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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by Athar Shiraz Siddiqui <at...@gmail.com> on 2008/05/13 14:39:33 UTC
Wrote the Install Utility
I sent the following email to dev but it apparently didn't make it. I
didn't hear any feedback. I know this installation package for windows
might not be the greatest contribution but I was hoping for some
feedback from someone? I think this is exciting. If someone would be
kind enough to give me some user feedback or way of putting this for
the end user it would be great.
from Athar Shiraz Siddiqui <at...@gmail.com>
to James Dev <se...@james.apache.org>,
date Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:33 PM
subject Installation Executable for James 2.3.1 ready.
mailed-by gmail.com
I have the installation script for James 2.3.1 for windows OS is ready.
I would like to send it to someone for testing on a windows OS. I did
it for our own environment but it might be useful for future.
Please keep in mind that I am not very well versed with windows
development and my skills in this arena are limited.
It is very simple and basic right now.
It does the following :
0) checks for JVM installation in registry if missing it gives an
error and quits.
0.1) requests to accept End User License Agreement (Apache)
1) prompt for user info (optional)
2) prompts for install directory
3) gives window with summary of installation
4) installs
5) gives a readme file
6) finish window.
It has the other basic uninstall features (puts it in add/remove
programs) and allows for un-installation.
What I would like to incorporate in the next release:
1) check for third party installed pre requisite software (like java
and you gave me that already thanks!) but if third party pre requisite
not found install it for the user.
2) provide a check box (as in mysql install) that provides options
asking the user "Do you want to install this as a "Service"? if
checked (yes install as a service) then it runs an executable with an
option that installs the software as a service
3) allow a user to do "custom installs" pick features like "install
this feature, do not install that feature" etc.
4) allow a user to post icons on the desktop or the quick launch
folder that automatically runs run.bat
5) allow a user to change the default "user" and "password" for admin
features (and go into an xml file to put that user and password)
6) allow a user to configure other options in an xml file like
"hostname" or some other value of an xml field that usually requires
mucking with an xml file
7) provide a front end for editing the xml file.
8) provide a front end (windows based) for administering the james mail server.
Shiraz
p.s. I would like to start contributing to the actual james server
please and see if we can have a plan to revamp this to the latest JDK
1.5 or later (if its not too ambitious). To begin I would like to
create useful docs on the server (for newbies like me).
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Al Stu <Al...@SimonSlick.com>.
Be sure to read the reference [2] article too. Very interesting.
Here is the link for your convenience.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/07/amazon_hey_spammers_get_off_my.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Interesting, thanks for the link!
I'll discuss it with the other engineers.
Al Stu wrote:
> What good is it if it does not work?
>
> Abuse
> In early July 2008 Outblaze and Spamhaus.org started to block Amazon's EC2
> address pool due to massive spam and malware distribution problems. Online
> criminals are using Amazon's service, because complaints against paying
> customers will not result in a ban of the account, only termination of the
> offending instance. The spammer or spyware distributor then creates
> another
> instance, which gets a new IP address, and continues with its malicious
> activity. [2]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
> To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>
>
> Hi Al,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> I have James installed in a Fedora box and a CentOS EC2 instance, so I'm
> aware that James runs in Linux.
>
> An advantage of using Amazon EC2 over "real hosting providers" is that
> I can bring up/down servers, and server clusters very rapidly.
>
> This helps me scale very quickly, depending on my business needs.
>
> - Rex
>
>
> Al Stu wrote:
>
>> Why go through all that trouble? Just get a real hosting provider for
>> your
>> James server.
>>
>> These folks are really good, experts at Linux and have recently added
>> Windows to there service offerings.
>>
>> http://BestWebHostEver.homelinux.com
>> "Root is everything"
>>
>> I'm running a Linux VPS from them and have found them to be top notch.
>> Initial provisioning, reinstalls, reboots, etc. all automated (Linux only
>> for now, I'm sure they are heading there with their Windows offerings
>> too).
>> And because they have their own block of IP addresses they are able to
>> provide ability for you to have an appropriate reverse PTR record for you
>> mail server. Some ISP's will not accept email from MTA's/MX's that do
>> not
>> have a matching reverse PTR record.
>>
>> Java VM runs on Linux too you know, not just Windows.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
>> To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>
>>
>> Found what the issue was.
>>
>> My James installation lives in an Amazon EC2 image. This has the effect
>> of James assigning itself the wrong dnsdomainname.
>>
>> I'm working on a solution where I am will be forwarding email from a
>> Gmail trusted host to my EC2 instances.
>>
>> - Rex
>>
>>
>> Max Impact wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves.
>>> Google
>>> takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my
>>> server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would
>>> shurely fail).
>>>
>>> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's
>>> you
>>> you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
>>>
>>> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may
>>> also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of
>>> options
>>> and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
>>>
>>> Good luck ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
>>>> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
>>>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>>>
>>>> Rex,
>>>>
>>>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
>>>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
>>>> gmail inbox?
>>>>
>>>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
>>>> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
>>>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
>>>> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account,
>>>>> and my
>>>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So,
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the
>>>>> email
>>>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's
>>>>> a
>>>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look
>>>>> at?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
>>>>> blocked.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> - Rex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rex,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually
>>>>>> arriving
>>>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my
>>>>>>> box
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> has James installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James
>>>>>>> receives
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table.
>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Gmail
>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any Ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger
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>>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>.
Interesting, thanks for the link!
I'll discuss it with the other engineers.
Al Stu wrote:
> What good is it if it does not work?
>
> Abuse
> In early July 2008 Outblaze and Spamhaus.org started to block Amazon's EC2
> address pool due to massive spam and malware distribution problems. Online
> criminals are using Amazon's service, because complaints against paying
> customers will not result in a ban of the account, only termination of the
> offending instance. The spammer or spyware distributor then creates another
> instance, which gets a new IP address, and continues with its malicious
> activity. [2]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
> To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>
>
> Hi Al,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> I have James installed in a Fedora box and a CentOS EC2 instance, so I'm
> aware that James runs in Linux.
>
> An advantage of using Amazon EC2 over "real hosting providers" is that
> I can bring up/down servers, and server clusters very rapidly.
>
> This helps me scale very quickly, depending on my business needs.
>
> - Rex
>
>
> Al Stu wrote:
>
>> Why go through all that trouble? Just get a real hosting provider for
>> your
>> James server.
>>
>> These folks are really good, experts at Linux and have recently added
>> Windows to there service offerings.
>>
>> http://BestWebHostEver.homelinux.com
>> "Root is everything"
>>
>> I'm running a Linux VPS from them and have found them to be top notch.
>> Initial provisioning, reinstalls, reboots, etc. all automated (Linux only
>> for now, I'm sure they are heading there with their Windows offerings
>> too).
>> And because they have their own block of IP addresses they are able to
>> provide ability for you to have an appropriate reverse PTR record for you
>> mail server. Some ISP's will not accept email from MTA's/MX's that do not
>> have a matching reverse PTR record.
>>
>> Java VM runs on Linux too you know, not just Windows.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
>> To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>
>>
>> Found what the issue was.
>>
>> My James installation lives in an Amazon EC2 image. This has the effect
>> of James assigning itself the wrong dnsdomainname.
>>
>> I'm working on a solution where I am will be forwarding email from a
>> Gmail trusted host to my EC2 instances.
>>
>> - Rex
>>
>>
>> Max Impact wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. Google
>>> takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my
>>> server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would
>>> shurely fail).
>>>
>>> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's
>>> you
>>> you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
>>>
>>> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may
>>> also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of options
>>> and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
>>>
>>> Good luck ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
>>>> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
>>>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>>>
>>>> Rex,
>>>>
>>>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
>>>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
>>>> gmail inbox?
>>>>
>>>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
>>>> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
>>>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
>>>> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account,
>>>>> and my
>>>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
>>>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the
>>>>> email
>>>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
>>>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
>>>>> blocked.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> - Rex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rex,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
>>>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
>>>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my
>>>>>>> box
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> has James installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table.
>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
>>>>>>> Gmail
>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any Ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger
>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719649/direct/01/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Al Stu <Al...@SimonSlick.com>.
What good is it if it does not work?
Abuse
In early July 2008 Outblaze and Spamhaus.org started to block Amazon's EC2
address pool due to massive spam and malware distribution problems. Online
criminals are using Amazon's service, because complaints against paying
customers will not result in a ban of the account, only termination of the
offending instance. The spammer or spyware distributor then creates another
instance, which gets a new IP address, and continues with its malicious
activity. [2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Hi Al,
Thanks for the response.
I have James installed in a Fedora box and a CentOS EC2 instance, so I'm
aware that James runs in Linux.
An advantage of using Amazon EC2 over "real hosting providers" is that
I can bring up/down servers, and server clusters very rapidly.
This helps me scale very quickly, depending on my business needs.
- Rex
Al Stu wrote:
> Why go through all that trouble? Just get a real hosting provider for
> your
> James server.
>
> These folks are really good, experts at Linux and have recently added
> Windows to there service offerings.
>
> http://BestWebHostEver.homelinux.com
> "Root is everything"
>
> I'm running a Linux VPS from them and have found them to be top notch.
> Initial provisioning, reinstalls, reboots, etc. all automated (Linux only
> for now, I'm sure they are heading there with their Windows offerings
> too).
> And because they have their own block of IP addresses they are able to
> provide ability for you to have an appropriate reverse PTR record for you
> mail server. Some ISP's will not accept email from MTA's/MX's that do not
> have a matching reverse PTR record.
>
> Java VM runs on Linux too you know, not just Windows.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
> To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>
>
> Found what the issue was.
>
> My James installation lives in an Amazon EC2 image. This has the effect
> of James assigning itself the wrong dnsdomainname.
>
> I'm working on a solution where I am will be forwarding email from a
> Gmail trusted host to my EC2 instances.
>
> - Rex
>
>
> Max Impact wrote:
>
>> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. Google
>> takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my
>> server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would
>> shurely fail).
>>
>> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's
>> you
>> you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
>>
>> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may
>> also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of options
>> and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
>>
>> Good luck ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
>>> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
>>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>>
>>> Rex,
>>>
>>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
>>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
>>> gmail inbox?
>>>
>>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
>>> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
>>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
>>> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>>
>>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account,
>>>> and my
>>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
>>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>>>>
>>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the
>>>> email
>>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>>>>
>>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
>>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
>>>>
>>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
>>>> blocked.
>>>>
>>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>
>>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
>>>> thanks,
>>>> - Rex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rex,
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
>>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
>>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> To all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my
>>>>>> box
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> has James installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table.
>>>>>> For
>>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
>>>>>> Gmail
>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any Ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rex
>>>>>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>.
Hi Al,
Thanks for the response.
I have James installed in a Fedora box and a CentOS EC2 instance, so I'm
aware that James runs in Linux.
An advantage of using Amazon EC2 over "real hosting providers" is that
I can bring up/down servers, and server clusters very rapidly.
This helps me scale very quickly, depending on my business needs.
- Rex
Al Stu wrote:
> Why go through all that trouble? Just get a real hosting provider for your
> James server.
>
> These folks are really good, experts at Linux and have recently added
> Windows to there service offerings.
>
> http://BestWebHostEver.homelinux.com
> "Root is everything"
>
> I'm running a Linux VPS from them and have found them to be top notch.
> Initial provisioning, reinstalls, reboots, etc. all automated (Linux only
> for now, I'm sure they are heading there with their Windows offerings too).
> And because they have their own block of IP addresses they are able to
> provide ability for you to have an appropriate reverse PTR record for you
> mail server. Some ISP's will not accept email from MTA's/MX's that do not
> have a matching reverse PTR record.
>
> Java VM runs on Linux too you know, not just Windows.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
> To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>
>
> Found what the issue was.
>
> My James installation lives in an Amazon EC2 image. This has the effect
> of James assigning itself the wrong dnsdomainname.
>
> I'm working on a solution where I am will be forwarding email from a
> Gmail trusted host to my EC2 instances.
>
> - Rex
>
>
> Max Impact wrote:
>
>> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. Google
>> takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my
>> server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would
>> shurely fail).
>>
>> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's you
>> you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
>>
>> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may
>> also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of options
>> and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
>>
>> Good luck ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
>>> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
>>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>>
>>> Rex,
>>>
>>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
>>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
>>> gmail inbox?
>>>
>>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
>>> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
>>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
>>> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>>
>>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account,
>>>> and my
>>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
>>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>>>>
>>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the
>>>> email
>>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>>>>
>>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
>>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
>>>>
>>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
>>>> blocked.
>>>>
>>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>
>>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
>>>> thanks,
>>>> - Rex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rex,
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
>>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
>>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> To all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> has James installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table.
>>>>>> For
>>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
>>>>>> Gmail
>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any Ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Al Stu <Al...@SimonSlick.com>.
Why go through all that trouble? Just get a real hosting provider for your
James server.
These folks are really good, experts at Linux and have recently added
Windows to there service offerings.
http://BestWebHostEver.homelinux.com
"Root is everything"
I'm running a Linux VPS from them and have found them to be top notch.
Initial provisioning, reinstalls, reboots, etc. all automated (Linux only
for now, I'm sure they are heading there with their Windows offerings too).
And because they have their own block of IP addresses they are able to
provide ability for you to have an appropriate reverse PTR record for you
mail server. Some ISP's will not accept email from MTA's/MX's that do not
have a matching reverse PTR record.
Java VM runs on Linux too you know, not just Windows.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Posadas" <re...@kalexo.com>
To: "James Users List" <se...@james.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Found what the issue was.
My James installation lives in an Amazon EC2 image. This has the effect
of James assigning itself the wrong dnsdomainname.
I'm working on a solution where I am will be forwarding email from a
Gmail trusted host to my EC2 instances.
- Rex
Max Impact wrote:
> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. Google
> takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my
> server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would
> shurely fail).
>
> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's you
> you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
>
> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may
> also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of options
> and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
>
> Good luck ;)
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
>> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>
>> Rex,
>>
>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
>> gmail inbox?
>>
>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
>> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>>
>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
>> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>
>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account,
>>> and my
>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>>>
>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the
>>> email
>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>>>
>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
>>>
>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
>>> blocked.
>>>
>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>
>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
>>> thanks,
>>> - Rex
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rex,
>>>>
>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>>>
>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box
>>>>> that
>>>>> has James installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives
>>>>> my
>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running
>>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table.
>>>>> For
>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This
>>>>> works
>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
>>>>> Gmail
>>>>> account.
>>>>>
>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rex
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>.
Found what the issue was.
My James installation lives in an Amazon EC2 image. This has the effect
of James assigning itself the wrong dnsdomainname.
I'm working on a solution where I am will be forwarding email from a
Gmail trusted host to my EC2 instances.
- Rex
Max Impact wrote:
> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. Google takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would shurely fail).
>
> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's you you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
>
> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of options and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
>
> Good luck ;)
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
>> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>
>> Rex,
>>
>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
>> gmail inbox?
>>
>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
>> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>>
>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
>> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>
>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account, and my
>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>>>
>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the email
>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>>>
>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
>>>
>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
>>> blocked.
>>>
>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>
>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
>>> thanks,
>>> - Rex
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rex,
>>>>
>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>>>
>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box
>>>>> that
>>>>> has James installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives my
>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running with
>>>>> a
>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table. For
>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This
>>>>> works
>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
>>>>> Gmail
>>>>> account.
>>>>>
>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rex
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>.
Thanks for the response, Max.
Sending email to James using my Yahoo account as well as my work account
works fine. James receives the email.
I don't know if it matters, but I have James running on an EC2 instance
(Amazon). http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=201590011
So, i'm sending an email from my Google account to an elastic IP. So,
if my elastic ip is "myelascticIP.com" . i'm sending it to something
like: "rex@myelascticIP.com".
Here's a definition for Elastic IPs, just in case you're curious:
*Elastic IP Addresses*
Elastic IP addresses are static IP addresses designed for dynamic cloud
computing. An Elastic IP address is associated with your account not a
particular instance, and you control that address until you choose to
explicitly release it. Unlike traditional static IP addresses, however,
Elastic IP addresses allow you to mask instance or Availability Zone
failures by programmatically remapping your public IP addresses to any
instance in your account. Rather than waiting on a data technician to
reconfigure or replace your host, or waiting for DNS to propagate to all
of your customers, Amazon EC2 enables you to engineer around problems
with your instance or software by quickly remapping your Elastic IP
address to a replacement instance.
Thanks,
- Rex
Max Impact wrote:
> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. Google takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would shurely fail).
>
> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's you you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
>
> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of options and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
>
> Good luck ;)
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
>> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>>
>> Rex,
>>
>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
>> gmail inbox?
>>
>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
>> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>>
>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
>> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>
>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account, and my
>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>>>
>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the email
>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>>>
>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
>>>
>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
>>> blocked.
>>>
>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>
>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
>>> thanks,
>>> - Rex
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rex,
>>>>
>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>>>
>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box
>>>>> that
>>>>> has James installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives my
>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running with
>>>>> a
>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table. For
>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This
>>>>> works
>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
>>>>> Gmail
>>>>> account.
>>>>>
>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rex
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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RE: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Max Impact <ma...@live.co.uk>.
I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. Google takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would shurely fail).
Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's you you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you.
Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of options and if you still not recieving considder it a problem.
Good luck ;)
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900
> From: ianmlewis@gmail.com
> To: server-user@james.apache.org
> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
>
> Rex,
>
> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
> gmail inbox?
>
> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
> not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
>
> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
> the mail really isn't making it to your server.
>
> Ian
>
> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
> > Hi Ian,
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account, and my
> > work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
> > pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
> >
> > 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the email
> > coming in and put it's data in the DB.
> >
> > 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
> > whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
> >
> > 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
> > blocked.
> >
> > 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
> >
> > I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
> > thanks,
> > - Rex
> >
> >
> > Ian Lewis wrote:
> >>
> >> Rex,
> >>
> >> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
> >> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
> >> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
> >>
> >> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> To all,
> >>>
> >>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box
> >>> that
> >>> has James installed.
> >>>
> >>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives my
> >>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
> >>>
> >>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running with
> >>> a
> >>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table. For
> >>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This
> >>> works
> >>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
> >>> Gmail
> >>> account.
> >>>
> >>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
> >>>
> >>> Any Ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Rex
> >>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Ian Lewis <ia...@gmail.com>.
Rex,
If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing
to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your
gmail inbox?
I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might
not like sending to something like user@[238.848.274.929] or some
other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though.
Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if
the mail really isn't making it to your server.
Ian
2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
> Hi Ian,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account, and my
> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, I'm
> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
>
> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the email
> coming in and put it's data in the DB.
>
> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
>
> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
> blocked.
>
> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>
> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
> thanks,
> - Rex
>
>
> Ian Lewis wrote:
>>
>> Rex,
>>
>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>>
>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>>
>>>
>>> To all,
>>>
>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box
>>> that
>>> has James installed.
>>>
>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives my
>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>>
>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running with
>>> a
>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table. For
>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This
>>> works
>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a
>>> Gmail
>>> account.
>>>
>>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>>
>>> Any Ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rex
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>.
Hi Ian,
Thanks for the response.
1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account,
and my work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account.
So, I'm pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet.
2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the
email coming in and put it's data in the DB.
3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's a
whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look at?
4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email
blocked.
5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James.
thanks,
- Rex
Ian Lewis wrote:
> Rex,
>
> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
>
> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
>
> Ian
>
> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
>
>> To all,
>>
>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box that
>> has James installed.
>>
>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives my
>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>>
>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running with a
>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table. For
>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This works
>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a Gmail
>> account.
>>
>> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rex
>>
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>>
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Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Ian Lewis <ia...@gmail.com>.
Rex,
Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually arriving
at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you could
check the mailet log file to see what might be happening.
Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail?
Ian
2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>:
> To all,
>
> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box that
> has James installed.
>
> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives my
> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
>
> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running with a
> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table. For
> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. This works
> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with a Gmail
> account.
>
> James is installed in CentOS 5.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rex
>
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James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail
Posted by Rex Posadas <re...@kalexo.com>.
To all,
I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my box
that has James installed.
The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James receives my
email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine.
When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running
with a custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB
table. For example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in
a DB. This works when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account -
but not with a Gmail account.
James is installed in CentOS 5.
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Rex
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Re: Wrote the Install Utility
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>.
Moving this thread over from user to dev list.
Athar Shiraz Siddiqui wrote:
> I did subscribe to the dev list and I emailed Stefano individually. I
> thought someone would be excited about this and email me back.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Bernd Fondermann
> <bf...@brainlounge.de> wrote:
>> Shiraz,
>>
>> Your email didn't reach the list, probably is stuck in moderation. Mails go
>> easily through when you are sending from the actual mail account which you
>> have subscribed to the list.
>
> Well I was able to send the email to the dev list before. Did someone
> unsubscribe me. I just started with this list and I said a few days
> ago that I was going to pick up the task of writing the windows
> install utility.
Please check again if you are properly subscribe or try again to subscribe.
>> Every contribution is welcome, especially the first one from a new
>> contributor. :-)
>
> Thanks! I have always found all my fellow beings quite helpful be it a
> procmail list or some java related list.
>
>> Before every successful contribution, there is some learning how to
>> contribute in the right way. That means, getting to know how all the people
>> who are contributing to Apache projects do it.
>> For example, see http://james.apache.org/contribute.html , but be sure to
>> study some more reading stuff around James and Apache, which you'd easily
>> find on our website.
>
> Ok I was trying to avoid that but will get on it ASAP.
There is no way around it. Please try to adopt our way of working together!
>
>> After that, I am sure you are aware of our open source philosophy, that
>> everything is about working together and writing source code.
>> That means sharing the actual code.
>
> Absolutely. The only thing is that I am using a setup utility that
> builds this executable. I can provide the project file for it if you
> wish but a special setup utility may need to be used to read the
> script.
This is not a good idea. Being an open source project, everybody must be
able to maintain the setup, without buying any software or working on a
specific OS.
> If that is unworkable I can begin with the VC++ version of it ASAP.
I think it is a better idea to work with a Java based installer. see
http://java-source.net/open-source/installer-generators
for some.
>> Please note also that the right mailing list for development is not this
>> list, since it is reserved for user questions. Please move the discussion
>> over to the server-dev mailing list.
>
> Done
Didn't work. I moved the thread over.
Please don't cross-post to more than one list.
Please make sure you are properly subscribed to server-dev.
>> What technology did you use to write the Windows Installer?
>
> setupbuilder
where do I find that?
is that an open source tool? does it require a license fee?
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Re: Wrote the Install Utility
Posted by Athar Shiraz Siddiqui <at...@gmail.com>.
I did subscribe to the dev list and I emailed Stefano individually. I
thought someone would be excited about this and email me back.
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Bernd Fondermann
<bf...@brainlounge.de> wrote:
> Shiraz,
>
> Your email didn't reach the list, probably is stuck in moderation. Mails go
> easily through when you are sending from the actual mail account which you
> have subscribed to the list.
Well I was able to send the email to the dev list before. Did someone
unsubscribe me. I just started with this list and I said a few days
ago that I was going to pick up the task of writing the windows
install utility.
> Every contribution is welcome, especially the first one from a new
> contributor. :-)
Thanks! I have always found all my fellow beings quite helpful be it a
procmail list or some java related list.
> Before every successful contribution, there is some learning how to
> contribute in the right way. That means, getting to know how all the people
> who are contributing to Apache projects do it.
> For example, see http://james.apache.org/contribute.html , but be sure to
> study some more reading stuff around James and Apache, which you'd easily
> find on our website.
Ok I was trying to avoid that but will get on it ASAP.
> After that, I am sure you are aware of our open source philosophy, that
> everything is about working together and writing source code.
> That means sharing the actual code.
Absolutely. The only thing is that I am using a setup utility that
builds this executable. I can provide the project file for it if you
wish but a special setup utility may need to be used to read the
script.
If that is unworkable I can begin with the VC++ version of it ASAP.
> Please note also that the right mailing list for development is not this
> list, since it is reserved for user questions. Please move the discussion
> over to the server-dev mailing list.
Done
> What technology did you use to write the Windows Installer?
setupbuilder
>
> We should also support environment variables like JAVA_HOME, which are often
> used to point to a proper java install.
no problem.
> That's fine, but we would need to see the source code. Could you please get
> familiar with our JIRA tool please and upload it there?
> If you have any questions about it, just ask.
Will get to work on jira etc. asap.
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Re: Wrote the Install Utility
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>.
Shiraz,
Athar Shiraz Siddiqui wrote:
> I sent the following email to dev but it apparently didn't make it. I
> didn't hear any feedback.
Your email didn't reach the list, probably is stuck in moderation. Mails
go easily through when you are sending from the actual mail account
which you have subscribed to the list.
> I know this installation package for windows
> might not be the greatest contribution but I was hoping for some
> feedback from someone?
Every contribution is welcome, especially the first one from a new
contributor. :-)
> I think this is exciting. If someone would be
> kind enough to give me some user feedback or way of putting this for
> the end user it would be great.
Before every successful contribution, there is some learning how to
contribute in the right way. That means, getting to know how all the
people who are contributing to Apache projects do it.
For example, see http://james.apache.org/contribute.html , but be sure
to study some more reading stuff around James and Apache, which you'd
easily find on our website.
After that, I am sure you are aware of our open source philosophy, that
everything is about working together and writing source code.
That means sharing the actual code.
Please note also that the right mailing list for development is not this
list, since it is reserved for user questions. Please move the
discussion over to the server-dev mailing list.
More inline...
>
>
> from Athar Shiraz Siddiqui <at...@gmail.com>
> to James Dev <se...@james.apache.org>,
> date Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:33 PM
> subject Installation Executable for James 2.3.1 ready.
> mailed-by gmail.com
> I have the installation script for James 2.3.1 for windows OS is ready.
>
> I would like to send it to someone for testing on a windows OS. I did
> it for our own environment but it might be useful for future.
> Please keep in mind that I am not very well versed with windows
> development and my skills in this arena are limited.
What technology did you use to write the Windows Installer?
> It is very simple and basic right now.
That's fine.
> It does the following :
> 0) checks for JVM installation in registry if missing it gives an
> error and quits.
We should also support environment variables like JAVA_HOME, which are
often used to point to a proper java install.
> 0.1) requests to accept End User License Agreement (Apache)
> 1) prompt for user info (optional)
> 2) prompts for install directory
> 3) gives window with summary of installation
> 4) installs
> 5) gives a readme file
> 6) finish window.
That's fine, but we would need to see the source code. Could you please
get familiar with our JIRA tool please and upload it there?
If you have any questions about it, just ask.
> It has the other basic uninstall features (puts it in add/remove
> programs) and allows for un-installation.
>
> What I would like to incorporate in the next release:
> 1) check for third party installed pre requisite software (like java
> and you gave me that already thanks!) but if third party pre requisite
> not found install it for the user.
> 2) provide a check box (as in mysql install) that provides options
> asking the user "Do you want to install this as a "Service"? if
> checked (yes install as a service) then it runs an executable with an
> option that installs the software as a service
> 3) allow a user to do "custom installs" pick features like "install
> this feature, do not install that feature" etc.
> 4) allow a user to post icons on the desktop or the quick launch
> folder that automatically runs run.bat
> 5) allow a user to change the default "user" and "password" for admin
> features (and go into an xml file to put that user and password)
> 6) allow a user to configure other options in an xml file like
> "hostname" or some other value of an xml field that usually requires
> mucking with an xml file
> 7) provide a front end for editing the xml file.
> 8) provide a front end (windows based) for administering the james mail server.
>
>
> Shiraz
>
> p.s. I would like to start contributing to the actual james server
> please and see if we can have a plan to revamp this to the latest JDK
> 1.5 or later (if its not too ambitious). To begin I would like to
> create useful docs on the server (for newbies like me).
ok, fine. there is a lot of work to do there. ;-)
Bernd
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