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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> on 2014/03/28 16:48:26 UTC

can cloudstack kvm run inside a virtualbox guest?

The cloudstack installation instructions for kvm [1] state the following:

> Must support HVM (Intel-VT or AMD-V enabled)

Virtualbox guests don't have HVM.

Will Cloudstack installation work and be slow (falling back to qemu in
the case of Ubuntu), or  will Cloudstack never work for KVM without
HVM?

Many thanks,

Chris


[1] http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/latest/hypervisor_installation.html#kvm-hypervisor-host-installation

RE: can cloudstack kvm run inside a virtualbox guest?

Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
Chris,

Run this SQL command

INSERT INTO cloud.configuration (category, instance, component, name, value, description) VALUES ('Advanced', 'DEFAULT', 'management-server', 'xen.check.hvm', 'false', 'Shoud we allow only the XenServers support HVM');

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Geoff Higginbottom

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-----Original Message-----
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 March 2014 18:00
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: can cloudstack kvm run inside a virtualbox guest?

Hi Tuna, what/where is the check that can be bypassed?
On 28 Mar 2014 17:58, "Nguyen Anh Tu" <tu...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you have any idea how much effort would be required for
> > cloudstack to support KVM without HVM (similar to the approach taken
> > by openstack [1])?
> >
>
> I don't know whether we can run instances on KVM host without HVM. But
> it's very easy to bypass HVM checking in CloudStack. Honestly I think
> they wanna keep that check. You can modify to use by yourself, no
> problem :-)
>
> Cheers,
> --Tuna
>
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Re: can cloudstack kvm run inside a virtualbox guest?

Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tuna, what/where is the check that can be bypassed?
On 28 Mar 2014 17:58, "Nguyen Anh Tu" <tu...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you have any idea how much effort would be required for cloudstack
> > to support KVM without HVM (similar to the approach taken by openstack
> > [1])?
> >
>
> I don't know whether we can run instances on KVM host without HVM. But it's
> very easy to bypass HVM checking in CloudStack. Honestly I think they wanna
> keep that check. You can modify to use by yourself, no problem :-)
>
> Cheers,
> --Tuna
>

Re: can cloudstack kvm run inside a virtualbox guest?

Posted by Nguyen Anh Tu <tu...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you have any idea how much effort would be required for cloudstack
> to support KVM without HVM (similar to the approach taken by openstack
> [1])?
>

I don't know whether we can run instances on KVM host without HVM. But it's
very easy to bypass HVM checking in CloudStack. Honestly I think they wanna
keep that check. You can modify to use by yourself, no problem :-)

Cheers,
--Tuna

Re: can cloudstack kvm run inside a virtualbox guest?

Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the response Tuna.

Do you have any idea how much effort would be required for cloudstack
to support KVM without HVM (similar to the approach taken by openstack
[1])?

---
[1] https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/3516/can-we-run-complete-openstack-setup-on-kvm-virtual-machine/

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Nguyen Anh Tu <tu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> AFAIK, CloudStack only works for KVM host with HVM supported.
>
> --Tuna
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The cloudstack installation instructions for kvm [1] state the following:
>>
>> > Must support HVM (Intel-VT or AMD-V enabled)
>>
>> Virtualbox guests don't have HVM.
>>
>> Will Cloudstack installation work and be slow (falling back to qemu in
>> the case of Ubuntu), or  will Cloudstack never work for KVM without
>> HVM?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/latest/hypervisor_installation.html#kvm-hypervisor-host-installation
>>



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Re: can cloudstack kvm run inside a virtualbox guest?

Posted by Nguyen Anh Tu <tu...@apache.org>.
Chris,

AFAIK, CloudStack only works for KVM host with HVM supported.

--Tuna


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The cloudstack installation instructions for kvm [1] state the following:
>
> > Must support HVM (Intel-VT or AMD-V enabled)
>
> Virtualbox guests don't have HVM.
>
> Will Cloudstack installation work and be slow (falling back to qemu in
> the case of Ubuntu), or  will Cloudstack never work for KVM without
> HVM?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>
>
> [1]
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/latest/hypervisor_installation.html#kvm-hypervisor-host-installation
>