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Posted to dev@rocketmq.apache.org by Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com> on 2022/09/26 07:57:50 UTC
回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions below:
(1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus, will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
(2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
________________________________
发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Hi, RocketMQ Community：
We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
SSpirits
Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
Re: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by Zhanhui Li <li...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
> this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus, will you work
focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
No. As the goal section of RIP-46 states, it is a redesign, aiming to
provide systematic observability in metric dimensions.
> And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod in
the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA;
Not quite understand your concern here. Could you please elaborate it
further?
> And we can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
Best to have the discussion in the mailing list following Apache Way. *Apache
projects use mailing lists to coordinate development of their software and
administer their organization. Mailing lists also serve as a primary
support channel where users can help each other learn to use the
software. *https://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
Not everyone has the schedule to attend online meetings. It's OK to have
online meetings, be private or public. But they should not be considered
formal and necessary.
Zhanhui Li
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 3:58 PM Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions
> below:
>
> (1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus,
> will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
> (2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod
> in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we
> can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
>
> ________________________________
> 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> Hi, RocketMQ Community：
>
> We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we
> hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
>
> We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
> https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
>
> Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
>
> SSpirits
> Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
>
Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by heng du <du...@apache.org>.
+1 for vote
Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com> 于2022年9月27日周二 11:40写道：
> Okay, I see it!
> I don't have other question!
> ________________________________
> 发件人: Xinyu Zhou <yu...@apache.org>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月27日 10:52
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> Hello Zongtang,
>
> About you mentioned two questions, this RIP will cover the first one. For
> the second one, it seems to be an issue about deployment, we can create a
> new thread to discuss it.
>
> And, let's keep the discussion on the mailing list AFAP. Of course,
> the online meeting is an effective complement. But, remember that any
> conclusion must be reached on the mailing list.
>
> Regards
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 7:11 PM Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe, we can discuss the qustion two which I metioned above in next
> > online meeting of apache rocketmq commnity and draft another RIP for this
> > feature! @sspirits @lizhanhui@duheng;
> > ________________________________
> > 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@sspirits.top>
> > 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 16:16
> > 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> > 主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
> >
> > This RIP is aimed to implement out-of-box metrics for broker and proxy.
> > The metrics specification will adhere to OpenTelemetry standards and is
> > compatible with legacy solutions such as rocketmq-exporter and
> Prometheus.
> > And we should discuss the specification and other details in this mail
> list
> > or GitHub issues.
> >
> > Your response would be highly appreciated.
> > SSpirits
> > Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
> > 在 2022年9月26日 +0800 15:58，Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>，写道：
> > I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions
> > below:
> >
> > (1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus,
> > will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
> > (2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod
> > in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we
> > can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
> >
> > ________________________________
> > 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
> > 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
> > 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> > 主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
> >
> > Hi, RocketMQ Community：
> >
> > We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we
> > hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
> >
> > We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
> > https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
> >
> > Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
> >
> > SSpirits
> > Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
> >
>
回复: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>.
Okay, I see it!
I don't have other question!
________________________________
发件人: Xinyu Zhou <yu...@apache.org>
发送时间: 2022年9月27日 10:52
收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Hello Zongtang,
About you mentioned two questions, this RIP will cover the first one. For
the second one, it seems to be an issue about deployment, we can create a
new thread to discuss it.
And, let's keep the discussion on the mailing list AFAP. Of course,
the online meeting is an effective complement. But, remember that any
conclusion must be reached on the mailing list.
Regards
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 7:11 PM Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe, we can discuss the qustion two which I metioned above in next
> online meeting of apache rocketmq commnity and draft another RIP for this
> feature! @sspirits @lizhanhui@duheng;
> ________________________________
> 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@sspirits.top>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 16:16
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> This RIP is aimed to implement out-of-box metrics for broker and proxy.
> The metrics specification will adhere to OpenTelemetry standards and is
> compatible with legacy solutions such as rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus.
> And we should discuss the specification and other details in this mail list
> or GitHub issues.
>
> Your response would be highly appreciated.
> SSpirits
> Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
> 在 2022年9月26日 +0800 15:58，Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>，写道：
> I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions
> below:
>
> (1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus,
> will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
> (2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod
> in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we
> can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
>
> ________________________________
> 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> Hi, RocketMQ Community：
>
> We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we
> hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
>
> We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
> https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
>
> Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
>
> SSpirits
> Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
>
Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by Xinyu Zhou <yu...@apache.org>.
Hello Zongtang,
About you mentioned two questions, this RIP will cover the first one. For
the second one, it seems to be an issue about deployment, we can create a
new thread to discuss it.
And, let's keep the discussion on the mailing list AFAP. Of course,
the online meeting is an effective complement. But, remember that any
conclusion must be reached on the mailing list.
Regards
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 7:11 PM Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe, we can discuss the qustion two which I metioned above in next
> online meeting of apache rocketmq commnity and draft another RIP for this
> feature! @sspirits @lizhanhui@duheng;
> ________________________________
> 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@sspirits.top>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 16:16
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> This RIP is aimed to implement out-of-box metrics for broker and proxy.
> The metrics specification will adhere to OpenTelemetry standards and is
> compatible with legacy solutions such as rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus.
> And we should discuss the specification and other details in this mail list
> or GitHub issues.
>
> Your response would be highly appreciated.
> SSpirits
> Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
> 在 2022年9月26日 +0800 15:58，Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>，写道：
> I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions
> below:
>
> (1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus,
> will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
> (2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod
> in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we
> can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
>
> ________________________________
> 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> Hi, RocketMQ Community：
>
> We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we
> hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
>
> We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
> https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
>
> Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
>
> SSpirits
> Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
>
Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by Zhouxiang Zhan <zh...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:43 AM Xinyu Zhou <yu...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 for moving to vote
>
> Improve the observability, and make rocketmq more cloud-native.
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 7:11 PM Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe, we can discuss the qustion two which I metioned above in next
> > online meeting of apache rocketmq commnity and draft another RIP for this
> > feature! @sspirits @lizhanhui@duheng;
> > ________________________________
> > 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@sspirits.top>
> > 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 16:16
> > 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> > 主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
> >
> > This RIP is aimed to implement out-of-box metrics for broker and proxy.
> > The metrics specification will adhere to OpenTelemetry standards and is
> > compatible with legacy solutions such as rocketmq-exporter and
> Prometheus.
> > And we should discuss the specification and other details in this mail
> list
> > or GitHub issues.
> >
> > Your response would be highly appreciated.
> > SSpirits
> > Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
> > 在 2022年9月26日 +0800 15:58，Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>，写道：
> > I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions
> > below:
> >
> > (1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus,
> > will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
> > (2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod
> > in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we
> > can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
> >
> > ________________________________
> > 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
> > 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
> > 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> > 主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
> >
> > Hi, RocketMQ Community：
> >
> > We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we
> > hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
> >
> > We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
> > https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
> >
> > Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
> >
> > SSpirits
> > Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
> >
>
Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by Xinyu Zhou <yu...@apache.org>.
+1 for moving to vote
Improve the observability, and make rocketmq more cloud-native.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 7:11 PM Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe, we can discuss the qustion two which I metioned above in next
> online meeting of apache rocketmq commnity and draft another RIP for this
> feature! @sspirits @lizhanhui@duheng;
> ________________________________
> 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@sspirits.top>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 16:16
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> This RIP is aimed to implement out-of-box metrics for broker and proxy.
> The metrics specification will adhere to OpenTelemetry standards and is
> compatible with legacy solutions such as rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus.
> And we should discuss the specification and other details in this mail list
> or GitHub issues.
>
> Your response would be highly appreciated.
> SSpirits
> Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
> 在 2022年9月26日 +0800 15:58，Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>，写道：
> I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions
> below:
>
> (1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus,
> will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
> (2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod
> in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we
> can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
>
> ________________________________
> 发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
> 发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
> 收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
> 主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
>
> Hi, RocketMQ Community：
>
> We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we
> hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
>
> We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
> https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
>
> Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
>
> SSpirits
> Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
>
回复: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>.
Maybe, we can discuss the qustion two which I metioned above in next online meeting of apache rocketmq commnity and draft another RIP for this feature! @sspirits @lizhanhui@duheng;
________________________________
发件人: SSpirits <ad...@sspirits.top>
发送时间: 2022年9月26日 16:16
收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
主题: Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
This RIP is aimed to implement out-of-box metrics for broker and proxy. The metrics specification will adhere to OpenTelemetry standards and is compatible with legacy solutions such as rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus. And we should discuss the specification and other details in this mail list or GitHub issues.
Your response would be highly appreciated.
SSpirits
Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
在 2022年9月26日 +0800 15:58，Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>，写道：
I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions below:
(1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus, will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
(2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
________________________________
发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Hi, RocketMQ Community：
We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
SSpirits
Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
Re: 回复: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Posted by SSpirits <ad...@sspirits.top>.
This RIP is aimed to implement out-of-box metrics for broker and proxy. The metrics specification will adhere to OpenTelemetry standards and is compatible with legacy solutions such as rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus. And we should discuss the specification and other details in this mail list or GitHub issues.
Your response would be highly appreciated.
SSpirits
Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>
在 2022年9月26日 +0800 15:58，Hu Zongtang <zo...@hotmail.com>，写道：
I look your desgin document of RIP-46 and have some serveral questions below:
(1)Actually, this RIP is based on the rocketmq-exporter and Prometheus, will you work focus on the metrics collector and specification of metric?
(2)And I suggest you can implment the elasticity of broker and proxy pod in the k8s cluster base on the some other component, such as HPA; And we can disscuss about this part in online meeting of Apache rocketmq!
________________________________
发件人: SSpirits <ad...@lv5.moe>
发送时间: 2022年9月26日 13:38
收件人: dev@rocketmq.apache.org <de...@rocketmq.apache.org>
主题: [DISCUSS][RIP-46] Observability improvement for RocketMQ
Hi, RocketMQ Community：
We have a plan to improve the observability of RocketMQ. Specifically, we hope to introduce native metrics for RocketMQ.
We have written the proposal, and you can see it by the link below:
https://shimo.im/docs/m4kML2VzdESO9eqD
Please reply to this email if you have any suggestions.
SSpirits
Email：admin@lv5.moe<ma...@lv5.moe>