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Posted to dev@ace.apache.org by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com> on 2009/05/18 11:18:35 UTC
First code visits
On the railway, i had a look in the ace codebase, where i encountered
the tight java 6 constraint. With no wifi and just java 5 on the spare
notebook.. it was a stopper.
So, why is that in general (ace requirement?) and is there a special
reason why even basic stuff like the ant bundle-project plugin is
class compatible just to java >= 6 ?
Is the plugin source available yet ? Or is it possible to get a more
compatible (lower java versions) build (if possible at all).
cheers,
Toni
Re: First code visits
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
On May 19, 2009, at 18:08 , Toni Menzel wrote:
> Quick repsonse: have a good overview of ace now. Also, an exam based
> integrationtest in on its way. Cool is that this will also show
> integration of Pax Exam with non maven based artifacts/projects.
> (sorry for being off topic here..)
A bit off topic but nevertheless interesting!
> Now back to ace:
> Are there any additional / more high level slides to share ?
> I remembered some very colorful pitches that might help other adopters
> as too - if not apropriate here i probably just dreamed of those
> before.
Yes, there are some slides that will help understand the high-level
picture. When building the website, I will add some images from those
where appropriate. Please remind me if I forget this! :)
Greetings, Marcel
Re: First code visits
Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
Quick repsonse: have a good overview of ace now. Also, an exam based
integrationtest in on its way. Cool is that this will also show
integration of Pax Exam with non maven based artifacts/projects.
(sorry for being off topic here..)
Now back to ace:
Are there any additional / more high level slides to share ?
I remembered some very colorful pitches that might help other adopters
as too - if not apropriate here i probably just dreamed of those
before.
On 5/18/09, Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> Oops, sorry, we recently migrated to a different server, forgot about
> those (corrected the page now):
>
> https://opensource.luminis.net/svn/BUNDLES/trunk/build-plugin/
> https://opensource.luminis.net/svn/BUNDLES/releases/build-plugin-0.2.0/
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
> On May 18, 2009, at 12:26 , Toni Menzel wrote:
>
>> fyi, plugin source links
>> -
>> https://opensource.luminis.net/subversion/oss/projects/bundles/trunk/build-plugin/
>> -
>> https://opensource.luminis.net/subversion/oss/projects/bundles/releases/build-plugin-0.2.0/
>>
>> are broken.
>
--
Toni Menzel
Independent Software Developer - Looking for new projects!
Professional Profile: http://www.osgify.com
Blog: tonitcom.blogspot.com
toni@okidokiteam.com
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Participation Software.
Re: First code visits
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Oops, sorry, we recently migrated to a different server, forgot about
those (corrected the page now):
https://opensource.luminis.net/svn/BUNDLES/trunk/build-plugin/
https://opensource.luminis.net/svn/BUNDLES/releases/build-plugin-0.2.0/
Greetings, Marcel
On May 18, 2009, at 12:26 , Toni Menzel wrote:
> fyi, plugin source links
> - https://opensource.luminis.net/subversion/oss/projects/bundles/trunk/build-plugin/
> - https://opensource.luminis.net/subversion/oss/projects/bundles/releases/build-plugin-0.2.0/
>
> are broken.
Re: First code visits
Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
fyi, plugin source links
- https://opensource.luminis.net/subversion/oss/projects/bundles/trunk/build-plugin/
- https://opensource.luminis.net/subversion/oss/projects/bundles/releases/build-plugin-0.2.0/
are broken.
On 5/18/09, Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:
> thanks, marcel!
> yeah, i would really like to see at least an incremental java 5
> support where possible. Once i can build (;-) i will look into that.
> Reason is - i would never have bothered - that the machine runs on Mac
> OS X 10.4 which does not even support java 6. (didn't believe it
> first, too)
>
>
> On 5/18/09, Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
>> Hello Toni,
>>
>> On May 18, 2009, at 11:18 , Toni Menzel wrote:
>>
>>> On the railway, i had a look in the ace codebase, where i encountered
>>> the tight java 6 constraint. With no wifi and just java 5 on the spare
>>> notebook.. it was a stopper.
>>
>> Ok, sorry about that.
>>
>>> So, why is that in general (ace requirement?) and is there a special
>>> reason why even basic stuff like the ant bundle-project plugin is
>>> class compatible just to java >= 6 ?
>>
>> There were two reasons (both of which can be debated):
>> 1) we had a Java 6 dependency anyway for the Swing client
>> 2) Java 5 will be end of lifed by Sun this year anyway
>>
>> We did not donate 1) so that is no longer that valid.
>> There are other parties (such as Apple) providing and supporting Java 5.
>>
>>> Is the plugin source available yet ? Or is it possible to get a more
>>> compatible (lower java versions) build (if possible at all).
>>
>> Yes, the plugin source is available (for some time now):
>> http://opensource.luminis.net/wiki/display/SITE/OSGi+Bundle+Ant+Task
>>
>> It should build on Java 5.
>>
>> Greetings, Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Toni Menzel
> Independent Software Developer - Looking for new projects!
> Professional Profile: http://www.osgify.com
> Blog: tonitcom.blogspot.com
> toni@okidokiteam.com
> http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
> Participation Software.
>
--
Toni Menzel
Independent Software Developer - Looking for new projects!
Professional Profile: http://www.osgify.com
Blog: tonitcom.blogspot.com
toni@okidokiteam.com
http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
Participation Software.
Re: First code visits
Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
thanks, marcel!
yeah, i would really like to see at least an incremental java 5
support where possible. Once i can build (;-) i will look into that.
Reason is - i would never have bothered - that the machine runs on Mac
OS X 10.4 which does not even support java 6. (didn't believe it
first, too)
On 5/18/09, Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> Hello Toni,
>
> On May 18, 2009, at 11:18 , Toni Menzel wrote:
>
>> On the railway, i had a look in the ace codebase, where i encountered
>> the tight java 6 constraint. With no wifi and just java 5 on the spare
>> notebook.. it was a stopper.
>
> Ok, sorry about that.
>
>> So, why is that in general (ace requirement?) and is there a special
>> reason why even basic stuff like the ant bundle-project plugin is
>> class compatible just to java >= 6 ?
>
> There were two reasons (both of which can be debated):
> 1) we had a Java 6 dependency anyway for the Swing client
> 2) Java 5 will be end of lifed by Sun this year anyway
>
> We did not donate 1) so that is no longer that valid.
> There are other parties (such as Apple) providing and supporting Java 5.
>
>> Is the plugin source available yet ? Or is it possible to get a more
>> compatible (lower java versions) build (if possible at all).
>
> Yes, the plugin source is available (for some time now):
> http://opensource.luminis.net/wiki/display/SITE/OSGi+Bundle+Ant+Task
>
> It should build on Java 5.
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>
--
Toni Menzel
Independent Software Developer - Looking for new projects!
Professional Profile: http://www.osgify.com
Blog: tonitcom.blogspot.com
toni@okidokiteam.com
http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
Participation Software.
Re: First code visits
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Hello Toni,
On May 18, 2009, at 11:18 , Toni Menzel wrote:
> On the railway, i had a look in the ace codebase, where i encountered
> the tight java 6 constraint. With no wifi and just java 5 on the spare
> notebook.. it was a stopper.
Ok, sorry about that.
> So, why is that in general (ace requirement?) and is there a special
> reason why even basic stuff like the ant bundle-project plugin is
> class compatible just to java >= 6 ?
There were two reasons (both of which can be debated):
1) we had a Java 6 dependency anyway for the Swing client
2) Java 5 will be end of lifed by Sun this year anyway
We did not donate 1) so that is no longer that valid.
There are other parties (such as Apple) providing and supporting Java 5.
> Is the plugin source available yet ? Or is it possible to get a more
> compatible (lower java versions) build (if possible at all).
Yes, the plugin source is available (for some time now):
http://opensource.luminis.net/wiki/display/SITE/OSGi+Bundle+Ant+Task
It should build on Java 5.
Greetings, Marcel