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Posted to dev@accumulo.apache.org by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> on 2014/11/17 02:21:55 UTC
Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
anymore.
If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
- Josh
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>.
+cc user@
I don't believe a vote is necessary unless anyone actually has an
objection. Let's have a discussion and if there are any concerns by devs
at the end, we can call a vote.
Anyone should feel free to state their opinion on the subject.
Sean Busbey wrote:
> I'd be +1 to drop Hadoop 1 from 1.7.
>
> IIRC, we had loose consensus to drop it for 2.0. I don't know how much of
> that support was because 2.0 is a "very major" version change.
>
> It's worth keeping in mind that jdk6 support is also dropped as of the 1.7
> release, which means for some people making the jump from 1.6 will now
> requite 2 major underlying component changes.
>
> We probably should have a vote (and copy user@) just to make sure it gets
> enough visibility.
>
>> Josh Elser wrote:
>> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
>> anymore.
>>
>> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
>>
>> - Josh
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>.
+cc user@
I don't believe a vote is necessary unless anyone actually has an
objection. Let's have a discussion and if there are any concerns by devs
at the end, we can call a vote.
Anyone should feel free to state their opinion on the subject.
Sean Busbey wrote:
> I'd be +1 to drop Hadoop 1 from 1.7.
>
> IIRC, we had loose consensus to drop it for 2.0. I don't know how much of
> that support was because 2.0 is a "very major" version change.
>
> It's worth keeping in mind that jdk6 support is also dropped as of the 1.7
> release, which means for some people making the jump from 1.6 will now
> requite 2 major underlying component changes.
>
> We probably should have a vote (and copy user@) just to make sure it gets
> enough visibility.
>
>> Josh Elser wrote:
>> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
>> anymore.
>>
>> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
>>
>> - Josh
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>.
I'd be +1 to drop Hadoop 1 from 1.7.
IIRC, we had loose consensus to drop it for 2.0. I don't know how much of
that support was because 2.0 is a "very major" version change.
It's worth keeping in mind that jdk6 support is also dropped as of the 1.7
release, which means for some people making the jump from 1.6 will now
requite 2 major underlying component changes.
We probably should have a vote (and copy user@) just to make sure it gets
enough visibility.
--
Sean
Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
anymore.
If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
- Josh
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Christopher <ct...@apache.org>.
Okay.
--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ya -- I've been holding this in my back pocket.
>
> I'll open up an issue on JIRA later today if we don't already have one.
>
> Sean Busbey wrote:
>
>> I think a little over a week is a fair window and AFAICT we have lazy
>> consensus to drop it.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Did we make a decision on this?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't
>> remember
>> >> anymore.
>> >>
>> >> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest
>> doing so.
>> >>
>> >> - Josh
>> >>
>> >
>> > I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we
>> thought we
>> > might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in
>> 1.7, but
>> > with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last
>> supported
>> > Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if
>> we want
>> > to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x
>> branch
>> > longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
>> >
>> > So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue
>> maintaining
>> > 1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or
>> leave those
>> > users in the dust (if there are any).
>> >
>> > --
>> > Christopher L Tubbs II
>> > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean
>>
>
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Christopher <ct...@apache.org>.
Okay.
--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ya -- I've been holding this in my back pocket.
>
> I'll open up an issue on JIRA later today if we don't already have one.
>
> Sean Busbey wrote:
>
>> I think a little over a week is a fair window and AFAICT we have lazy
>> consensus to drop it.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Did we make a decision on this?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't
>> remember
>> >> anymore.
>> >>
>> >> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest
>> doing so.
>> >>
>> >> - Josh
>> >>
>> >
>> > I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we
>> thought we
>> > might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in
>> 1.7, but
>> > with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last
>> supported
>> > Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if
>> we want
>> > to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x
>> branch
>> > longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
>> >
>> > So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue
>> maintaining
>> > 1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or
>> leave those
>> > users in the dust (if there are any).
>> >
>> > --
>> > Christopher L Tubbs II
>> > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean
>>
>
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>.
Ya -- I've been holding this in my back pocket.
I'll open up an issue on JIRA later today if we don't already have one.
Sean Busbey wrote:
> I think a little over a week is a fair window and AFAICT we have lazy
> consensus to drop it.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> Did we make a decision on this?
>
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
> >> anymore.
> >>
> >> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest
> doing so.
> >>
> >> - Josh
> >>
> >
> > I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we
> thought we
> > might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in
> 1.7, but
> > with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last
> supported
> > Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if
> we want
> > to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x branch
> > longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
> >
> > So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue
> maintaining
> > 1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or
> leave those
> > users in the dust (if there are any).
> >
> > --
> > Christopher L Tubbs II
> > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>.
Ya -- I've been holding this in my back pocket.
I'll open up an issue on JIRA later today if we don't already have one.
Sean Busbey wrote:
> I think a little over a week is a fair window and AFAICT we have lazy
> consensus to drop it.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> Did we make a decision on this?
>
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
> >> anymore.
> >>
> >> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest
> doing so.
> >>
> >> - Josh
> >>
> >
> > I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we
> thought we
> > might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in
> 1.7, but
> > with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last
> supported
> > Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if
> we want
> > to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x branch
> > longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
> >
> > So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue
> maintaining
> > 1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or
> leave those
> > users in the dust (if there are any).
> >
> > --
> > Christopher L Tubbs II
> > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>.
I think a little over a week is a fair window and AFAICT we have lazy
consensus to drop it.
-Sean
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
> Did we make a decision on this?
>
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
> >> anymore.
> >>
> >> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
> >>
> >> - Josh
> >>
> >
> > I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we thought
> we
> > might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in 1.7, but
> > with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last
> supported
> > Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if we want
> > to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x branch
> > longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
> >
> > So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue maintaining
> > 1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or leave those
> > users in the dust (if there are any).
> >
> > --
> > Christopher L Tubbs II
> > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >
> >
>
--
Sean
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>.
I think a little over a week is a fair window and AFAICT we have lazy
consensus to drop it.
-Sean
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
> Did we make a decision on this?
>
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
> >> anymore.
> >>
> >> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
> >>
> >> - Josh
> >>
> >
> > I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we thought
> we
> > might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in 1.7, but
> > with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last
> supported
> > Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if we want
> > to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x branch
> > longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
> >
> > So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue maintaining
> > 1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or leave those
> > users in the dust (if there are any).
> >
> > --
> > Christopher L Tubbs II
> > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> >
> >
>
--
Sean
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Christopher <ct...@apache.org>.
Did we make a decision on this?
--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
>> anymore.
>>
>> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
>>
>> - Josh
>>
>
> I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we thought we
> might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in 1.7, but
> with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last supported
> Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if we want
> to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x branch
> longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
>
> So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue maintaining
> 1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or leave those
> users in the dust (if there are any).
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
>
Re: Dropping Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0
Posted by Christopher <ct...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have we already decided to drop Hadoop 1 for 1.7.0? I can't remember
> anymore.
>
> If we haven't decided to do so already, I'd like to suggest doing so.
>
> - Josh
>
I thought we had discussed this for 2.0.0, but that was when we thought we
might release a 2.0 instead of a 1.7. I'm okay with doing it in 1.7, but
with some minor reservations. Doing this will mean that the last supported
Accumulo line for Hadoop 1 users is 1.6.x. This will mean that if we want
to support users on Hadoop 1, we'll have to maintain the 1.6.x branch
longer, vs. maintaining support with 1.x (1.7, maybe 1.8, etc.)
So, doing this will involve a choice in the future: continue maintaining
1.6 for perhaps longer than we might have otherwise done, or leave those
users in the dust (if there are any).
--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii