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Posted to jdo-dev@db.apache.org by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com> on 2011/11/04 19:35:31 UTC

Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time

Reminder: Next week's meeting will be in Standard Time not Daylight  
Savings Time.

Attendees: Tim Gallagher, Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, Matthew  
Adams, Craig Russell

  Agenda:

  1.  JDO 3.0.1 release is available for testing!

Everyone please at least download this release.

  2.  New feature idea http://osdir.com/ml/jdo-dev-db-apache/2011-11/msg00002.html

Seems like a reasonable idea. We might add a method to JDOHelper  
similar to makeDirty. Other interfaces may need to be enhanced as  
well. AI Tim write up more detailed proposal.

  3.  Other issues

JDO-699 looks good. Speak now or this will be done.

  Action Items from weeks past:

  [April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617 
  re the utility of the update operator.
  [Sep 23 2011] AI Michael prepare spec update for JDOQL changes  
(JDO-658) and document restrictions on Enum.ordinal and Enum.toString.  
Create new JIRA for Math methods in JDOQL.

Done!

  [Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to  
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before  
running tck.

Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 10, 9 am Pacific Time

Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Attendees: Michael Bouschen, Matthew Adams, Craig Russell

Agenda:

1.  JDO 3.0.1 release is available for testing!

The release was voted and is now pending turning the crank. AI Matthew  
ship it.

Matthew will need to update the KEYS file for the db project. AI Craig  
send link for how to do it.

2.  New feature idea http://osdir.com/ml/jdo-dev-db-apache/2011-11/msg00002.html

More detail is still needed on the proposal.

3. Other issues

What about setting up Facebook page, Google+ account, Twitter?

Matthew volunteered to set up some social networking for JDO.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-696 Throw an exception if an  
unrecognized property with "javax.jdo" prefix. Should the test be case  
sensitive? Probably not.

Action Items from weeks past:

[April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617 
  re the utility of the update operator.

[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to  
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before  
running tck.

Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time

Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Hi Tim,

On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:50 AM, tgallagher@mmm.com wrote:

> Craig,
>
> Thanks for the minutes write up.
>
> I've been going through the JDO API in more detail and in order to
> implement the QBE and get the changed information for a JavaBean, it
> appears to require that an object not be in the Transient state.   
> However,
> the objects I see being created for the QBE will always be in the
> Transient state.  To make this work in the Transient state, this would
> required that there be a StateManager associated with the JavaBean.

That is the purpose of makeTransactional. This API associates a  
StateManager with the transient object.

Then we need to see what other APIs will help you to use the  
information that is known by the StateManager.

Hope this helps,

Craig

> So,
> I'm looking at the implication of associating a StateManager with a
> JavaBean while in the Transient state and the effect it might have  
> if a
> developer than happens to try and make the JavaBean persistent.   
> This will
> take a little longer than I had hoped.
>
> Tim Gallagher
>

Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time

Posted by tg...@mmm.com.
Craig,

Thanks for the minutes write up.

I've been going through the JDO API in more detail and in order to 
implement the QBE and get the changed information for a JavaBean, it 
appears to require that an object not be in the Transient state.  However, 
the objects I see being created for the QBE will always be in the 
Transient state.  To make this work in the Transient state, this would 
required that there be a StateManager associated with the JavaBean.  So, 
I'm looking at the implication of associating a StateManager with a 
JavaBean while in the Transient state and the effect it might have if a 
developer than happens to try and make the JavaBean persistent.  This will 
take a little longer than I had hoped.

Tim Gallagher

Clinical & Economic Research
3M Health Information Systems
5000 Buttercup Drive
Castle Rock, CO 80109

Phone: (303) 814-3867




From:
Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>
To:
jdo-dev@db.apache.org
Cc:
jdo-experts-ext@sun.com
Date:
11/04/2011 12:36 PM
Subject:
Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time



Reminder: Next week's meeting will be in Standard Time not Daylight 
Savings Time.

Attendees: Tim Gallagher, Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, Matthew 
Adams, Craig Russell

  Agenda:

  1.  JDO 3.0.1 release is available for testing!

Everyone please at least download this release.

  2.  New feature idea 
http://osdir.com/ml/jdo-dev-db-apache/2011-11/msg00002.html

Seems like a reasonable idea. We might add a method to JDOHelper 
similar to makeDirty. Other interfaces may need to be enhanced as 
well. AI Tim write up more detailed proposal.

  3.  Other issues

JDO-699 looks good. Speak now or this will be done.

  Action Items from weeks past:

  [April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617 
  re the utility of the update operator.
  [Sep 23 2011] AI Michael prepare spec update for JDOQL changes 
(JDO-658) and document restrictions on Enum.ordinal and Enum.toString. 
Create new JIRA for Math methods in JDOQL.

Done!

  [Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to 
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before 
running tck.

Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!