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New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've
spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and
failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very
much. I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit
easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files
that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows
10? I'd appreciate the help.
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RE: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
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From: Peter Toye <ne...@ptoye.com>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:36 AM
To: Brenden Towey <br...@gmail.com>; users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Dear Brenden,
You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an administrator. And don't forget to save a copy first!
Best regards,
Peter
mailto:netbeans@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com <http://www.ptoye.com>
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Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:
> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very much. I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows 10? I'd appreciate the help.
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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
On 12/7/20 9:52 AM, Brenden Towey wrote:
>
> Yup, this worked. It is super inconvenient though. First, I'm used
> to picking Gvim directly off of a context menu (right click the file,
> pick "Edit with Gvim"). Second I have to actually navigate to the
> Gvim file on my hard drive to do this. Windows doesn't present "run
> as administrator" if I try to use a shortcut. So the quick bar at the
> bottom of my screen doesn't work, and neither does the Start menu. It
> has to be navigated manually using Explorer. Then after that I have
> to manually navigate to the netbeans.conf file again because Gvim
> starts up with the default in its own directory, not where I was
> looking two minutes ago with Explorer.
>
> Again a simple config file in my users directory that's owned by me
> would be a lot more convenient.
That's possible create an etc dir in your netbeans user dir, than add a
writable copy of netbeans.conf there.
>
> Thank you all for the help though, it was sincerely appreciated. Now
> my font size is HUGE. :-)
>
>
>
> On 12/7/2020 9:36 AM, Peter Toye wrote:
>> Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf Dear Brenden,
>>
>> You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an
>> administrator. And don't forget to save a copy first!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Peter
>> mailto:netbeans@ptoye.com
>> www.ptoye.com
>>
>> -------------------------
>> Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> > I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far
>> I've spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to
>> nebeans.conf and failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your
>> configuration file very much. I'd like to see changes to the
>> installer to specifically permit easier editing of that file, and
>> maybe a review to identify other files that the user might reasonably
>> need make changes to.
>>
>> > Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under
>> windows 10? I'd appreciate the help.
>>
>>
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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Brenden Towey <br...@gmail.com>.
Yup, this worked. It is super inconvenient though. First, I'm used to
picking Gvim directly off of a context menu (right click the file, pick
"Edit with Gvim"). Second I have to actually navigate to the Gvim file
on my hard drive to do this. Windows doesn't present "run as
administrator" if I try to use a shortcut. So the quick bar at the
bottom of my screen doesn't work, and neither does the Start menu. It
has to be navigated manually using Explorer. Then after that I have to
manually navigate to the netbeans.conf file again because Gvim starts up
with the default in its own directory, not where I was looking two
minutes ago with Explorer.
Again a simple config file in my users directory that's owned by me
would be a lot more convenient.
Thank you all for the help though, it was sincerely appreciated. Now my
font size is HUGE. :-)
On 12/7/2020 9:36 AM, Peter Toye wrote:
> Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf Dear Brenden,
>
> You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an
> administrator. And don't forget to save a copy first!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Peter
> mailto:netbeans@ptoye.com
> www.ptoye.com
>
> -------------------------
> Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:
>
> > I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far
> I've spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to
> nebeans.conf and failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your
> configuration file very much. I'd like to see changes to the
> installer to specifically permit easier editing of that file, and
> maybe a review to identify other files that the user might reasonably
> need make changes to.
>
> > Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under
> windows 10? I'd appreciate the help.
>
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
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>
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>
Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Peter Toye <ne...@ptoye.com>.
Dear Brenden,
You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an administrator. And don't forget to save a copy first!
Best regards,
Peter
mailto:netbeans@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com
-------------------------
Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:
> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very much. I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows 10? I'd appreciate the help.
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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
You can make a copy of the netbeans.conf in your <netbeans
userdir>/etc/netbeans.conf
On 12/7/20 9:41 AM, Brenden Towey wrote:
>
> Sorry about that, I just asked about this on Superuser and I just
> forgot to include the details since I had just explained them. (Yall
> always check Superuser every time yall get an email, right? :-) )
>
> Yes, I don't have permission. The entire directory tree including all
> files is marked as "Read Only" and all the files are owned by
> "Administrators" (and no group set, group is "None"). The read-only
> bit seems to be the main problem, but I suspect that the file
> ownership will also figure in to there somewhere as well. Trying to
> edit this as text file (Gvim) doesn't allow me to change the file even
> with :w! And even if I run Explorer with Admin permissions it would
> let me change the read only status. It runs and doesn't report an
> error, but the read only status remains.
>
> At minimum this is really inconvenient. At worst I guess I might have
> to wait for a fix and then re-install.
>
> I think I'd be happier with a configuration file under my users
> directory, say in a .netbeans directory or something, that I owned and
> I could just change as needed.
>
>
>
> On 12/7/2020 9:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey <brendentowey@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far
>> I've
>> spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to
>> nebeans.conf and
>> failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration
>> file very
>> much. I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically
>> permit
>> easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other
>> files
>> that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
>>
>> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under
>> windows
>> 10? I'd appreciate the help.
>>
>>
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>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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>>
>
Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Brenden Towey <br...@gmail.com>.
Weirdly, this does not seem to be correct. It appears the file
permissions don't matter. From that Superuser question I alluded to
earlier:
"Because file permissions don't matter, it is an operating system
protected area. You need to copy out and back in, and OK the UAC prompt.
If you have disabled UAC then re-enable it."
Link:
https://superuser.com/questions/1608045/how-to-modify-read-only-file-on-windows-10
So at least one Windows maven seems to think that the effective
permissions don't matter. I think that's very odd, but it appears to be
true.
On 12/7/2020 9:53 AM, Peter Toye wrote:
> Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf Dear Brenden,
>
> Well, on my machine (Windows 10 Home 64-bit) I don't have write
> access to the directory of the file, but Admin does.
>
> I assume you've looked at the effective permissions part of the file
> properties to check.
Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Peter Toye <ne...@ptoye.com>.
Dear Brenden,
Well, on my machine (Windows 10 Home 64-bit) I don't have write access to the directory of the file, but Admin does.
I assume you've looked at the effective permissions part of the file properties to check.
Best regards,
Peter
mailto:netbeans@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com
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Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:41:57 PM, you wrote:
Sorry about that, I just asked about this on Superuser and I just forgot to include the details since I had just explained them. (Yall always check Superuser every time yall get an email, right? :-) )
Yes, I don't have permission. The entire directory tree including all files is marked as "Read Only" and all the files are owned by "Administrators" (and no group set, group is "None"). The read-only bit seems to be the main problem, but I suspect that the file ownership will also figure in to there somewhere as well. Trying to edit this as text file (Gvim) doesn't allow me to change the file even with :w! And even if I run Explorer with Admin permissions it would let me change the read only status. It runs and doesn't report an error, but the read only status remains.
At minimum this is really inconvenient. At worst I guess I might have to wait for a fix and then re-install.
I think I'd be happier with a configuration file under my users directory, say in a .netbeans directory or something, that I owned and I could just change as needed.
On 12/7/2020 9:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?
Gj
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've
spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and
failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very
much. I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit
easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files
that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows
10? I'd appreciate the help.
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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Brenden Towey <br...@gmail.com>.
Sorry about that, I just asked about this on Superuser and I just forgot
to include the details since I had just explained them. (Yall always
check Superuser every time yall get an email, right? :-) )
Yes, I don't have permission. The entire directory tree including all
files is marked as "Read Only" and all the files are owned by
"Administrators" (and no group set, group is "None"). The read-only bit
seems to be the main problem, but I suspect that the file ownership will
also figure in to there somewhere as well. Trying to edit this as text
file (Gvim) doesn't allow me to change the file even with :w! And even
if I run Explorer with Admin permissions it would let me change the read
only status. It runs and doesn't report an error, but the read only
status remains.
At minimum this is really inconvenient. At worst I guess I might have
to wait for a fix and then re-install.
I think I'd be happier with a configuration file under my users
directory, say in a .netbeans directory or something, that I owned and I
could just change as needed.
On 12/7/2020 9:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey <brendentowey@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far
> I've
> spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf
> and
> failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file
> very
> much. I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically
> permit
> easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other
> files
> that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
>
> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows
> 10? I'd appreciate the help.
>
>
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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?
Gj
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've
> spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and
> failing. Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very
> much. I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit
> easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files
> that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
>
> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows
> 10? I'd appreciate the help.
>
>
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