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NetBeans IDE file chooser swap-out
Hi all,
Just a quick query about using the NB IDE file chooser...
I think I've finally hit a breaking point with the IDE's built-in file
chooser. Being used to the more functional & æsthetically-pleasing file
dialog in macOS (which leads to *much* faster use in practice), I find
the one in the IDE to be restrictive and frustrating at best. For my own
code projects I have a replacement which can delegate to the system. I'm
looking for some way to achieve this within the IDE. Any ideas anyone?
Stan
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Re: NetBeans IDE file chooser swap-out
Posted by Giles Winstanley <st...@snaq.net>.
Problem solved. I hadn't seen it previously, but under [ Options /
Appearance / Look and Feel ] there's a "Maximize use of native look and
feel" checkbox, for which the tooltip describes more of less exactly
what I want. Nice job NB team :)
Stan
On 14/06/2023 11:13, Giles Winstanley wrote:
> David,
>
> My issue has little to do with performance, but more due to the plain
> file chooser dialog being disjoint in design/behaviour compared to the
> system file chooser, using it is always a slightly jarring experience,
> which reduces throughput when working. In short, it always takes far
> too long to select the file I want to find, compared to the system
> chooser.
>
> The [ Open Project ] dialog seems a slightly different beast, as it
> needs to be customized to allow the extra options it presents, so I
> think it unlikely there's a way to accommodate these while also
> delegating to a system dialog. The [ File / Open File... ] dialog by
> contrast seems to have no extra options, so in principal could be
> delegated to a system dialog (although would admittedly then add
> incongruity between dialog types).
>
> Anyhow, in reality I'm not imagining this would be addressed in the
> core codebase, just trying to find a hack to workaround a personal
> gripe. I seem to remember a few years back this being a retro-hack
> possibility, but the details are long gone from my head.
>
> Stan
>
> On 14/06/2023 10:57, David Gradwell wrote:
>>
>> Stan,
>>
>> I have noticed severe performance issues when using the NetBeans Open
>> Project on Windows 10 running under parallels on either an M1 Mac
>> Mini or an old MacBook Pro. There were not the same performance
>> issues a few releases ago when I used to use the MacBook Pro as my
>> main development machine.
>>
>> There are no performance issues when:
>>
>> 1. Running NetBeans on the Mac OS on the same machines;
>> 2. Running my Java apps that use the standard Java file open which I
>> think invokes the standard OS file open dialogue.
>>
>> Thus I too would welcome NetBeans always using the operating system
>> (or at least the standard Java) file open dialogue.
>>
>> I would be willing to beta test a version of NetBeans under both Mac
>> and Windows that had that fix applied.
>>
>> David Gradwell
>>
>> *From: *Giles Winstanley <st...@snaq.net>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 09:30
>> *To: *users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> *Subject: *NetBeans IDE file chooser swap-out
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just a quick query about using the NB IDE file chooser...
>>
>> I think I've finally hit a breaking point with the IDE's built-in file
>> chooser. Being used to the more functional & æsthetically-pleasing file
>> dialog in macOS (which leads to *much* faster use in practice), I find
>> the one in the IDE to be restrictive and frustrating at best. For my own
>> code projects I have a replacement which can delegate to the system. I'm
>> looking for some way to achieve this within the IDE. Any ideas anyone?
>>
>> Stan
>>
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Re: NetBeans IDE file chooser swap-out
Posted by Giles Winstanley <st...@snaq.net>.
David,
My issue has little to do with performance, but more due to the plain
file chooser dialog being disjoint in design/behaviour compared to the
system file chooser, using it is always a slightly jarring experience,
which reduces throughput when working. In short, it always takes far too
long to select the file I want to find, compared to the system chooser.
The [ Open Project ] dialog seems a slightly different beast, as it
needs to be customized to allow the extra options it presents, so I
think it unlikely there's a way to accommodate these while also
delegating to a system dialog. The [ File / Open File... ] dialog by
contrast seems to have no extra options, so in principal could be
delegated to a system dialog (although would admittedly then add
incongruity between dialog types).
Anyhow, in reality I'm not imagining this would be addressed in the core
codebase, just trying to find a hack to workaround a personal gripe. I
seem to remember a few years back this being a retro-hack possibility,
but the details are long gone from my head.
Stan
On 14/06/2023 10:57, David Gradwell wrote:
>
> Stan,
>
> I have noticed severe performance issues when using the NetBeans Open
> Project on Windows 10 running under parallels on either an M1 Mac Mini
> or an old MacBook Pro. There were not the same performance issues a
> few releases ago when I used to use the MacBook Pro as my main
> development machine.
>
> There are no performance issues when:
>
> 1. Running NetBeans on the Mac OS on the same machines;
> 2. Running my Java apps that use the standard Java file open which I
> think invokes the standard OS file open dialogue.
>
> Thus I too would welcome NetBeans always using the operating system
> (or at least the standard Java) file open dialogue.
>
> I would be willing to beta test a version of NetBeans under both Mac
> and Windows that had that fix applied.
>
> David Gradwell
>
> *From: *Giles Winstanley <st...@snaq.net>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 09:30
> *To: *users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *NetBeans IDE file chooser swap-out
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just a quick query about using the NB IDE file chooser...
>
> I think I've finally hit a breaking point with the IDE's built-in file
> chooser. Being used to the more functional & æsthetically-pleasing file
> dialog in macOS (which leads to *much* faster use in practice), I find
> the one in the IDE to be restrictive and frustrating at best. For my own
> code projects I have a replacement which can delegate to the system. I'm
> looking for some way to achieve this within the IDE. Any ideas anyone?
>
> Stan
>
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Re: NetBeans IDE file chooser swap-out
Posted by David Gradwell <da...@gradwell.com>.
Stan,
I have noticed severe performance issues when using the NetBeans Open Project on Windows 10 running under parallels on either an M1 Mac Mini or an old MacBook Pro. There were not the same performance issues a few releases ago when I used to use the MacBook Pro as my main development machine.
There are no performance issues when:
1. Running NetBeans on the Mac OS on the same machines;
2. Running my Java apps that use the standard Java file open which I think invokes the standard OS file open dialogue.
Thus I too would welcome NetBeans always using the operating system (or at least the standard Java) file open dialogue.
I would be willing to beta test a version of NetBeans under both Mac and Windows that had that fix applied.
David Gradwell
From: Giles Winstanley <st...@snaq.net>
Date: Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 09:30
To: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: NetBeans IDE file chooser swap-out
Hi all,
Just a quick query about using the NB IDE file chooser...
I think I've finally hit a breaking point with the IDE's built-in file
chooser. Being used to the more functional & æsthetically-pleasing file
dialog in macOS (which leads to *much* faster use in practice), I find
the one in the IDE to be restrictive and frustrating at best. For my own
code projects I have a replacement which can delegate to the system. I'm
looking for some way to achieve this within the IDE. Any ideas anyone?
Stan
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