.
>
>Someone should change the default skill level to any issues they are
>familiar with to what is appropriate.
>
>Gav...
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mltjoyce@gmail.com [mailto:mltjoyce@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Joyce
>> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013 1:14 AM
>> To: dev@oodt.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
>>
>> +1 on this Gavin.
>>
>> Re. actual label names, how about a name followed by an (explanation) of
>> the difficulty level:
>>
>> Don't Know
>> Newcomer (Easy) - Everyone can do this level Committer (Medium) - This
>>is
>> for regular contributors/committers. Where the vast majority of issues
>would
>> fall.
>> Expert (Hard) or Guru or ChrisMattmann or whatever everyone likes for
>> "hard" - Used sparingly when an issue requires expert component
>> knowledge
>>
>> We could default the field to "Don't Know" so every issue always has
>>some
>> level?
>>
>> I like the CouchDB approach but I feel they have too many options.
>> Easy
>> Easy - Medium
>> Medium - Hard
>> Really Really Hard (Their Guru level)
>>
>> So, when something is "Medium," which category does it fall into? I
>>think
>the
>> most important part of this system is identifying the difficulty for
>> newcomers. The other levels are just nice to have in my opinion. That
>being
>> said, I think simpler is better here.
>>
>> What do you guys think?
>>
>>
>> -- Joyce
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rajith Siriwardana <
>> rajithsiriwardana@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > +1 for having a label for issues that new users can help to resolve.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels
>> > > meaningful.
>> > >
>> > > Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Chris
>> > >
>> > >
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++
>> > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > > Senior Computer Scientist
>> > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > >
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++
>> > > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University
>> > > of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > >
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
>> > > Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
>> > > Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
>> > > "gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
>> > > Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM
>> > > To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
>> > > Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> > > >> [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
>> > > >> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
>> > > >> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
>> > > >> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
>> > > >> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for
>> > > >> peeps)
>> > :)
>> > > >
>> > > >We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an
>> > > >agreed and documented set of labels. Why? Too many labels and we
>> > > >run the risk of there being too many and they sort of Lose the
>> > > >impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
>> > > >grabbing is needed.
>> > > >
>> > > >Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
>> > > >
>> > > >However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom
>> > > >fields to our issues. Some projects have done such a thing, some,
>> > > >like the couchdb project, have
>> > implemented a
>> > > >drop down field in
>> > > >their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket
>> > > >is newcomer, contributor, committer, hardcore project guru or Greg
>> > > >Stein level. (OK so I made that last
>> > level
>> > > >up, but really, the choice of drop down field name is ours to
>> > > >decide)
>> > > >
>> > > >Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
>> > > >
>> > > >I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a
>> > > >good idea.
>> > > >
>> > > >I'm a big +1 ftr
>> > > >
>> > > >Gav...
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Cheers,
>> > > >> Chris
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > > >> ++++++++
>> > > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > > >> Senior Computer Scientist
>> > > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > > >>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > > >> ++++++++
>> > > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> > > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > > >>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > > >> ++++++++
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
>> > > >> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
>> > > >> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
>> > > >> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
>> > > >> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
>> > > >> Subject: JIRA label for new users
>> > > >>
>> > > >> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I
>> > > >> >figured it warranted being sent here as well!
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new
>> > > >> >users could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough
>> > > >> >that a new
>> > user
>> > > >> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team
>> > doesn't
>> > > >> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple
>> > > >> >auxiliary issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but
>> > > >> >that the core team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this
>> > > >> >would have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be
>> > > >> >great to have a section devoted to "getting started" on the
>> > > >> >website that mentions
>> > this
>> > > >>as
>> > > >> well.
>> > > >> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and
>help.
>> > I
>> > > >> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as
>>well.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >-- Joyce
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>
RE: JIRA label for new users
Posted by Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
Ok so I've implemented this using the labels suggested.
Someone should change the default skill level to any issues they are
familiar with to what is appropriate.
Gav...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mltjoyce@gmail.com [mailto:mltjoyce@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Joyce
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013 1:14 AM
> To: dev@oodt.apache.org
> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
>
> +1 on this Gavin.
>
> Re. actual label names, how about a name followed by an (explanation) of
> the difficulty level:
>
> Don't Know
> Newcomer (Easy) - Everyone can do this level Committer (Medium) - This is
> for regular contributors/committers. Where the vast majority of issues
would
> fall.
> Expert (Hard) or Guru or ChrisMattmann or whatever everyone likes for
> "hard" - Used sparingly when an issue requires expert component
> knowledge
>
> We could default the field to "Don't Know" so every issue always has some
> level?
>
> I like the CouchDB approach but I feel they have too many options.
> Easy
> Easy - Medium
> Medium - Hard
> Really Really Hard (Their Guru level)
>
> So, when something is "Medium," which category does it fall into? I think
the
> most important part of this system is identifying the difficulty for
> newcomers. The other levels are just nice to have in my opinion. That
being
> said, I think simpler is better here.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
>
> -- Joyce
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rajith Siriwardana <
> rajithsiriwardana@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 for having a label for issues that new users can help to resolve.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels
> > > meaningful.
> > >
> > > Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
> > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > > Senior Computer Scientist
> > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
> > > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University
> > > of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > > Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
> > > Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
> > > "gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > > Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM
> > > To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
> > > Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> > > >> [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
> > > >> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
> > > >> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
> > > >>
> > > >> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for
> > > >> peeps)
> > :)
> > > >
> > > >We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an
> > > >agreed and documented set of labels. Why? Too many labels and we
> > > >run the risk of there being too many and they sort of Lose the
> > > >impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
> > > >grabbing is needed.
> > > >
> > > >Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
> > > >
> > > >However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom
> > > >fields to our issues. Some projects have done such a thing, some,
> > > >like the couchdb project, have
> > implemented a
> > > >drop down field in
> > > >their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket
> > > >is newcomer, contributor, committer, hardcore project guru or Greg
> > > >Stein level. (OK so I made that last
> > level
> > > >up, but really, the choice of drop down field name is ours to
> > > >decide)
> > > >
> > > >Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
> > > >
> > > >I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a
> > > >good idea.
> > > >
> > > >I'm a big +1 ftr
> > > >
> > > >Gav...
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Chris
> > > >>
> > > >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> ++++++++
> > > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > > >> Senior Computer Scientist
> > > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > > >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> ++++++++
> > > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > > >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> ++++++++
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
> > > >> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
> > > >> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
> > > >> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> Subject: JIRA label for new users
> > > >>
> > > >> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I
> > > >> >figured it warranted being sent here as well!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new
> > > >> >users could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough
> > > >> >that a new
> > user
> > > >> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team
> > doesn't
> > > >> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple
> > > >> >auxiliary issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but
> > > >> >that the core team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this
> > > >> >would have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be
> > > >> >great to have a section devoted to "getting started" on the
> > > >> >website that mentions
> > this
> > > >>as
> > > >> well.
> > > >> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and
help.
> > I
> > > >> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >-- Joyce
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
Re: JIRA label for new users
Posted by Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>.
+1 on this Gavin.
Re. actual label names, how about a name followed by an (explanation) of
the difficulty level:
Don't Know
Newcomer (Easy) - Everyone can do this level
Committer (Medium) - This is for regular contributors/committers. Where the
vast majority of issues would fall.
Expert (Hard) or Guru or ChrisMattmann or whatever everyone likes for
"hard" - Used sparingly when an issue requires expert component knowledge
We could default the field to "Don't Know" so every issue always has some
level?
I like the CouchDB approach but I feel they have too many options.
Easy
Easy - Medium
Medium - Hard
Really Really Hard (Their Guru level)
So, when something is "Medium," which category does it fall into? I think
the most important part of this system is identifying the difficulty for
newcomers. The other levels are just nice to have in my opinion. That being
said, I think simpler is better here.
What do you guys think?
-- Joyce
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rajith Siriwardana <
rajithsiriwardana@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for having a label for issues that new users can help to resolve.
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels
> > meaningful.
> >
> > Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > Senior Computer Scientist
> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
> > Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
> > "gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM
> > To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
> > Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J) [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
> > >> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
> > >> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
> > >> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
> > >>
> > >> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for peeps)
> :)
> > >
> > >We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an agreed
> > >and
> > >documented set
> > >of labels. Why? Too many labels and we run the risk of there being too
> > >many
> > >and they sort of
> > >Lose the impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
> > >grabbing is needed.
> > >
> > >Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
> > >
> > >However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom fields to
> > >our
> > >issues. Some projects
> > >have done such a thing, some, like the couchdb project, have
> implemented a
> > >drop down field in
> > >their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket is
> > >newcomer, contributor, committer,
> > >hardcore project guru or Greg Stein level. (OK so I made that last
> level
> > >up, but really, the choice of drop down
> > >field name is ours to decide)
> > >
> > >Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
> > >
> > >I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a good
> > >idea.
> > >
> > >I'm a big +1 ftr
> > >
> > >Gav...
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> ++++++++
> > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >> Senior Computer Scientist
> > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> ++++++++
> > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of
> > >> Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> ++++++++
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
> > >> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
> > >> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > >> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
> > >> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> > >> Subject: JIRA label for new users
> > >>
> > >> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I figured it
> > >> >warranted being sent here as well!
> > >> >
> > >> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
> > >> >
> > >> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new users
> > >> >could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough that a new
> user
> > >> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
> > >> >
> > >> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team
> doesn't
> > >> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple auxiliary
> > >> >issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but that the core
> > >> >team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
> > >> >
> > >> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this would
> > >> >have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be great to have a
> > >> >section devoted to "getting started" on the website that mentions
> this
> > >>as
> > >> well.
> > >> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and help.
> I
> > >> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
> > >> >
> > >> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
> > >> >
> > >> >-- Joyce
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: JIRA label for new users
Posted by Rajith Siriwardana <ra...@gmail.com>.
+1 for having a label for issues that new users can help to resolve.
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels
> meaningful.
>
> Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
> Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
> "gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM
> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
>
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J) [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
> >> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
> >> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
> >> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
> >>
> >> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for peeps) :)
> >
> >We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an agreed
> >and
> >documented set
> >of labels. Why? Too many labels and we run the risk of there being too
> >many
> >and they sort of
> >Lose the impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
> >grabbing is needed.
> >
> >Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
> >
> >However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom fields to
> >our
> >issues. Some projects
> >have done such a thing, some, like the couchdb project, have implemented a
> >drop down field in
> >their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket is
> >newcomer, contributor, committer,
> >hardcore project guru or Greg Stein level. (OK so I made that last level
> >up, but really, the choice of drop down
> >field name is ours to decide)
> >
> >Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
> >
> >I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a good
> >idea.
> >
> >I'm a big +1 ftr
> >
> >Gav...
> >
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> ++++++++
> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> Senior Computer Scientist
> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> ++++++++
> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of
> >> Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> ++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
> >> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
> >> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> >> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
> >> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> >> Subject: JIRA label for new users
> >>
> >> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I figured it
> >> >warranted being sent here as well!
> >> >
> >> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
> >> >
> >> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new users
> >> >could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough that a new user
> >> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
> >> >
> >> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team doesn't
> >> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple auxiliary
> >> >issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but that the core
> >> >team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
> >> >
> >> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this would
> >> >have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be great to have a
> >> >section devoted to "getting started" on the website that mentions this
> >>as
> >> well.
> >> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and help. I
> >> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
> >> >
> >> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
> >> >
> >> >-- Joyce
> >
> >
>
>
Re: JIRA label for new users
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels
meaningful.
Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions
Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>,
"gavin@16degrees.com.au" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM
To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <de...@oodt.apache.org>
Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J) [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
>> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
>> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
>>
>> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for peeps) :)
>
>We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an agreed
>and
>documented set
>of labels. Why? Too many labels and we run the risk of there being too
>many
>and they sort of
>Lose the impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
>grabbing is needed.
>
>Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
>
>However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom fields to
>our
>issues. Some projects
>have done such a thing, some, like the couchdb project, have implemented a
>drop down field in
>their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket is
>newcomer, contributor, committer,
>hardcore project guru or Greg Stein level. (OK so I made that last level
>up, but really, the choice of drop down
>field name is ours to decide)
>
>Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
>
>I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a good
>idea.
>
>I'm a big +1 ftr
>
>Gav...
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of
>> Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> ++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
>> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
>> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
>> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: JIRA label for new users
>>
>> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I figured it
>> >warranted being sent here as well!
>> >
>> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
>> >
>> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new users
>> >could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough that a new user
>> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
>> >
>> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team doesn't
>> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple auxiliary
>> >issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but that the core
>> >team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
>> >
>> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this would
>> >have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be great to have a
>> >section devoted to "getting started" on the website that mentions this
>>as
>> well.
>> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and help. I
>> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
>> >
>> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
>> >
>> >-- Joyce
>
>
RE: JIRA label for new users
Posted by Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J) [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov]
> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM
> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org
> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org
> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users
>
> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for peeps) :)
We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an agreed and
documented set
of labels. Why? Too many labels and we run the risk of there being too many
and they sort of
Lose the impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention
grabbing is needed.
Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now.
However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom fields to our
issues. Some projects
have done such a thing, some, like the couchdb project, have implemented a
drop down field in
their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket is
newcomer, contributor, committer,
hardcore project guru or Greg Stein level. (OK so I made that last level
up, but really, the choice of drop down
field name is ours to decide)
Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look.
I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a good idea.
I'm a big +1 ftr
Gav...
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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> ++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of
> Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: JIRA label for new users
>
> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I figured it
> >warranted being sent here as well!
> >
> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
> >
> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new users
> >could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough that a new user
> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
> >
> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team doesn't
> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple auxiliary
> >issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but that the core
> >team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with.
> >
> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this would
> >have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be great to have a
> >section devoted to "getting started" on the website that mentions this as
> well.
> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and help. I
> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
> >
> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
> >
> >-- Joyce
Re: JIRA label for new users
Posted by Michael Joyce <ml...@gmail.com>.
Hay Gav,
Could you help out with implementing this on Climate as well?
Copying the proposed tags here again for convenience.
Don't Know
Newcomer (Easy) - Everyone can do this level
Committer (Medium) - This is for regular contributors/committers. Where the
vast majority of issues would fall.
Expert (Hard) - Used sparingly when an issue requires expert component
knowledge
Thanks much!
----------------
Mike
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for peeps) :)
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Joyce <jo...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org"
> <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
> To: dev <de...@climate.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: JIRA label for new users
>
> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I figured it
> >warranted being sent here as well!
> >
> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/
> >
> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new users
> >could
> >help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough that a new user could
> >figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag.
> >
> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team doesn't
> >want
> >to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple auxiliary issues that
> >won't take forever to debug/implement but that the core team doesn't
> >necessarily have time to deal with.
> >
> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this would have
> >been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be great to have a section
> >devoted to "getting started" on the website that mentions this as well.
> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and help. I
> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well.
> >
> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name?
> >
> >-- Joyce
>
>