Anyone look into XStandard as a WYSIWYG editor?

["Linczak, Jonathan W." <Li...@hiram.edu>]

I don't know if this has ever been mentioned by the devs before, but I'm curious if anyone has ever looked into this editor before?

http://www.xstandard.com/

The thing that makes this different from the others is that it is an application that a user would need to download on their machine and not a web-based (JavaScript) editor, so if that's against the core belief of Lenya's way of editing, that's understandable.  What I do like about it, however, is it's devotion to web standards and writing very clean code.  It doesn't use the built-in editing tools available in a browser, so it only writes code in one way.  And it seems to integrate into a CMS fairly well, although admittedly I'm no expert in how to do that with Lenya.

I just think I like where that project is heading, and with the Lite version being free, it seems like something interesting to try.  Again, I'm not a dev, but I thought I would throw the idea your way to see what you think.

Jon

Re: Anyone look into XStandard as a WYSIWYG editor?

[Torsten Schlabach <ts...@apache.org>]

>> Beside the costs, people/customers who plan to use Lenya, will need to
>> spent some money on professional services anyway. So what about some
>> hundred Euros/Dollars for an Editor compared to the costs of a man-week?

Be careful. This might be way different in academic settings where labor
is often at least considered free but buying a license requires a budget
and maybe a bureaucratic process. Also the cost for an editor has to be
multiplied with the anticipated number of users which can be quite high in
some installations.

But if anyone wants to use a commercial editor, it's the user's choice. I
think we have agreed that we want to create an open and flexible mechanism
to plugging in editors. This will most likely not be restricted to a
certain type of license.

> I never saw a JS based inline editor,
> which really rocked. Not bxe, not kupu and not XHTMLArea. So, I'm

Me neither. And I sommetimes wonder why.

Regards,
Torsten


> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 04:02, Linczak, Jonathan W. wrote:
>> I don't know if this has ever been mentioned by the devs before, but
>> I'm curious if anyone has ever looked into this editor before?
>>
>> http://www.xstandard.com/
>>
>> The thing that makes this different from the others is that it is an
>> application that a user would need to download on their machine and
>> not a web-based (JavaScript) editor, so if that's against the core
>> belief of Lenya's way of editing, that's understandable.
>
> XStandard also runs in-browser. But supports Windoof only.
>
> However, it sounds promising. I never saw a JS based inline editor,
> which really rocked. Not bxe, not kupu and not XHTMLArea. So, I'm
> personally searching for an alternative and will have a look at
> XStandard. Thanks for the hint.
>
> Ok, BXE can be nice, after you configured it properly. Also BXE claims
> to be WSYWYG XML editor, which it of course is. XStandard seems to be an
> awesome XHTML editor with lots of cool features going far beyond what is
> possible with other JS based/limited inline editors.
>
>> What I do like about it, however, is it's devotion to web standards
>> and writing very clean code.  It doesn't use the built-in editing
>> tools available in a browser, so it only writes code in one way.  And
>> it seems to integrate into a CMS fairly well, although admittedly I'm
>> no expert in how to do that with Lenya.
>>
>> I just think I like where that project is heading, and with the Lite
>> version being free, it seems like something interesting to try.
>> Again, I'm not a dev, but I thought I would throw the idea your way to
>> see what you think.
>
> Beside the costs, people/customers who plan to use Lenya, will need to
> spent some money on professional services anyway. So what about some
> hundred Euros/Dollars for an Editor compared to the costs of a man-week?
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> --
> Rolf Kulemann
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lenya.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lenya.apache.org
>
>


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lenya.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lenya.apache.org

Re: Anyone look into XStandard as a WYSIWYG editor?

[Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>]

On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 04:02, Linczak, Jonathan W. wrote: 
> I don't know if this has ever been mentioned by the devs before, but
> I'm curious if anyone has ever looked into this editor before?
> 
> http://www.xstandard.com/
> 
> The thing that makes this different from the others is that it is an
> application that a user would need to download on their machine and
> not a web-based (JavaScript) editor, so if that's against the core
> belief of Lenya's way of editing, that's understandable. 

XStandard also runs in-browser. But supports Windoof only.

However, it sounds promising. I never saw a JS based inline editor,
which really rocked. Not bxe, not kupu and not XHTMLArea. So, I'm
personally searching for an alternative and will have a look at
XStandard. Thanks for the hint.

Ok, BXE can be nice, after you configured it properly. Also BXE claims
to be WSYWYG XML editor, which it of course is. XStandard seems to be an
awesome XHTML editor with lots of cool features going far beyond what is
possible with other JS based/limited inline editors.

> What I do like about it, however, is it's devotion to web standards
> and writing very clean code.  It doesn't use the built-in editing
> tools available in a browser, so it only writes code in one way.  And
> it seems to integrate into a CMS fairly well, although admittedly I'm
> no expert in how to do that with Lenya.
> 
> I just think I like where that project is heading, and with the Lite
> version being free, it seems like something interesting to try. 
> Again, I'm not a dev, but I thought I would throw the idea your way to
> see what you think.

Beside the costs, people/customers who plan to use Lenya, will need to
spent some money on professional services anyway. So what about some
hundred Euros/Dollars for an Editor compared to the costs of a man-week?

My 2 cents.

-- 
Rolf Kulemann


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lenya.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lenya.apache.org