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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> on 2005/09/01 00:51:31 UTC

Re: [lefo] [WAS: Re: Skins in Lenya]

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 23:27 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote:
> >Which specific mailing list forrest or lenya? 
> >
> 
> +1 Forrest
> +0 Lenya
> 

Why forrest and not lenya? How do lenya know about the problems that may
occur?

> >...and why not the other?
> >A new one? Why not stick to Nicolas suggestion?
> >  
> >
> 
> because I assume people want to get started right now and not wait
> until infrastructure finds the time ... action, right ;-)
> 

I wrote:
> Like I said, there are already heaps of mails on lenya/forrest in both
> lists. We are already using the lists. We have already started the
> discussion how to integrate lenya and forrest.

...

> >  
> >
> >>>More actions, less talk. ;-)
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Wasn't there a thread on that talk is more important than code ;-)
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Please do not understand only the things you want. 
> >What has code with actions to do?
> >  
> >
> 
> I just tried to make a friendly cynical note ;-)
> 

I do not think that cynic is appropriate in an ASF community (friendly
or not).
-- 
thorsten

"Together we stand, divided we fall!" 
Hey you (Pink Floyd)


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Re: [lefo] [WAS: Re: Skins in Lenya]

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
[copied to the Forrest dev list for information, there is nothing new in 
here for Forrest devs, but a decision has been made that affects Forrest 
so I'm copying this "end of discussion" type mail]

Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Michael Wechner wrote:
> 
>> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 23:27 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>>> Which specific mailing list forrest or lenya?
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 Forrest
>>>> +0 Lenya
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why forrest and not lenya?
>>
>>
>>
>> because it's a Forrest pub, right?
> 
> 
> +1
> 
> IIUC:
> 
> Forrest is using the Lenya framework to build a publication.
> The scope / functionality etc. of the publication is the matter of
> the Forrest community. If problems occur or help is needed, questions
> should be asked on the Lenya lists.
> 
> But maybe I didn't get everything?

You get everything for this first stage. Our first usage will be to 
create a publication that uses Forrest to publish the Lenya docs. They 
will not be tightly integrated, instead, they will communication through 
the http: or cocoon: protocols. Lenya will, at this stage, benefit from 
Forrests output plugins.

We [Forrest] will use this for our own experiments with creating Doco 
and (part of) Site-Builder [1]. When we stop experimenting and start 
working we will need to work work closely with the Lenya folk to make a 
tighter integration and leverage the power of our input plugins as well.

[1] http://people.apache.org/~rgardler/site-build/summary.html

Ross

Re: [lefo] [WAS: Re: Skins in Lenya]

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
[copied to the Forrest dev list for information, there is nothing new in 
here for Forrest devs, but a decision has been made that affects Forrest 
so I'm copying this "end of discussion" type mail]

Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Michael Wechner wrote:
> 
>> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 23:27 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>>> Which specific mailing list forrest or lenya?
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 Forrest
>>>> +0 Lenya
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why forrest and not lenya?
>>
>>
>>
>> because it's a Forrest pub, right?
> 
> 
> +1
> 
> IIUC:
> 
> Forrest is using the Lenya framework to build a publication.
> The scope / functionality etc. of the publication is the matter of
> the Forrest community. If problems occur or help is needed, questions
> should be asked on the Lenya lists.
> 
> But maybe I didn't get everything?

You get everything for this first stage. Our first usage will be to 
create a publication that uses Forrest to publish the Lenya docs. They 
will not be tightly integrated, instead, they will communication through 
the http: or cocoon: protocols. Lenya will, at this stage, benefit from 
Forrests output plugins.

We [Forrest] will use this for our own experiments with creating Doco 
and (part of) Site-Builder [1]. When we stop experimenting and start 
working we will need to work work closely with the Lenya folk to make a 
tighter integration and leverage the power of our input plugins as well.

[1] http://people.apache.org/~rgardler/site-build/summary.html

Ross

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Re: [lefo] [WAS: Re: Skins in Lenya]

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 23:27 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>> Which specific mailing list forrest or lenya?
>>>>     
>>>
>>> +1 Forrest
>>> +0 Lenya
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Why forrest and not lenya?
> 
> 
> because it's a Forrest pub, right?

+1

IIUC:

Forrest is using the Lenya framework to build a publication.
The scope / functionality etc. of the publication is the matter of
the Forrest community. If problems occur or help is needed, questions
should be asked on the Lenya lists.

But maybe I didn't get everything?

-- Andreas


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Re: [lefo] [WAS: Re: Skins in Lenya]

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:

>On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 23:27 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote:
>  
>
>>>Which specific mailing list forrest or lenya? 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>+1 Forrest
>>+0 Lenya
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Why forrest and not lenya? 
>

because it's a Forrest pub, right?

>How do lenya know about the problems that may
>occur?
>  
>

because Lenya devs who are interested should subscribe to the ML which
we hopefully agree to someday ;-)

>
>>>      
>>>
>>I just tried to make a friendly cynical note ;-)
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I do not think that cynic is appropriate in an ASF community (friendly
>or not).
>  
>

well, I am going to bed now ...

Michi


-- 
Michael Wechner
Wyona      -   Open Source Content Management   -    Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com                      http://lenya.apache.org
michael.wechner@wyona.com                        michi@apache.org


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