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Posted to dev@beam.apache.org by Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> on 2019/02/01 01:16:44 UTC

Re: Beam Python streaming pipeline on Flink Runner

+1 to Thomas's idea as a way to enable python users on Flink. On the other
hand his will be a throwaway work once SDF is supported. How far are we
from SDF support?

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:

> Ah, I thought you meant native Flink transforms.
>
> Exactly! The translation code is already there. The main challenge is how
> to
> programmatically configure the BeamIO from Python. I suppose that is also
> an
> unsolved problem for cross-language transforms in general.
>
> For Matthias' pipeline with PubSubIO we can build something specific, but
> for
> the general case there should be way to initialize a Beam IO via a
> configuration
> map provided by an external environment.
>
> On 31.01.19 17:36, Thomas Weise wrote:
> > Exactly, that's what I had in mind.
> >
> > A Flink runner native transform would make the existing unbounded
> sources
> > available, similar to:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/2e89c1e4d35e7b5f95a622259d23d921c3d6ad1f/runners/flink/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/flink/FlinkStreamingTransformTranslators.java#L167
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mxm@apache.org
> > <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Wouldn't it be even more useful for the transition period if we
> enabled Beam IO
> >     to be used via Flink (like in the legacy Flink Runner)? In this
> particular
> >     example, Matthias wants to use PubSubIO, which is not even available
> as a
> >     native
> >     Flink transform.
> >
> >     On 31.01.19 16:21, Thomas Weise wrote:
> >      > Until SDF is supported, we could also add Flink runner native
> transforms for
> >      > selected unbounded sources [1].
> >      >
> >      > That might be a reasonable option to unblock users that want to
> try Python
> >      > streaming on Flink.
> >      >
> >      > Thomas
> >      >
> >      > [1]
> >      >
> >
> https://github.com/lyft/beam/blob/release-2.10.0-lyft/runners/flink/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/flink/LyftFlinkStreamingPortableTranslations.java
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:51 AM Maximilian Michels <
> mxm@apache.org
> >     <ma...@apache.org>
> >      > <mailto:mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >      > I have a hard time to imagine how can we map in a generic
> way
> >      >     RestrictionTrackers into the existing
> Bounded/UnboundedSource, so I would
> >      >     love to hear more about the details.
> >      >
> >      >     Isn't it the other way around? The SDF is a generalization of
> >     UnboundedSource.
> >      >     So we would wrap UnboundedSource using SDF. I'm not saying it
> is
> >     trivial, but
> >      >     SDF offers all the functionality that UnboundedSource needs.
> >      >
> >      >     For example, the @GetInitialRestriction method would call
> split on the
> >      >     UnboundedSource and the restriction trackers would then be
> used to
> >     process the
> >      >     splits.
> >      >
> >      >     On 31.01.19 15:16, Ismaël Mejía wrote:
> >      >      >> Not necessarily. This would be one way. Another way is
> build an SDF
> >      >     wrapper for UnboundedSource. Probably the easier path for
> migration.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > That would be fantastic, I have heard about such wrapper
> multiple
> >      >      > times but so far there is not any realistic proposal. I
> have a hard
> >      >      > time to imagine how can we map in a generic way
> RestrictionTrackers
> >      >      > into the existing Bounded/UnboundedSource, so I would love
> to hear
> >      >      > more about the details.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:07 PM Maximilian Michels <
> mxm@apache.org
> >     <ma...@apache.org>
> >      >     <mailto:mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>   > In addition to have support in the runners, this will
> require a
> >      >      >>   > rewrite of PubsubIO to use the new SDF API.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> Not necessarily. This would be one way. Another way is
> build an SDF
> >      >     wrapper for
> >      >      >> UnboundedSource. Probably the easier path for migration.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> On 31.01.19 14:03, Ismaël Mejía wrote:
> >      >      >>>> Fortunately, there is already a pending PR for
> cross-language
> >      >     pipelines which
> >      >      >>>> will allow us to use Java IO like PubSub in Python jobs.
> >      >      >>>
> >      >      >>> In addition to have support in the runners, this will
> require a
> >      >      >>> rewrite of PubsubIO to use the new SDF API.
> >      >      >>>
> >      >      >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:23 PM Maximilian Michels
> >     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
> >      >     <mailto:mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >      >      >>>>
> >      >      >>>> Hi Matthias,
> >      >      >>>>
> >      >      >>>> This is already reflected in the compatibility matrix,
> if you look
> >      >     under SDF.
> >      >      >>>> There is no UnboundedSource interface for portable
> pipelines.
> >     That's a
> >      >     legacy
> >      >      >>>> abstraction that will be replaced with SDF.
> >      >      >>>>
> >      >      >>>> Fortunately, there is already a pending PR for
> cross-language
> >      >     pipelines which
> >      >      >>>> will allow us to use Java IO like PubSub in Python jobs.
> >      >      >>>>
> >      >      >>>> Thanks,
> >      >      >>>> Max
> >      >      >>>>
> >      >      >>>> On 31.01.19 12:06, Matthias Baetens wrote:
> >      >      >>>>> Hey Ankur,
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>> Thanks for the swift reply. Should I change this in the
> >     capability matrix
> >      >      >>>>> <
> https://s.apache.org/apache-beam-portability-support-table> then?
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>> Many thanks.
> >      >      >>>>> Best,
> >      >      >>>>> Matthias
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 09:31, Ankur Goenka <
> goenka@google.com
> >     <ma...@google.com>
> >      >     <mailto:goenka@google.com <ma...@google.com>>
> >      >      >>>>> <mailto:goenka@google.com <ma...@google.com>
> >     <mailto:goenka@google.com <ma...@google.com>>>> wrote:
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>       Hi Matthias,
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>       Unfortunately, unbounded reads including pubsub
> are not yet
> >      >     supported for
> >      >      >>>>>       portable runners.
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>       Thanks,
> >      >      >>>>>       Ankur
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>       On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 2:44 PM Matthias Baetens
> >      >     <baetensmatthias@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >     <mailto:baetensmatthias@gmail.com <mailto:baetensmatthias@gmail.com
> >>
> >      >      >>>>>       <mailto:baetensmatthias@gmail.com
> >     <ma...@gmail.com>
> >      >     <mailto:baetensmatthias@gmail.com
> >     <ma...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>           Hi everyone,
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>           Last few days I have been trying to run a
> streaming
> >      >     pipeline (code on
> >      >      >>>>>           Github <
> https://github.com/matthiasa4/beam-demo>) on a
> >      >     Flink Runner.
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>           I am running a Flink cluster locally (v1.5.6
> >      >      >>>>>           <https://flink.apache.org/downloads.html>)
> >      >      >>>>>           I have built the SDK Harness Container:
> /./gradlew
> >      >      >>>>>           :beam-sdks-python-container:docker/
> >      >      >>>>>           and started the JobServer: /./gradlew
> >      >      >>>>>           :beam-runners-flink_2.11-job-server:runShadow
> >      >      >>>>>           -PflinkMasterUrl=localhost:8081./
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>           I run my pipeline with: /env/bin/python
> >     streaming_pipeline.py
> >      >      >>>>>           --runner=PortableRunner
> --job_endpoint=localhost:8099
> >      >     --output xxx
> >      >      >>>>>           --input_subscription xxx
> --output_subscription xxx/
> >      >      >>>>>           /
> >      >      >>>>>           /
> >      >      >>>>>           All this is running inside a Ubuntu (Bionic)
> in a
> >     Virtualbox.
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>           The job submits fine, but unfortunately
> fails after
> >     a few
> >      >     seconds with
> >      >      >>>>>           the error attached.
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>           Anything I am missing or doing wrong?
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>           Many thanks.
> >      >      >>>>>           Best,
> >      >      >>>>>           Matthias
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >      >>>>>
> >      >
> >
>