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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> on 2016/07/21 19:26:08 UTC
Donations?
In looking at the web pages to see where to insert mentoring offers
etc., I noticed that https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html has
a link to "make a small donation". Does that collect any money, and if
so might it help with buildbot costs?
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RE: Donations?
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
I haven't been following that either. I am not certain it is settled.
I have the sense that this is not about small donations.
I should also say that "earmarked" is the actual term I've seen, not "on-account," although that is probably not a material difference.
- Dennis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pescetti@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 09:03
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Donations?
>
> Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> > It happens there are some funds "on-account" at the ASF that are
> available to OpenOffice. Those arrived in an unusual manner in the
> early history of the project. That exception is unlikely to repeat.
>
> Not so unlikely. Targeted donations are among the (many) new features
> the current Board was going to enable. But honestly I don't know the
> status of this.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
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Re: Donations?
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> It happens there are some funds "on-account" at the ASF that are available to OpenOffice. Those arrived in an unusual manner in the early history of the project. That exception is unlikely to repeat.
Not so unlikely. Targeted donations are among the (many) new features
the current Board was going to enable. But honestly I don't know the
status of this.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Donations?
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
I find this rather disturbing. Most non-profits to which I donate have
some provision for designating a subgroup to benefit from the money. For
example, if I write a check to "San Diego City College Foundation" and
write "Robotics" in the memo field, it shows up as money the San Diego
City College Robotics team can spend.
If Apache only manages funds on a whole foundation basis, I will
probably never add ASF to my donation list.
On 7/21/2016 5:02 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Apache OpenOffice does not receive donations and does not manage a budget.
>
> It happens there are some funds "on-account" at the ASF that are available to OpenOffice. Those arrived in an unusual manner in the early history of the project. That exception is unlikely to repeat.
>
> Generally, the Apache Software Foundation has a budget and manages funds. There are treasurer reports in every monthly Board Report at the foundation level. You can see those at
> <http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html>.
>
> In some case, projects can request that funds available for some purpose be expended on behalf of the project. For example, application for and renewal of trademark registrations is done by requests to the VP Branding. That VP will make requests for budget to cover anticipated expenses of that kind. Similarly, Infrastructure might be worked with to fund the contract labor and any hardware and operating costs of build slaves dedicated for OpenOffice use.
>
> - Dennis
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexandro Colorado [mailto:jza@gultab.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 15:22
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Donations?
>>
>> Unfortunately this community hasnt been very vocal about budgeting and
>> is
>> very lurky to know if we have any funds at all at the end of the day, we
>> used to have very clear reports:
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/B
>> udget_2011
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 07/21/2016 09:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>>>
>>>> In looking at the web pages to see where to insert mentoring offers
>>>> etc., I noticed that https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
>> has
>>>> a link to "make a small donation". Does that collect any money, and
>> if
>>>>
>>>
>>> good question. But only the Apache treasury can answer this. Please
>> note
>>> the you don't donate to a special project but to the whole foundation.
>> And
>>> the foundation is giving it to the projects.
>>>
>>> so might it help with buildbot costs?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You mean getting the hardware and the Infra maintenance paid? I don't
>> know
>>> of other costs.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexandro Colorado
>> GULTab.org
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>> Blog: http://www.alexandrocolorado.org/
>> <http://www.alexandrocolorado.com/blog/>
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RE: Donations?
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Apache OpenOffice does not receive donations and does not manage a budget.
It happens there are some funds "on-account" at the ASF that are available to OpenOffice. Those arrived in an unusual manner in the early history of the project. That exception is unlikely to repeat.
Generally, the Apache Software Foundation has a budget and manages funds. There are treasurer reports in every monthly Board Report at the foundation level. You can see those at
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html>.
In some case, projects can request that funds available for some purpose be expended on behalf of the project. For example, application for and renewal of trademark registrations is done by requests to the VP Branding. That VP will make requests for budget to cover anticipated expenses of that kind. Similarly, Infrastructure might be worked with to fund the contract labor and any hardware and operating costs of build slaves dedicated for OpenOffice use.
- Dennis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandro Colorado [mailto:jza@gultab.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 15:22
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Donations?
>
> Unfortunately this community hasnt been very vocal about budgeting and
> is
> very lurky to know if we have any funds at all at the end of the day, we
> used to have very clear reports:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/B
> udget_2011
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
> > Am 07/21/2016 09:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> >
> >> In looking at the web pages to see where to insert mentoring offers
> >> etc., I noticed that https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
> has
> >> a link to "make a small donation". Does that collect any money, and
> if
> >>
> >
> > good question. But only the Apache treasury can answer this. Please
> note
> > the you don't donate to a special project but to the whole foundation.
> And
> > the foundation is giving it to the projects.
> >
> > so might it help with buildbot costs?
> >>
> >
> > You mean getting the hardware and the Infra maintenance paid? I don't
> know
> > of other costs.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> GULTab.org
> Linux User # 319286
> Blog: http://www.alexandrocolorado.org/
> <http://www.alexandrocolorado.com/blog/>
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Re: Donations?
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@gultab.org>.
Unfortunately this community hasnt been very vocal about budgeting and is
very lurky to know if we have any funds at all at the end of the day, we
used to have very clear reports:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2011
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 07/21/2016 09:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>
>> In looking at the web pages to see where to insert mentoring offers
>> etc., I noticed that https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html has
>> a link to "make a small donation". Does that collect any money, and if
>>
>
> good question. But only the Apache treasury can answer this. Please note
> the you don't donate to a special project but to the whole foundation. And
> the foundation is giving it to the projects.
>
> so might it help with buildbot costs?
>>
>
> You mean getting the hardware and the Infra maintenance paid? I don't know
> of other costs.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
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Re: Donations?
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/21/2016 09:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> In looking at the web pages to see where to insert mentoring offers
> etc., I noticed that https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html has
> a link to "make a small donation". Does that collect any money, and if
good question. But only the Apache treasury can answer this. Please note
the you don't donate to a special project but to the whole foundation.
And the foundation is giving it to the projects.
> so might it help with buildbot costs?
You mean getting the hardware and the Infra maintenance paid? I don't
know of other costs.
Marcus
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Re: Donations?
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@gultab.org>.
What exactly will this bot do?
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
> In looking at the web pages to see where to insert mentoring offers etc.,
> I noticed that https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html has a link
> to "make a small donation". Does that collect any money, and if so might it
> help with buildbot costs?
>
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>
--
Alexandro Colorado
GULTab.org
Linux User # 319286
Blog: http://www.alexandrocolorado.org/
<http://www.alexandrocolorado.com/blog/>