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[PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
* establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
* unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from dev@
Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Patrick Lightbody <fo...@opensymphony.com>.
Actually, you probably still want a jira@ or notifications@ list - only because those watches don't notify you of every change. They only let you know when an issue is added or removed from the list (opened or resolved), but not when it is commented on. I think.
I asked Scott @ Atlassian about improving this and he said it is part of a larger effort with roles they are working on. In the meantime, an mailing list for each service (as well as RSS alternatives) is a good way to go.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
> On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
>> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
>> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>>
>> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>>
>> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from
>> dev@
>>
>> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
>> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
>> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
>
> +1 on both suggestions. I can appreciate Don's concerns about the issues
> list, but I would still like people to have the option to receive all
> commits on *all* JIRA projects related to the Struts community, without
> having to manually subscribe to each project individually. If someone is
> interested in only one project, they can of course ignore the issues list
> and subscribe to that JIRA project directly.
FWIW, you can do this in JIRA now - we create a global filter that includes all projects and all tickets, then
interested parties can "watch" the filter. Just as easy, if not easier, than subscribing to a list.
Don
>
> Thanks,
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>> Wendy
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from
> dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
+1 on both suggestions. I can appreciate Don's concerns about the issues
list, but I would still like people to have the option to receive all
commits on *all* JIRA projects related to the Struts community, without
having to manually subscribe to each project individually. If someone is
interested in only one project, they can of course ignore the issues list
and subscribe to that JIRA project directly.
Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
Craig
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
+0 because I'd argue you don't need an issues@struts.apache.org since
anyone can "watch" ticket or project in JIRA they want. Webwork had all
messages automatically sent to webwork developers, but again, if you
wanted to be notified, just tell jira to watch a project for you.
But a separate issues@ would be lightyears ahead of our current situation :)
Don
Wendy Smoak wrote:
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Rainer Hermanns <he...@aixcept.de>.
+1 from me
cheers,
Rainer
> +1
>
> /Ian
>
> Rene Gielen wrote:
>> +1 !
>>
>> Wendy Smoak schrieb:
>>
>>> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
>>> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
>>> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>>>
>>> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>>>
>>> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs)
>>> from dev@
>>>
>>> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
>>> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
>>> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Wendy
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Ian Roughley <ia...@fdar.com>.
+1
/Ian
Rene Gielen wrote:
> +1 !
>
> Wendy Smoak schrieb:
>
>> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
>> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
>> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>>
>> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>>
>> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from dev@
>>
>> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
>> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
>> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Wendy
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>.
+1 !
Wendy Smoak schrieb:
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
+1
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki
> diffs) from dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Ed Griebel <ed...@gmail.com>.
+1 to both ideas
On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com>.
On 4/27/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, 'notifications@' is something I'd like to see for Continuum.
> :) With that addition, we'd have the same setup that Maven does:
> http://maven.apache.org/mail-lists.html
For the record, I think this is working great for us. One of the great
benefits of everything being separate is that you can now browse the
dev list and only see discussion.
- Brett
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 4/26/06, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am +0 for creating issues@. I'd prefer that we subscribe JIRA, Moin
> Moin, and Confluence to commits@, and keep all the automatic mail in
> one place. If it helps to rename commits@ to notifications@ or alerts@
> or logs@, then that would work for me too.
Separate lists will allow people to choose a custom combination of
email, forum, RSS feed, JIRA dashboard... whatever works for them.
However, 'notifications@' is something I'd like to see for Continuum.
:) With that addition, we'd have the same setup that Maven does:
http://maven.apache.org/mail-lists.html
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com>.
On 4/26/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> I will, however, point out that it breaks the mantra we so often repeat
> about all changes being visible on the dev@ list. It also allows for
> committers - and, more importantly, PMC members - to opt out of seeing what
> goes on throughout the project, which is definitely A Bad Idea (TM) in my
> opinion.
I believe the mantra is that all changes should be visible on a public
mailing list. Many projects use commits@ for subversion logs without
subscribing it to dev@.
I do believe that all the system-generated mail should go a separte
list. I do see the value of add of keeping dev@ clear of daily
automatic posts.
So I am +1 for unsubscribing commits@.
I am +0 for creating issues@. I'd prefer that we subscribe JIRA, Moin
Moin, and Confluence to commits@, and keep all the automatic mail in
one place. If it helps to rename commits@ to notifications@ or alerts@
or logs@, then that would work for me too.
-Ted.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages,
I'm not sure what is hard about filtering and sorting based on "to dev@s.a.o"
and "from jira.a.o" exactly. My own filters are working just fine right
now...
and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds,
My understanding is that that will happen, or is already happening, without
any changes to the way the mailing lists work today...
I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from
> dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
Based on my comments above, I actually see zero reason to change anything.
However, if it's something people want, for whatever reason, I won't
vehemently oppose it.
I will, however, point out that it breaks the mantra we so often repeat
about all changes being visible on the dev@ list. It also allows for
committers - and, more importantly, PMC members - to opt out of seeing what
goes on throughout the project, which is definitely A Bad Idea (TM) in my
opinion.
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Thanks,
> --
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 4/29/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Feel free to add me as moderator for all lists, I'm already one for
> user and dev.
Thanks. And thanks to Brett Porter for what must have been the
fastest response on an INFRA ticket in the history of the ASF! The
lists are done:
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-780?page=all
> If these lists can be done by JavaOne that would be great, otherwise
> I'm afraid the Continuum server will begin dumping msgs to dev
IMO Continuum should be sending to a separate notifications@ list, not
one of the existing lists. We don't need to archive the build
success/failure messages.
But definitely not to dev@, or we'll be back in the same situation
with the forums being filled up with non-discussion content. Maybe
commits@, as you suggested on the WW chat... though that still
archives them.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Feel free to add me as moderator for all lists, I'm already one for
user and dev.
If these lists can be done by JavaOne that would be great, otherwise
I'm afraid the Continuum server will begin dumping msgs to dev, which
is sure to elicit gripes from the people who don't know what a mail
filter is.
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James Mitchell
On Apr 29, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> The proposal to establish issues@struts.apache.org resulted in
>
> 10 +1 votes (four from PMC members: James, Greg, Craig, Wendy)
> 2 +0 votes (Don and Ted)
>
> The proposal to unsubscribe commits@ from dev@ resulted in
>
> 11 +1 votes (five from PMC members James, Greg, Craig, Ted, Wendy)
> 1 +0 vote (Don)
>
> (Counting my implied +1 since it looks like I didn't vote. :) And I'm
> not exactly sure how to count the votes... the voting page [1] wasn't
> much help for proposals.)
>
> I'll go ahead and ask infrastructure to establish the new
> issues@struts.apache.org list with archives, and to make sure that
> commits@ will be archived before we unsub it from dev@. (I assume a
> moderator for dev@ can do that part.)
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> Thanks,
> Wendy
>
> On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
>> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
>> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>>
>> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>>
>> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki
>> diffs) from dev@
>>
>> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
>> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
>> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Wendy
>>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 5/13/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/12/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks ... I meant to do that, but got distracted by preparations for a
> demo
> > I'm going to do in the Tuesday keynote next week. It'll be a fun one
> ...
> > you'll want to make sure you see it :-)
>
> Is this during the 8:30-10:30 general session?
Yes.
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> Wendy
Craig
Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 5/12/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks ... I meant to do that, but got distracted by preparations for a demo
> I'm going to do in the Tuesday keynote next week. It'll be a fun one ...
> you'll want to make sure you see it :-)
Is this during the 8:30-10:30 general session?
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 5/12/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/11/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I tried to do this, but my "apmail" karma only works on the mail server,
> not
> > on minotaur where this particular file needs to be edited.
>
> Done. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-802
Thanks ... I meant to do that, but got distracted by preparations for a demo
I'm going to do in the Tuesday keynote next week. It'll be a fun one ...
you'll want to make sure you see it :-)
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> Wendy
Craig
Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 5/11/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> I tried to do this, but my "apmail" karma only works on the mail server, not
> on minotaur where this particular file needs to be edited.
Done. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-802
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 5/11/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/1/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of dev@. Is
> > > > that something that someone here can fix, or do I need to open
> another
> > > > issue with infrastructure?
> > >
> > > I know how to do this, but I don't have the perms. ;-( It seems you
> need
> > > either apmail or root to change it, so I guess a ticket is in order.
> ...
> > It so happens I have "apmail" karma ... if you want to forward me the
> > necessary steps I should be able to take care of this.
>
> Martin and Craig, do you think you can make this change? If not, let
> me know and I'll open an issue with infrastructure.
I tried to do this, but my "apmail" karma only works on the mail server, not
on minotaur where this particular file needs to be edited. It will be
necessary to file an infra issue for it, although I suspect they'll consider
things like getting SVN back up to be more important right at the moment
:-).
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 5/1/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of dev@. Is
> > > that something that someone here can fix, or do I need to open another
> > > issue with infrastructure?
> >
> > I know how to do this, but I don't have the perms. ;-( It seems you need
> > either apmail or root to change it, so I guess a ticket is in order.
...
> It so happens I have "apmail" karma ... if you want to forward me the
> necessary steps I should be able to take care of this.
Martin and Craig, do you think you can make this change? If not, let
me know and I'll open an issue with infrastructure.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 5/1/06, Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Martin was the one that knew the steps - I've not done anything with
> the wikidiffs myself. :)
Aha ... note to self ... match the names to the indent levels :-)
Cheers,
> Brett
Craig
On 5/2/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for
> commits
> > > > > to save the moderators some time.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Brett!
> > > >
> > > > We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of dev@. Is
> > > > that something that someone here can fix, or do I need to open
> another
> > > > issue with infrastructure?
> > >
> > >
> > > I know how to do this, but I don't have the perms. ;-( It seems you
> need
> > > either apmail or root to change it, so I guess a ticket is in order.
> >
> >
> > Brett,
> >
> > It so happens I have "apmail" karma ... if you want to forward me the
> > necessary steps I should be able to take care of this.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > --
> > > Martin Cooper
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll update mail.xml with the new list descriptions tonight.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Wendy
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com>.
Martin was the one that knew the steps - I've not done anything with
the wikidiffs myself. :)
Cheers,
Brett
On 5/2/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> > > >
> > > > I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits
> > > > to save the moderators some time.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Brett!
> > >
> > > We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of dev@. Is
> > > that something that someone here can fix, or do I need to open another
> > > issue with infrastructure?
> >
> >
> > I know how to do this, but I don't have the perms. ;-( It seems you need
> > either apmail or root to change it, so I guess a ticket is in order.
>
>
> Brett,
>
> It so happens I have "apmail" karma ... if you want to forward me the
> necessary steps I should be able to take care of this.
>
> Craig
>
>
> --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> > I'll update mail.xml with the new list descriptions tonight.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wendy
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> > >
> > > I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits
> > > to save the moderators some time.
> >
> > Thanks, Brett!
> >
> > We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of dev@. Is
> > that something that someone here can fix, or do I need to open another
> > issue with infrastructure?
>
>
> I know how to do this, but I don't have the perms. ;-( It seems you need
> either apmail or root to change it, so I guess a ticket is in order.
Brett,
It so happens I have "apmail" karma ... if you want to forward me the
necessary steps I should be able to take care of this.
Craig
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> Martin Cooper
>
>
> I'll update mail.xml with the new list descriptions tonight.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wendy
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
> >
> >
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> >
> > I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits
> > to save the moderators some time.
>
> Thanks, Brett!
>
> We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of dev@. Is
> that something that someone here can fix, or do I need to open another
> issue with infrastructure?
I know how to do this, but I don't have the perms. ;-( It seems you need
either apmail or root to change it, so I guess a ticket is in order.
--
Martin Cooper
I'll update mail.xml with the new list descriptions tonight.
>
> Thanks,
> Wendy
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits
> to save the moderators some time.
Thanks, Brett!
We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of dev@. Is
that something that someone here can fix, or do I need to open another
issue with infrastructure?
I'll update mail.xml with the new list descriptions tonight.
Thanks,
Wendy
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Excellent and thanks for all your help.
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On Apr 30, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
> My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits
> to save the moderators some time.
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
> On 5/1/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Same here.
>>
>> --
>> James Mitchell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
>>
>> > On 4/30/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not long after this, the moderation emails came in.
>> >
>> > For issues@ or commits@? I received a couple of moderation
>> emails for
>> > issues, (and I see someone already let them through,) but my commit
>> > message from yesterday bounced with:
>> >
>> >> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
>> >> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>> >> addresses.
>> >> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work
>> out.
>> >>
>> >> <co...@struts.apache.org>:
>> >> ezmlm-send: fatal: key does not exist
>> >> ezmlm-gate: fatal: fatal error from child
>> >
>> > And I haven't seen a commit message (other than the one I
>> forwarded)
>> > since Saturday morning. :/
>> >
>> > --
>> > Wendy
>> >
>> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com>.
My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits
to save the moderators some time.
Cheers,
Brett
On 5/1/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Same here.
>
> --
> James Mitchell
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
>
> > On 4/30/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Not long after this, the moderation emails came in.
> >
> > For issues@ or commits@? I received a couple of moderation emails for
> > issues, (and I see someone already let them through,) but my commit
> > message from yesterday bounced with:
> >
> >> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
> >> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> >> addresses.
> >> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> >>
> >> <co...@struts.apache.org>:
> >> ezmlm-send: fatal: key does not exist
> >> ezmlm-gate: fatal: fatal error from child
> >
> > And I haven't seen a commit message (other than the one I forwarded)
> > since Saturday morning. :/
> >
> > --
> > Wendy
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Same here.
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On Apr 30, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On 4/30/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Not long after this, the moderation emails came in.
>
> For issues@ or commits@? I received a couple of moderation emails for
> issues, (and I see someone already let them through,) but my commit
> message from yesterday bounced with:
>
>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>> addresses.
>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>
>> <co...@struts.apache.org>:
>> ezmlm-send: fatal: key does not exist
>> ezmlm-gate: fatal: fatal error from child
>
> And I haven't seen a commit message (other than the one I forwarded)
> since Saturday morning. :/
>
> --
> Wendy
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 4/30/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Not long after this, the moderation emails came in.
For issues@ or commits@? I received a couple of moderation emails for
issues, (and I see someone already let them through,) but my commit
message from yesterday bounced with:
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <co...@struts.apache.org>:
> ezmlm-send: fatal: key does not exist
> ezmlm-gate: fatal: fatal error from child
And I haven't seen a commit message (other than the one I forwarded)
since Saturday morning. :/
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Not long after this, the moderation emails came in.
--
James Mitchell
On Apr 29, 2006, at 9:46 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On 4/29/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> That's because this was *not* a vote. It was a proposal. The +1's,
>> +0s, etc.
>> do not count as votes but as expressions of agreement or
>> otherwise. That
>> there were no -1 or -0 comments indicates that there was general
>> concensus
>> to go ahead.
>>
>> In general, we need to get better at not throwing +1s, etc.,
>> around all the
>> time as if they were votes, because clearly it can cause some
>> confusion when
>> they're not. ;-) And I admit I'm just as guilty of this as anyone
>> else.
>
> Got it. I don't think discouraging people from using +1's to express
> opinions is necessary, just educating the proposal writers on the
> proper way to summarize the discussion. :) So now I know.
>
> Commit messages are bouncing from the new list, so please forward them
> to dev@ or wait until it gets sorted out. I reopened
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-780 for it.
>
> I also switched the 'single email address' in the JIRA notification
> scheme over to issues@, so the first message will probably need to be
> let through. (Assuming it doesn't have the same problem as
> commits@. I'm not sure where those bounces would go.)
>
> --
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 4/29/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> That's because this was *not* a vote. It was a proposal. The +1's, +0s, etc.
> do not count as votes but as expressions of agreement or otherwise. That
> there were no -1 or -0 comments indicates that there was general concensus
> to go ahead.
>
> In general, we need to get better at not throwing +1s, etc., around all the
> time as if they were votes, because clearly it can cause some confusion when
> they're not. ;-) And I admit I'm just as guilty of this as anyone else.
Got it. I don't think discouraging people from using +1's to express
opinions is necessary, just educating the proposal writers on the
proper way to summarize the discussion. :) So now I know.
Commit messages are bouncing from the new list, so please forward them
to dev@ or wait until it gets sorted out. I reopened
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-780 for it.
I also switched the 'single email address' in the JIRA notification
scheme over to issues@, so the first message will probably need to be
let through. (Assuming it doesn't have the same problem as commits@.
I'm not sure where those bounces would go.)
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 4/29/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The proposal to establish issues@struts.apache.org resulted in
>
> 10 +1 votes (four from PMC members: James, Greg, Craig, Wendy)
> 2 +0 votes (Don and Ted)
>
> The proposal to unsubscribe commits@ from dev@ resulted in
>
> 11 +1 votes (five from PMC members James, Greg, Craig, Ted, Wendy)
> 1 +0 vote (Don)
>
> (Counting my implied +1 since it looks like I didn't vote. :) And I'm
> not exactly sure how to count the votes... the voting page [1] wasn't
> much help for proposals.)
That's because this was *not* a vote. It was a proposal. The +1's, +0s, etc.
do not count as votes but as expressions of agreement or otherwise. That
there were no -1 or -0 comments indicates that there was general concensus
to go ahead.
In general, we need to get better at not throwing +1s, etc., around all the
time as if they were votes, because clearly it can cause some confusion when
they're not. ;-) And I admit I'm just as guilty of this as anyone else.
--
Martin Cooper
I'll go ahead and ask infrastructure to establish the new
> issues@struts.apache.org list with archives, and to make sure that
> commits@ will be archived before we unsub it from dev@. (I assume a
> moderator for dev@ can do that part.)
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> Thanks,
> Wendy
>
> On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> > presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> > RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
> >
> > * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
> >
> > * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs)
> from dev@
> >
> > Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> > dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> > possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Wendy
> >
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
The proposal to establish issues@struts.apache.org resulted in
10 +1 votes (four from PMC members: James, Greg, Craig, Wendy)
2 +0 votes (Don and Ted)
The proposal to unsubscribe commits@ from dev@ resulted in
11 +1 votes (five from PMC members James, Greg, Craig, Ted, Wendy)
1 +0 vote (Don)
(Counting my implied +1 since it looks like I didn't vote. :) And I'm
not exactly sure how to count the votes... the voting page [1] wasn't
much help for proposals.)
I'll go ahead and ask infrastructure to establish the new
issues@struts.apache.org list with archives, and to make sure that
commits@ will be archived before we unsub it from dev@. (I assume a
moderator for dev@ can do that part.)
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
Thanks,
Wendy
On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
+1
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On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:44 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
>
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki
> diffs) from dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 5/22/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Patrick pointed out that JIRA notifications are still showing up in
> the forum. I tried unsubscribing forum-struts-dev@opensymphony.com
> from issues@ again, but the reply indicates that the address was not
> subscribed.
Mystery solved! Martin noticed that the notifications showing up in
the forum were indeed sent to dev@. They were from issues that are
assigned to "Struts Developers Mailing List". I changed that user's
email address to issues@struts.apache.org.
Patrick, let me know if anything else shows up in the forum that shouldn't.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 5/22/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/15/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think this is done. As a moderator, I sent the unsubscribe
> > requests, then replied to the confirmation emails, but I never saw the
> > 'goodbye' message. Let me know if you still see non-discussion emails
> > in the forum after today.
>
> Patrick pointed out that JIRA notifications are still showing up in
> the forum. I tried unsubscribing forum-struts-dev@opensymphony.com
> from issues@ again, but the reply indicates that the address was not
> subscribed.
>
> I'm not sure what else to try. Any ideas?
I just unsubscribed that address successfully, so we should be OK now.
--
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> On the Apache mail archives, JIRA issues and commits are being
> > archived both on issues@/commits@ and on dev@:
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/struts-dev/200605.mbox/browser
> >
> > I'll reopen the infrastructure ticket, unless it's supposed to be this
> way.
>
> Reopened: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-780
>
> --
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 5/15/06, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is done. As a moderator, I sent the unsubscribe
> requests, then replied to the confirmation emails, but I never saw the
> 'goodbye' message. Let me know if you still see non-discussion emails
> in the forum after today.
Patrick pointed out that JIRA notifications are still showing up in
the forum. I tried unsubscribing forum-struts-dev@opensymphony.com
from issues@ again, but the reply indicates that the address was not
subscribed.
I'm not sure what else to try. Any ideas?
> On the Apache mail archives, JIRA issues and commits are being
> archived both on issues@/commits@ and on dev@:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/struts-dev/200605.mbox/browser
>
> I'll reopen the infrastructure ticket, unless it's supposed to be this way.
Reopened: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-780
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 5/14/06, Patrick Lightbody <fo...@opensymphony.com> wrote:
> It looks like this is now basically done (the JIRA issue is complete). The final step will be to unsubscribe the address forum-struts-dev@opensymphony.com from all lists except for the dev@ list. That will keep the forums synced on the OpenSymphony forums limited to just the discussions.
I think this is done. As a moderator, I sent the unsubscribe
requests, then replied to the confirmation emails, but I never saw the
'goodbye' message. Let me know if you still see non-discussion emails
in the forum after today.
On the Apache mail archives, JIRA issues and commits are being
archived both on issues@/commits@ and on dev@:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/struts-dev/200605.mbox/browser
I'll reopen the infrastructure ticket, unless it's supposed to be this way.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 4/25/06, Patrick Lightbody <fo...@opensymphony.com> wrote:
>
> +1000000000000000000000000
OK, now tell us how you *really* feel :-).
Craig
RE: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Josep Ferrer Boix <jf...@isoco.com>.
+1
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Wendy Smoak [mailto:wsmoak@gmail.com]
Enviado el: dimecres, 26 / abril / 2006 03:45
Para: Struts Developers List
Asunto: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
* establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA emails to it
* unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs) from
dev@
Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected. (Except for
possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
Thanks,
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion
Posted by Patrick Lightbody <fo...@opensymphony.com>.
It looks like this is now basically done (the JIRA issue is complete). The final step will be to unsubscribe the address forum-struts-dev@opensymphony.com from all lists except for the dev@ list. That will keep the forums synced on the OpenSymphony forums limited to just the discussions. I was trying to figure out how to do that myself, but I didn't have a lot of luck.
Any hints?
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to
> facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces
> such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
> * establish issues@struts.apache.org and direct JIRA
> emails to it
> * unsubscribe commits@apache.org (svn commit
> messages and Wiki diffs) from dev@
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could
> be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected.
> (Except for
> ossibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>
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