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Advice for 3rd party deps not in public repos

Hi all,

I'm moving the JOOReports and JOOConverter 
(http://jooreports.sourceforge.net) open source projects to a 
maven2-based build, with an eye to publishing the artifacts to a public 
repository.

The migration was very easy thanks to the excellent documentation, 
especially "Better Builds with Maven".

Now for the issue.   JOOConverter converts between different document 
formats using OpenOffice.org automation.  To do so it depends on some 
jars provided by OpenOffice.org.  These jars are included in any 
OpenOffice.org installation.  They aren *not* available in any public 
maven repository.  I've raised an issue with the OOo team asking them to 
publish the jars but I'll be very surprised if they actually listen to 
that request.

I'd like some advice on how to declare them as dependencies, so that 
projects that in turn depends on JOOConverter will get them as 
transitive dependencies with minimum effort.  Options I see are

1. install OOo jars manually on the local m2 repo with mvn 
install:install-file; users will have to do the same; or

2. declare OOo jars as system dependencies, e.g.

    <dependency>
      <groupId>org.openoffice</groupId>
      <artifactId>unoil</artifactId>
      <version>2.0</version>
      <scope>system</scope>
      <systemPath>${openoffice.home}/program/classes/unoil.jar</systemPath>
    </dependency>
 
  and have users pass

   mvn -Dopenoffice.home=/path/to/their/openoffice ...

  (but system jars don't seem to get packaged e.g. in webapps)

A third (and probably the best) option would be to publish these jars 
under the JOOConverter groupId, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to do this 
since I'm not the author.

Thanks

Mirko


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Re: Advice for 3rd party deps not in public repos

Posted by Mirko Nasato <mi...@artofsolving.com>.
Mirko Nasato wrote:
>
>>> I've raised an issue with the OOo team asking them to publish the 
>>> jars but I'll be very surprised if they actually listen to that 
>>> request.
>>>
Actually I have to take this back; seems like they'll let me maintain 
the OOo jars on ibiblio. :)

Best regards

Mirko


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Re: Advice for 3rd party deps not in public repos

Posted by Mirko Nasato <mi...@artofsolving.com>.
Hi Nicolas,

Nicolas DE LOOF wrote:
>
> The best solution would be to get those jar published by Oo.org 
> themselve.
> Did you try to contact them for this ? You may sugget your home mades 
> POMs to openoffice developpers for approval prior to creating an 
> upload request. Notice those POMs are not required to be used to build 
> the artifact, they only need to describe them, so Oo.org developer 
> don't have to migrate there build process to be maven compliant.
>
I agree that it would be the best solution.  As I mentioned I did raise 
an issue with the OOo team

  http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=71358

but honestly I don't really expect them to do it.  They seem to be quite 
slow in responding to requests, and they probably give higher priority 
to improving OOo as a desktop application rather than as a tool that can 
be integrated in other (possibly server-side) applications.

I'll try submitting some POMs as you said, then wait a week or so and if 
they don't reply then ask for permission to publish the JARs myself.  If 
after that they still don't answer I'll just try and get them published 
anyway.  They're LGPL after all.

Thanks

Mirko

>
>
> Mirko Nasato a écrit :
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm moving the JOOReports and JOOConverter 
>> (http://jooreports.sourceforge.net) open source projects to a 
>> maven2-based build, with an eye to publishing the artifacts to a 
>> public repository.
>>
>> The migration was very easy thanks to the excellent documentation, 
>> especially "Better Builds with Maven".
>>
>> Now for the issue.   JOOConverter converts between different document 
>> formats using OpenOffice.org automation.  To do so it depends on some 
>> jars provided by OpenOffice.org.  These jars are included in any 
>> OpenOffice.org installation.  They aren *not* available in any public 
>> maven repository.  I've raised an issue with the OOo team asking them 
>> to publish the jars but I'll be very surprised if they actually 
>> listen to that request.
>>
>> I'd like some advice on how to declare them as dependencies, so that 
>> projects that in turn depends on JOOConverter will get them as 
>> transitive dependencies with minimum effort.  Options I see are
>>
>> 1. install OOo jars manually on the local m2 repo with mvn 
>> install:install-file; users will have to do the same; or
>>
>> 2. declare OOo jars as system dependencies, e.g.
>>
>>    <dependency>
>>      <groupId>org.openoffice</groupId>
>>      <artifactId>unoil</artifactId>
>>      <version>2.0</version>
>>      <scope>system</scope>
>>      
>> <systemPath>${openoffice.home}/program/classes/unoil.jar</systemPath>
>>    </dependency>
>>
>>  and have users pass
>>
>>   mvn -Dopenoffice.home=/path/to/their/openoffice ...
>>
>>  (but system jars don't seem to get packaged e.g. in webapps)
>>
>> A third (and probably the best) option would be to publish these jars 
>> under the JOOConverter groupId, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to do 
>> this since I'm not the author.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mirko
>>
>>
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Re: Advice for 3rd party deps not in public repos

Posted by Nicolas DE LOOF <ni...@capgemini.com>.

You can create POMs for those artifacts and create an upload bundle. 
Then publish a request on Jira for uploading.
http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-central-repository-upload.html

The best solution would be to get those jar published by Oo.org themselve.
Did you try to contact them for this ? You may sugget your home mades 
POMs to openoffice developpers for approval prior to creating an upload 
request. Notice those POMs are not required to be used to build the 
artifact, they only need to describe them, so Oo.org developer don't 
have to migrate there build process to be maven compliant.

Nico.


Mirko Nasato a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I'm moving the JOOReports and JOOConverter 
> (http://jooreports.sourceforge.net) open source projects to a 
> maven2-based build, with an eye to publishing the artifacts to a 
> public repository.
>
> The migration was very easy thanks to the excellent documentation, 
> especially "Better Builds with Maven".
>
> Now for the issue.   JOOConverter converts between different document 
> formats using OpenOffice.org automation.  To do so it depends on some 
> jars provided by OpenOffice.org.  These jars are included in any 
> OpenOffice.org installation.  They aren *not* available in any public 
> maven repository.  I've raised an issue with the OOo team asking them 
> to publish the jars but I'll be very surprised if they actually listen 
> to that request.
>
> I'd like some advice on how to declare them as dependencies, so that 
> projects that in turn depends on JOOConverter will get them as 
> transitive dependencies with minimum effort.  Options I see are
>
> 1. install OOo jars manually on the local m2 repo with mvn 
> install:install-file; users will have to do the same; or
>
> 2. declare OOo jars as system dependencies, e.g.
>
>    <dependency>
>      <groupId>org.openoffice</groupId>
>      <artifactId>unoil</artifactId>
>      <version>2.0</version>
>      <scope>system</scope>
>      
> <systemPath>${openoffice.home}/program/classes/unoil.jar</systemPath>
>    </dependency>
>
>  and have users pass
>
>   mvn -Dopenoffice.home=/path/to/their/openoffice ...
>
>  (but system jars don't seem to get packaged e.g. in webapps)
>
> A third (and probably the best) option would be to publish these jars 
> under the JOOConverter groupId, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to do 
> this since I'm not the author.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mirko
>
>
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