Re: Brian Barker re Is there a limit to page number correction values in OO?

[PCS <pe...@bigpond.com>]

Dear Brian,

You have initiated broader discussion, so I shall respond.

Your "Are you perhaps for some reason prejudiced against OpenOffice?” sounds like an equivalent of my father’s “If you can’t afford a Dodge, dodge a Ford” when he owned a 1928 Dodge (our first family car) and his “If you can’t afford a Ford, dodge a Dodge” when he subsequently owned a 1953 Ford Customline, i.e. it demonstrates the tribalism of belonging or ownership, the same phenomenon seen in football fans, religious bigots (including aggressive atheists), political party faithful, and “my country, right or wrong” nationalists. And Trump supporters.

Everything is limited, except God, if he is real, including computer apps, no one app does everything, even one suite does not do everything, it is always a matter of 'horses for courses'. Having said that, I have found no significant limits in OpenOffice and LibreOffice in relation to what they are intended to do, except that I gave up trying to get the Data Base to work years ago (I was spoiled by the old easy to set-up and use AppleWorks DBs), but even choosing between OO and LO is a matter of 'horses for courses’, they are functional equivalents but support slightly different ways of working and have some other minor differences, and if you want to write a book or a play or a collection of poems or short stories or academic treatises, no conventional WP is the best horse for that course, you really need an application like Scrivener, by Literature & Latte, for that. And if you want to write a concerto you need something else again.

Pride of ownership really is a bit silly, Brian, each of us needs to find the best ‘horses' to ride to our particular destinations, whether they be a Lambretta scooter, a Hummer 4WD, or an Outback Road Train. Or OO or LO or MS Office, or PageMaker, or Scrivener, or Bible Study, or whatever.
 
PCS. 


> On 25 Mar 2023, at 5:00 am, Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> At 18:30 24/03/2023 +0100, Amin Jack Pedziwiater wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 18:28 Joana Ottenbacher wrote:
>>> I am currently trying to split my work in separate pieces to decrease saving and usage lags. I want to pick the page count up from where I split. So I set the count correction to "+925". That doesn't give me any page number back. Is this a known issue or do I do something wrong here?
>> 
>> Yes, there is a limit. OpenOffice is limited.
> 
> No, there is no limit. What may be limited is your understanding of OpenOffice.
> 
> Are you perhaps for some reason prejudiced against OpenOffice?
> 
> Brian Barker 
> 
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Re: Brian Barker re Is there a limit to page number correction values in OO?

[Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com.INVALID>]

At 11:50 26/03/2023 +1000, Ponly Conly Sonly wrote:
>Dear Brian,
>You have initiated broader discussion, so I shall respond.

No: actually I didn't do that at all.

>Your "Are you perhaps for some reason prejudiced 
>against OpenOffice?" sounds like an equivalent 
>of my father's "If you can't afford a Dodge, 
>dodge a Ford" when he owned a 1928 Dodge (our 
>first family car) and his "If you can't afford a 
>Ford, dodge a Dodge" when he subsequently owned 
>a 1953 Ford Customline, i.e. it demonstrates the 
>tribalism of belonging or ownership, the same 
>phenomenon seen in football fans, religious 
>bigots (including aggressive atheists), 
>political party faithful, and "my country, right 
>or wrong" nationalists. And Trump supporters.

This is completely inappropriate and bordering on 
the offensive (as I'm sure others will see!). I 
was responding to a message from a particular 
subscriber, who had chosen neither to answer the 
original enquirer's question helpfully nor to 
leave the matter to others that could do so. His 
message had already received the critical 
response "This is not a very helpful answer, isn't it?" from someone else.

The message was just "Yes, there is a limit. 
OpenOffice is limited." - and neither of those 
statements was helpful in the circumstances. 
First, as I demonstrated in a separate reply to 
the original query, there was no limit preventing 
the original questioner from achieving what she 
needed. Secondly, messages sent to this Users 
list are distributed to multiple users around the 
world, and it is unhelpful if bold but inaccurate 
claims such as this are allowed to go 
unchallenged. I wrote the minimum required to 
avoid worldwide readers being misled. It was that 
responder's claim "OpenOffice is limited" that 
was tribal, not my contribution. Surely that is 
obvious on the most cursory of readings?

>Pride of ownership really is a bit silly, Brian, ...

Now you are becoming patronising as well, which you must know is unattractive.

I fail to see why you cannot appreciate that the 
(probable) tribalism was on the part of the 
responder whose message I was commenting on, not 
mine. Others will have understood this. I'm 
perfectly happy with anyone preferring whatever 
applications they do - as I frequently make clear 
in private correspondence. For me to point out 
that, in respect of the original user's problem 
at least, OpenOffice happens not to be "limited" 
can in no way be characterised as tribalism.

Please take care that you understand the relevant 
attitudes before making such criticisms as this. Thank you.

Brian Barker  



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