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[jira] Created: (ODE-873) Custom log activity for BPEL

Custom log activity for BPEL
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                 Key: ODE-873
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-873
             Project: ODE
          Issue Type: New Feature
          Components: BPEL Runtime
            Reporter: Milinda Lakmal Pathirage


It'll be good if we can provide users with a custom activity(for example log activity) that users can use to log messages, variables and other possible information in the BPEL processes. 

WDYT?

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[jira] Commented: (ODE-873) Custom log activity for BPEL

Posted by "Veresh Jain (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Veresh Jain commented on ODE-873:
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I can take this one if required.

> Custom log activity for BPEL
> ----------------------------
>
>                 Key: ODE-873
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-873
>             Project: ODE
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: BPEL Runtime
>            Reporter: Milinda Lakmal Pathirage
>
> It'll be good if we can provide users with a custom activity(for example log activity) that users can use to log messages, variables and other possible information in the BPEL processes. 
> WDYT?

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Re: Extension activities

Posted by Bob Brodt <bb...@redhat.com>.
Hooray! I've been waiting for this :)

_______________________________________
Robert ("Bob") Brodt
Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
JBoss by Red Hat

----- "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Waruna,
> 
> Cool, that would be great. I think the best reference is [1], plus
> some
> basic testing would be needed I guess.
> 
> The aim is that the runtime with the modified OModel is still capable
> to
> a) successfully read old CBP files (think of long running processes
> that
> run for years that need to be continued on a new ODE version) and b)
> successfully run these processes. I believe adding new fields to the
> OModel and then loading an old CBP file will set all new fields to
> null.
> Thus, we must ensure that the runtime code won't throw any NPE in this
> case.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Tammo
> 
> [1]
> http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/platform/serialization/spec/version.html#6678
> 
> On 24.09.2010 05:41, Waruna Ranasinghe wrote:
> > Hi Tammo
> > 
> > On 21 September 2010 20:24, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Bob,
> >>
> >> This feature was low priority as nobody was really pushing for it.
> If you
> >> need this feature we can of course increase priorities. I'm happy
> to commit
> >> this patch but have to analyze it's impact on binary compatibility
> of cbp
> >> files first. If it breaks BC we need to find a solution (again) to
> support
> >> multiple OModel versions first. This will take however quite some
> time. I'm
> >> afraid I can't find the time to review before my vacation, which
> end oct 5.
> >>
> > Can you provide some pointers to check binary compatibility of cbp
> files, so
> > that I'm happy test this scenario.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Waruna
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>  Tammo
> >>
> >> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> >>
> >> Am 21.09.2010 um 16:09 schrieb Bob Brodt <bb...@redhat.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hi devs,
> >>>
> >>> I was just wondering what the status is of
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-841 (extension
> activities) and
> >>> if we can expect this feature to be in 1.3.5
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________
> >>> Robert ("Bob") Brodt
> >>> Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
> >>> JBoss by Red Hat
> >>>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de

Re: Extension activities

Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Hi Waruna,

Cool, that would be great. I think the best reference is [1], plus some
basic testing would be needed I guess.

The aim is that the runtime with the modified OModel is still capable to
a) successfully read old CBP files (think of long running processes that
run for years that need to be continued on a new ODE version) and b)
successfully run these processes. I believe adding new fields to the
OModel and then loading an old CBP file will set all new fields to null.
Thus, we must ensure that the runtime code won't throw any NPE in this case.

Thanks,
  Tammo

[1]
http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/platform/serialization/spec/version.html#6678

On 24.09.2010 05:41, Waruna Ranasinghe wrote:
> Hi Tammo
> 
> On 21 September 2010 20:24, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> This feature was low priority as nobody was really pushing for it. If you
>> need this feature we can of course increase priorities. I'm happy to commit
>> this patch but have to analyze it's impact on binary compatibility of cbp
>> files first. If it breaks BC we need to find a solution (again) to support
>> multiple OModel versions first. This will take however quite some time. I'm
>> afraid I can't find the time to review before my vacation, which end oct 5.
>>
> Can you provide some pointers to check binary compatibility of cbp files, so
> that I'm happy test this scenario.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Waruna
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Best,
>>  Tammo
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>
>> Am 21.09.2010 um 16:09 schrieb Bob Brodt <bb...@redhat.com>:
>>
>>
>>  Hi devs,
>>>
>>> I was just wondering what the status is of
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-841 (extension activities) and
>>> if we can expect this feature to be in 1.3.5
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> _______________________________________
>>> Robert ("Bob") Brodt
>>> Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
>>> JBoss by Red Hat
>>>
>>
> 
> 

-- 
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Re: Extension activities

Posted by Waruna Ranasinghe <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tammo

On 21 September 2010 20:24, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> This feature was low priority as nobody was really pushing for it. If you
> need this feature we can of course increase priorities. I'm happy to commit
> this patch but have to analyze it's impact on binary compatibility of cbp
> files first. If it breaks BC we need to find a solution (again) to support
> multiple OModel versions first. This will take however quite some time. I'm
> afraid I can't find the time to review before my vacation, which end oct 5.
>
Can you provide some pointers to check binary compatibility of cbp files, so
that I'm happy test this scenario.


Thanks,
Waruna



>
> Best,
>  Tammo
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
> Am 21.09.2010 um 16:09 schrieb Bob Brodt <bb...@redhat.com>:
>
>
>  Hi devs,
>>
>> I was just wondering what the status is of
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-841 (extension activities) and
>> if we can expect this feature to be in 1.3.5
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> _______________________________________
>> Robert ("Bob") Brodt
>> Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
>> JBoss by Red Hat
>>
>


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Re: Extension activities

Posted by Waruna Ranasinghe <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tammo,
Since we are going to re-introduce Runtime/OModel versioning, do I still
need to test for binary compatibility of cbp file.
I think, its better to introduce Runtime/OModel versioning first and then
the extension support.


Thanks,
Waruna

On 21 September 2010 20:24, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> This feature was low priority as nobody was really pushing for it. If you
> need this feature we can of course increase priorities. I'm happy to commit
> this patch but have to analyze it's impact on binary compatibility of cbp
> files first. If it breaks BC we need to find a solution (again) to support
> multiple OModel versions first. This will take however quite some time. I'm
> afraid I can't find the time to review before my vacation, which end oct 5.
>
> Best,
>  Tammo
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
> Am 21.09.2010 um 16:09 schrieb Bob Brodt <bb...@redhat.com>:
>
>
>  Hi devs,
>>
>> I was just wondering what the status is of
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-841 (extension activities) and
>> if we can expect this feature to be in 1.3.5
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> _______________________________________
>> Robert ("Bob") Brodt
>> Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
>> JBoss by Red Hat
>>
>


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Re: Extension activities

Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Hi Bob,

This feature was low priority as nobody was really pushing for it. If  
you need this feature we can of course increase priorities. I'm happy  
to commit this patch but have to analyze it's impact on binary  
compatibility of cbp files first. If it breaks BC we need to find a  
solution (again) to support multiple OModel versions first. This will  
take however quite some time. I'm afraid I can't find the time to  
review before my vacation, which end oct 5.

Best,
   Tammo

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 21.09.2010 um 16:09 schrieb Bob Brodt <bb...@redhat.com>:

> Hi devs,
>
> I was just wondering what the status is of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-841 
>  (extension activities) and if we can expect this feature to be in  
> 1.3.5
>
> Thanks!
>
> _______________________________________
> Robert ("Bob") Brodt
> Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
> JBoss by Red Hat

Extension activities

Posted by Bob Brodt <bb...@redhat.com>.
Hi devs,

I was just wondering what the status is of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-841 (extension activities) and if we can expect this feature to be in 1.3.5

Thanks!

_______________________________________
Robert ("Bob") Brodt
Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Riftsaw
JBoss by Red Hat

[jira] Commented: (ODE-873) Custom log activity for BPEL

Posted by "Tammo van Lessen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Tammo van Lessen commented on ODE-873:
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Great! I think its a helpful feature, too.

I think we should base it on ODE-841 (extension activities), that needs to be applied first. With this patch, it's basically a 10-liner (without config settings). Before applying ODE-841, we should raise a discussion about binary compatibility of CBP files and find a solution.

> Custom log activity for BPEL
> ----------------------------
>
>                 Key: ODE-873
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-873
>             Project: ODE
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: BPEL Runtime
>            Reporter: Milinda Lakmal Pathirage
>
> It'll be good if we can provide users with a custom activity(for example log activity) that users can use to log messages, variables and other possible information in the BPEL processes. 
> WDYT?

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[jira] Commented: (ODE-873) Custom log activity for BPEL

Posted by "Veresh Jain (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Veresh Jain commented on ODE-873:
---------------------------------

I think it will be really helpful. +1

> Custom log activity for BPEL
> ----------------------------
>
>                 Key: ODE-873
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-873
>             Project: ODE
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: BPEL Runtime
>            Reporter: Milinda Lakmal Pathirage
>
> It'll be good if we can provide users with a custom activity(for example log activity) that users can use to log messages, variables and other possible information in the BPEL processes. 
> WDYT?

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