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[Bug 65444] New: Jakarta EE?

https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65444

            Bug ID: 65444
           Summary: Jakarta EE?
           Product: Tomcat 10
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Mac OS X 10.1
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: Servlet
          Assignee: dev@tomcat.apache.org
          Reporter: croteau.mike@gmail.com
  Target Milestone: ------

I have been using Tomcat for the last 14 years, why would you move away from
the EE standard. I developed a web framework that uses the standard Java EE
spec. I loved you guys. Now I can't use you. Im sorry to be writing this on
your bug reporting system but I'm heart broken and distraught. Forgive me.

Mike

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[Bug 65444] Jakarta EE?

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65444

Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

--- Comment #1 from Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com> ---
Java EE is dead legacy. Praise (or blame) Oracle, Inc.

See
https://eclipse-foundation.blog/2019/05/03/jakarta-ee-java-trademarks/
2019-05-03, "Update on Jakarta EE Rights to Java Trademarks" by Mike
Milinkovich

> Summary of progress to date and implications of the agreement
> between Eclipse and Oracle on Jakarta EE and use of Java trademarks
> and the javax namespace.


The history of how decisions were made:
- discussions on the Tomcat dev mailing list:

https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/cnwbgkron4blb622
2019-05-07, "Jakarta package change"

https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/zslep6lq2z55fgb2
2019-11-27, "Tomcat next and Jakarta EE"

https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/no74fg2vkhjd6p7c
2019-12-16, "Proposed plan for Tomcat 10"

https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/ei2d6277hcppuour
2019-12-20, "javax -> jakarta rename"

https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/fzty4ymric7waw2s
2020-02-10, "Numbering schemes for future releases"


See also conference presentations, esp. "State of the Cat", here:
https://tomcat.apache.org/presentations.html

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[Bug 65444] Jakarta EE?

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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--- Comment #3 from Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> ---
And nobody mentioned:

1. Bugzilla is not a support forum. Bring this discussion to the users@ list.

2. (And this is a big one) TOMCAT PROVIDES AN AUTOMATED CONVERSION TOOL FROM
YOUR OLD RUSTY JAVA EE APPLICATION TO JAKARTA EE, and we have been
contemplating making it so that you can even deploy-and-auto-convert your old,
rusty Java EE application on the newer platform.

You're welcome.

So you can take your ball and go home (or elsewhere), but everyone else will be
doing this as well: JBoss, Jetty, etc. will all continue to support the
"current" standard which is Jakarta EE.

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[Bug 65444] Jakarta EE?

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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--- Comment #2 from Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> ---
And I'll add that the Tomcat community intends to support Tomcat 9 (that
supports Java EE) for as long as there are users that want to use it.

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