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[jira] Created: (VELOCITY-445) Integrate Jython or BeanShell or
Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
Integrate Jython or BeanShell or Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
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Key: VELOCITY-445
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445
Project: Velocity
Type: Improvement
Components: Source
Versions: 1.4
Environment: WindowsXP
Reporter: Colbert Philippe
I do some advanced macro preprocessing using Velocity. I find that Velocity's macro language should be more powerful than what it is. I miss the capabilities of a full featured language. I wish that velocity macro language should be comparable with Perl or Jython or BeanShell.
I strongly suggest that Velocity be reengineered to support a complete macro processing language like Perl or Jython or BeanShell (Jython or BeanShell are already 100% Java). The old macro processing language would disappear, insteand we would enter a scripting language like Jython or BeanShell.
This is necessary in order that Velocity be used as a full-featured macro preprocessing utility.
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Re: [jira] Resolved: (VELOCITY-445) Integrate Jython or BeanShell or
Posted by Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>.
yeah, that would be a very cool thing to put on our 2.0 roadmap.
On 6/27/06, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
> "Nathan Bubna (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> writes:
>
> Actually,
>
> while I agree with "won't fix" here, it would be an interesting thing
> to 'carve' out the Velocity Language from the Velocity environment for
> loading pages, rendering stuff, returning output etc. and make the
> actual page language 'pluggable'.
>
> This is 2.0 stuff, though.
>
> Best regards
> Henning
>
>
>
> > [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445?page=all ]
> >
> >Nathan Bubna resolved VELOCITY-445:
> >-----------------------------------
>
> > Resolution: Won't Fix
>
> >Hi Colbert,
>
> >If you wish to have a full featured language, there are plenty of those available out there. Velocity's aim is to be the "V" in MVC. As such, it has from the beginning been an explicit goal of the Velocity developers to avoid letting VTL become a scripting language. Integration with a scripting language is a blatant step over that line, IMO. You and others are, of course, free to work on this and share it, but it is extremely unlikely that we would accept a patch for this into the core library.
>
> >peace,
> >nate
>
> >> Integrate Jython or BeanShell or Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Key: VELOCITY-445
> >> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445
> >> Project: Velocity
> >> Type: Improvement
>
> >> Components: Source
> >> Versions: 1.4
> >> Environment: WindowsXP
> >> Reporter: Colbert Philippe
>
> >>
> >> I do some advanced macro preprocessing using Velocity. I find that Velocity's macro language should be more powerful than what it is. I miss the capabilities of a full featured language. I wish that velocity macro language should be comparable with Perl or Jython or BeanShell.
> >> I strongly suggest that Velocity be reengineered to support a complete macro processing language like Perl or Jython or BeanShell (Jython or BeanShell are already 100% Java). The old macro processing language would disappear, insteand we would enter a scripting language like Jython or BeanShell.
> >> This is necessary in order that Velocity be used as a full-featured macro preprocessing utility.
>
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Re: [jira] Resolved: (VELOCITY-445) Integrate Jython or BeanShell or
Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
"Nathan Bubna (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> writes:
Actually,
while I agree with "won't fix" here, it would be an interesting thing
to 'carve' out the Velocity Language from the Velocity environment for
loading pages, rendering stuff, returning output etc. and make the
actual page language 'pluggable'.
This is 2.0 stuff, though.
Best regards
Henning
> [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445?page=all ]
>
>Nathan Bubna resolved VELOCITY-445:
>-----------------------------------
> Resolution: Won't Fix
>Hi Colbert,
>If you wish to have a full featured language, there are plenty of those available out there. Velocity's aim is to be the "V" in MVC. As such, it has from the beginning been an explicit goal of the Velocity developers to avoid letting VTL become a scripting language. Integration with a scripting language is a blatant step over that line, IMO. You and others are, of course, free to work on this and share it, but it is extremely unlikely that we would accept a patch for this into the core library.
>peace,
>nate
>> Integrate Jython or BeanShell or Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Key: VELOCITY-445
>> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445
>> Project: Velocity
>> Type: Improvement
>> Components: Source
>> Versions: 1.4
>> Environment: WindowsXP
>> Reporter: Colbert Philippe
>>
>> I do some advanced macro preprocessing using Velocity. I find that Velocity's macro language should be more powerful than what it is. I miss the capabilities of a full featured language. I wish that velocity macro language should be comparable with Perl or Jython or BeanShell.
>> I strongly suggest that Velocity be reengineered to support a complete macro processing language like Perl or Jython or BeanShell (Jython or BeanShell are already 100% Java). The old macro processing language would disappear, insteand we would enter a scripting language like Jython or BeanShell.
>> This is necessary in order that Velocity be used as a full-featured macro preprocessing utility.
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[jira] Resolved: (VELOCITY-445) Integrate Jython or BeanShell or
Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
Posted by "Nathan Bubna (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445?page=all ]
Nathan Bubna resolved VELOCITY-445:
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Resolution: Won't Fix
Hi Colbert,
If you wish to have a full featured language, there are plenty of those available out there. Velocity's aim is to be the "V" in MVC. As such, it has from the beginning been an explicit goal of the Velocity developers to avoid letting VTL become a scripting language. Integration with a scripting language is a blatant step over that line, IMO. You and others are, of course, free to work on this and share it, but it is extremely unlikely that we would accept a patch for this into the core library.
peace,
nate
> Integrate Jython or BeanShell or Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: VELOCITY-445
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445
> Project: Velocity
> Type: Improvement
> Components: Source
> Versions: 1.4
> Environment: WindowsXP
> Reporter: Colbert Philippe
>
> I do some advanced macro preprocessing using Velocity. I find that Velocity's macro language should be more powerful than what it is. I miss the capabilities of a full featured language. I wish that velocity macro language should be comparable with Perl or Jython or BeanShell.
> I strongly suggest that Velocity be reengineered to support a complete macro processing language like Perl or Jython or BeanShell (Jython or BeanShell are already 100% Java). The old macro processing language would disappear, insteand we would enter a scripting language like Jython or BeanShell.
> This is necessary in order that Velocity be used as a full-featured macro preprocessing utility.
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[jira] Commented: (VELOCITY-445) Integrate Jython or BeanShell or
Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
Posted by "Will Glass-Husain (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445?page=comments#action_12416397 ]
Will Glass-Husain commented on VELOCITY-445:
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Another possibility is to mix Velocity and JSP with the "Veltag" module of Velocity. This allows JSP pages -- which can be scripted as you desire -- to include Velocity fragments.
> Integrate Jython or BeanShell or Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: VELOCITY-445
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445
> Project: Velocity
> Type: Improvement
> Components: Source
> Versions: 1.4
> Environment: WindowsXP
> Reporter: Colbert Philippe
>
> I do some advanced macro preprocessing using Velocity. I find that Velocity's macro language should be more powerful than what it is. I miss the capabilities of a full featured language. I wish that velocity macro language should be comparable with Perl or Jython or BeanShell.
> I strongly suggest that Velocity be reengineered to support a complete macro processing language like Perl or Jython or BeanShell (Jython or BeanShell are already 100% Java). The old macro processing language would disappear, insteand we would enter a scripting language like Jython or BeanShell.
> This is necessary in order that Velocity be used as a full-featured macro preprocessing utility.
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[jira] Closed: (VELOCITY-445) Integrate Jython or BeanShell or Perl
with Velocity to have complete macro language!
Posted by "Henning Schmiedehausen (JIRA)" <de...@velocity.apache.org>.
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Henning Schmiedehausen closed VELOCITY-445.
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> Integrate Jython or BeanShell or Perl with Velocity to have complete macro language!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: VELOCITY-445
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-445
> Project: Velocity
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Engine
> Affects Versions: 1.4
> Environment: WindowsXP
> Reporter: Colbert Philippe
>
> I do some advanced macro preprocessing using Velocity. I find that Velocity's macro language should be more powerful than what it is. I miss the capabilities of a full featured language. I wish that velocity macro language should be comparable with Perl or Jython or BeanShell.
> I strongly suggest that Velocity be reengineered to support a complete macro processing language like Perl or Jython or BeanShell (Jython or BeanShell are already 100% Java). The old macro processing language would disappear, insteand we would enter a scripting language like Jython or BeanShell.
> This is necessary in order that Velocity be used as a full-featured macro preprocessing utility.
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