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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk> on 2002/12/01 05:53:36 UTC
RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Ok, yes everyone has Flash installed already. They're all also using
IE6.
Server has not been down nor getting heavy traffic.
So what else could be up?
Seems to me that people behind a firewall are having trouble accessing
the Flash content. However they don't have problems with any other Flash
pages. It's not the file either because it works for them if I upload it
to another server.
Anyone know what could possibly be wrong?
Tim McCormick
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex "Sniper" Togstad [mailto:sniper@3dretreat.com]
Sent: 30 November 2002 21:57
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Well, for the people that HAVE flashed installed, they will be able to
see it.
For the people that can't see it, they *should* be promted to download
flash and install it. IF not they need to install the flash viewer from
macromedia.com and install it.
Also, what browsers are people using?
IE 6.0 here..
Your page wont even load... Server must be down, or its getting heavy
traffic, or something else is up . . .
----
Alex Togstad
Web Developer
alextogstad@3dretreat.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim McCormick" <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
> I'm still puzzled, it appears to work on some peoples computers, but
> not others.
>
> Any idea why this might be?
>
> Tim McCormick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Meadors [mailto:clubneon@hereintown.net]
> Sent: 30 November 2002 04:51
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
> Tim McCormick wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm sure you're all tired of this question but here goes:
> >
> > Whenever I try and load a flash page from Apache using
> > http://localhost it works fine. However when people from outside the
> > network attempt to access it the browser says 'waiting for reply'
> > and never gets any further. The log shows the request for the .htm
> > file but not the .swf file.
> >
> > And yes, I have already tried the 'mime type' solution.
> >
> > For the record I'm running 2.0.43 on WinXP and the sites address is
> > http://www.timmcc.co.uk/ where the index file is a flash one.
>
> Works for me. The frameset it pointing to an IP not a hostname, but
> other than that I see the flash.
>
> --
> Chris
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Gary,
I agree Flash is OK, but it can be a PITA also. I will usually skip it unless it is one
of those that really catchs my eye. Not many do....
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On 12/1/2002 at 5:04 PM Gary Turner wrote:
>Steven Pierce wrote:
>>Alex Togstad wrote: <-- added, gt
>
><snip>
>>> I just want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh* be my
>crappy
>>>attbi dns servers tho.
>
>Alex, you might try running traceroute and ping to test the net.
>>
>>Alex,
>>
>>It is not you, it is the site. I went to the site also, and it was
>coming up blank.
>>I looked at the code on the site, and it is does not have much on it.
>
>I've looked at the site before, so DNS cache is probably alive. After
>clearing the page cache, a get took about 0.6 sec. A subsequent get to
>217.42.49.139 takes about 0.38 sec, and the reload about 0.33 sec. So
>the site seems OK.
>
>For the most part, I consider frames and flash a PITA. This page isn't
>bad, though.
>
>--
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> If someone tells you---
> "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny."
> ---they don't.
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
Yeah, the flash file is fully tried and tested as you saw ;-)
Tim McCormick
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From: Koen Vingerhoets [mailto:koen.vingerhoets@ubench.com]
Sent: 03 December 2002 09:12
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Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Hi,
are you sure there isn't an error in the flash movie? Like variables
not coming through?? Is the swf in your temporary internet files???
Eeps Opera 7 just showed me a nice swf :) timmcc.co.uk... coming soon ;)
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From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
Sent: 03 December 2002 06:52
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Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Tim,
I still can not see the page.... If I go to the IP (listed below) I get
a page that starts trying to connect, but never goes anywhere. My
browser (Ie, Mozilla) just sits and spins...
Steven
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On 12/2/2002 at 6:03 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>I already use both tags in the HTML, to view it without frames don't
>use the domain name, go directly to:
>
>http://217.42.49.139/
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
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>Sent: 02 December 2002 15:46
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>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
>
>
>My bad... The problem is with the his HTML tags or the use of Frames.
>I use Flash everyday with frames and I'm on the list thus also use
>Apache. Just program one page name in index.html and insert only the
><object> and <embed> tags with no frames and check it out.
>
>J
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Posted by Koen Vingerhoets <ko...@ubench.com>.
Hi,
are you sure there isn't an error in the flash movie? Like variables not
coming through??
Is the swf in your temporary internet files???
Eeps Opera 7 just showed me a nice swf :) timmcc.co.uk... coming soon ;)
Met vriendelijke groet,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
Sent: 03 December 2002 06:52
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Tim,
I still can not see the page.... If I go to the IP (listed below) I get a
page that starts trying to
connect, but never goes anywhere. My browser (Ie, Mozilla) just sits and
spins...
Steven
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On 12/2/2002 at 6:03 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>I already use both tags in the HTML, to view it without frames don't use
>the domain name, go directly to:
>
>http://217.42.49.139/
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Apache [mailto:apache@productivitymedia.com]
>Sent: 02 December 2002 15:46
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
>
>
>My bad... The problem is with the his HTML tags or the use of Frames.
>I use Flash everyday with frames and I'm on the list thus also use
>Apache. Just program one page name in index.html and insert only the
><object> and <embed> tags with no frames and check it out.
>
>J
>
>PS. Microsoft is evil... remember?
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Tim,
I still can not see the page.... If I go to the IP (listed below) I get a page that starts trying to
connect, but never goes anywhere. My browser (Ie, Mozilla) just sits and spins...
Steven
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On 12/2/2002 at 6:03 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>I already use both tags in the HTML, to view it without frames don't use
>the domain name, go directly to:
>
>http://217.42.49.139/
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
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>From: Apache [mailto:apache@productivitymedia.com]
>Sent: 02 December 2002 15:46
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
>
>
>My bad... The problem is with the his HTML tags or the use of Frames.
>I use Flash everyday with frames and I'm on the list thus also use
>Apache. Just program one page name in index.html and insert only the
><object> and <embed> tags with no frames and check it out.
>
>J
>
>PS. Microsoft is evil... remember?
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
I already use both tags in the HTML, to view it without frames don't use
the domain name, go directly to:
http://217.42.49.139/
Tim McCormick
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From: Apache [mailto:apache@productivitymedia.com]
Sent: 02 December 2002 15:46
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
My bad... The problem is with the his HTML tags or the use of Frames.
I use Flash everyday with frames and I'm on the list thus also use
Apache. Just program one page name in index.html and insert only the
<object> and <embed> tags with no frames and check it out.
J
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Re: [users@httpd] Basic Auth and SSL
Posted by Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net>.
SSLRequireSSL inside the same location block that does the Auth stuff
Issac
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Subject: [users@httpd] Basic Auth and SSL
>
> Just curious,
> Is there any way to force apache to use SSL any time it's
> asking a browser for authentication? We've a few areas of our web site
> where users ask for passwords & it would be nice if I could get apache
> to automatically switch to SSL for these areas without the user having to
> do it.
>
> Users would often forget the https:// if they had to type it and use
http://
> anyway.
>
> Cheers,
> Dunk
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Re: [users@httpd] Basic Auth and SSL
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Duncan Brannen wrote:
> Is there any way to force apache to use SSL any time it's
> asking a browser for authentication? We've a few areas of our web site
> where users ask for passwords & it would be nice if I could get apache
> to automatically switch to SSL for these areas without the user having to
> do it.
>
> Users would often forget the https:// if they had to type it and use http://
> anyway.
When I am nice I use somethign like
<Directory ....
or.. VirtualHost .. whatver.. (thouhg see below; directory isbetter)
# Make rather sure we are using TLS before we start
# messing with passwords and all that.
#
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !=on # or use SSLRequireSSL
# + error routing depending
# on threath model
RewriteRule (.*) https://intranet.asemantics.net/ [R]
and then the usual
AuthType basic
...
require valid user
This is the fairly friendly and not that locked down config which is fine
in an environment where you control the resources and trust the users who
have an account on your system.
If I am not so nice; have a paranoid customer; or just as a precaution I
may defined the above but also put a SSLRequireSSL on the more sensitive
resources as well (say with a very narrow directory or file pointer) - to
trap any errors should someone fiddle with the config.
Do not use this with things like Location or other URI rather than
physical file path avoiding techniques.
Dw.
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[users@httpd] Basic Auth and SSL
Posted by Duncan Brannen <db...@st-andrews.ac.uk>.
Just curious,
Is there any way to force apache to use SSL any time it's
asking a browser for authentication? We've a few areas of our web site
where users ask for passwords & it would be nice if I could get apache
to automatically switch to SSL for these areas without the user having to
do it.
Users would often forget the https:// if they had to type it and use http://
anyway.
Cheers,
Dunk
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Re: [users@httpd] New discovery
Posted by Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net>.
From: "Chris Meadors" <cl...@hereintown.net>
> How is an image or any other "data" different from HTML?
>
I don't know whether it's the issue, but take the DEFLATE filter
(mod_deflate) - that works only on HTML "data". Although we sometimes take
our understanding that HTTP payloads can be generic data for granted,
sometimes the data type does make a difference at some small point in the
server - like a HTML-aimed module. Now in this case, it could be that, for
example, mod_deflate is gzipping all content, which while it *should* be OK,
is not supported by most browsers (which mostly accept only gzipped HTML)
Issac
Issac
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Re: [users@httpd] New discovery
Posted by Tim Wort <ti...@pobox.com>.
One way that a router could cause this: first if the server is behind a
firewall that blocks all ICMP messages (a typical mistake by inexperienced
firewall admins) it is possible that a router between the server and the
client requires the the MTU of the packets be reduced. Most modern systems
send packets with the DNF (do not fragment) flag set. When fragmentation
is required on such a packet the router that requires this will return a
ICMP message to the sender requesting a reduced packet size. If the
firewall blocks this your data will appear to be sent but will never
arrive and only the logs (or using a sniffer beyond the router) on the
router will explain why the packets (ICMP messages) are dropped. Because
HTML is typically smaller amounts of data it will make it past the router
that requires fragmentation.
This type of problem is generally inconsistant depending on where the
packets need frgmentation, if its a long way down stream you will only see
it when talking with particualr machines (beyond the offending router) but
not from other parts of the network. If the offending router is close to
you it is possible you will see this problem with all larger files. Does
ftp work from the same client to youe server?
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Re: [users@httpd] New discovery
Posted by Chris Meadors <cl...@hereintown.net>.
Alex Pilson wrote:
> At 12:41 AM +0000 12/3/02, Tim McCormick wrote:
>
>> Ok, I think I've found what's happening to my server, but I still don't
>> know why. It has nothing to do with Flash.
>>
>> Anyone who does not connect to the internet directly cannot access
>> anything other than plain HTML from the site (not even pictures).
>> According to the logs the files get sent out, but they never arrive.
>>
>> Any insights as to what could be the problem?
>
>
> I had seen that problem when I had a T-1 with Savvis. It was a router
> issue.
How is an image or any other "data" different from HTML?
How is a person not directly connected to the Internet? Even a pigeon
carrying datagrams is still IP.
I have to admit this problem does have me a little intrigued. I don't
know if the problem does relate specifically to the type of data or the
connection.
Thinking about it. The HTML is more than likely all 7-bit. Images and
Flash will have 8-bit data. Do images show up broken in people's
browsers that don't work? Have you tried wget (or even telnet to see if
the headers look okay) on a machine that can't display the pages, to see
if anything is retrieved, and what state it is in. But why can some
people retrieve it correctly, and others can't? If the problem was on
the server's end, it would effect everyone. If the problem was on the
client's end, they shouldn't be able to view any images. Maybe a
strange interaction between both ends or a router somewhere in the middle?
I like a good mystery I'll keep reading.
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Re: [users@httpd] New discovery
Posted by Alex Pilson <al...@flagshipinteractive.com>.
At 12:41 AM +0000 12/3/02, Tim McCormick wrote:
>Ok, I think I've found what's happening to my server, but I still don't
>know why. It has nothing to do with Flash.
>
>Anyone who does not connect to the internet directly cannot access
>anything other than plain HTML from the site (not even pictures).
>According to the logs the files get sent out, but they never arrive.
>
>Any insights as to what could be the problem?
I had seen that problem when I had a T-1 with Savvis. It was a router issue.
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[users@httpd] New discovery
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
Ok, I think I've found what's happening to my server, but I still don't
know why. It has nothing to do with Flash.
Anyone who does not connect to the internet directly cannot access
anything other than plain HTML from the site (not even pictures).
According to the logs the files get sent out, but they never arrive.
Any insights as to what could be the problem?
Server: 2.0.43, Windows Binary
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Posted by Apache <ap...@productivitymedia.com>.
My bad... The problem is with the his HTML tags or the use of Frames.
I use Flash everyday with frames and I'm on the list thus also use
Apache. Just program one page name in index.html and insert only the
<object> and <embed> tags with no frames and check it out.
J
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Posted by Chris Meadors <cl...@hereintown.net>.
Apache wrote:
> I use both Apache and Flash... over 80% of the browsers have flash in
> some from, but problem your have is not from Apache or Flash. It's your
> HTML and the frame you set-up. Your must use the <OBJECT> tag for
> Netscape browsers and the <EMBED> tag for IE users. You have not used
> them in your index.html or the html page is not showing up in your frame
> page.
It's the other way around, IE uses <object> and NS <embed>, Mozilla also
uses <object> now, and that is what is recommended by the W3C. But the
poster also said all the original visitors that were having trouble,
were using IE6.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash - answer...
Posted by Apache <ap...@productivitymedia.com>.
I use both Apache and Flash... over 80% of the browsers have flash in
some from, but problem your have is not from Apache or Flash. It's
your HTML and the frame you set-up. Your must use the <OBJECT> tag for
Netscape browsers and the <EMBED> tag for IE users. You have not used
them in your index.html or the html page is not showing up in your
frame page.
Next time ask people who use the program. Check with Flash user sites.
J
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by "J. Greenlees" <ja...@shaw.ca>.
well, I just checked it, it loaded the missing plugin glyph fine.
( no flash capability wanted )
though I did notice one thing about the frameset source:
<html>
<head>
<title>www.timmcc.co.uk</title>
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0" frameborder="0" framespacing="0"
framecolor="#000000">
<frame src="http://217.42.49.139" name="Easyspace">
</frameset>
<noframes><strong></strong><div ID="390"><em></em></div><div
ID="607"></div>
shouldn't this:
Your browser doesn't appear to support frames - please click
<a href="http://217.42.49.139">here</a> to view the site.
be in these format tags:
<noframes><strong></strong><div ID="390"><em></em>
the no framesupport comment won't have the bold or italic emphasis if it
isn't, and if you didn't want itemphasised, you don't need the tags.
Alex \"Sniper\" Togstad wrote:
> Ya, I thought about doing a trace route earlyier to see if it was me, and
> not itw as not.
>
> I can get to the plain page, but not the main domain... I still don't know.
> Something HAS to be set wrong ... or something...I have never ran into this
> problem.
>
> Traceroute:
> C:\WINNT\system32>tracert www.timmcc.co.uk
>
> Tracing route to www.timmcc.co.uk [216.167.114.177]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 1 16 ms 15 ms <10 ms 10.138.112.1
> 2 31 ms <10 ms 16 ms 12.244.84.209
> 3 15 ms 16 ms <10 ms 12.244.64.149
> 4 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 12.244.72.38
> 5 32 ms 15 ms 16 ms gbr1-p60.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.123.44.114]
> 6 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms gbr3-p70.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.5.157]
> 7 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms gbr4-p40.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.2.197]
> 8 31 ms 32 ms 32 ms ggr1-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.69]
> 9 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
> [129.250.9.29]
> 10 31 ms 47 ms * p16-0-1-0.r20.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
> [129.250.3.78]
> 11 78 ms 110 ms 78 ms p16-5-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
> [129.250.2.193]
> 12 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms p16-7-0-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
> [129.250.5.11]
> 13 94 ms 94 ms 125 ms p4-9-0.a00.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
> [129.250.17.58]
> 14 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms ge-5-0.a01.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
> [129.250.61.10]
> 15 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms ge0031.ed2.wdc.dn.net [216.167.88.124]
> 16 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms linux1184b.easyspace.com [216.167.114.177]
>
> Trace complete.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Turner" <kk...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>
>>Steven Pierce wrote:
>>
>>>Alex Togstad wrote: <-- added, gt
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>>I just want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh* be my
>>>
> crappy
>
>>>>attbi dns servers tho.
>>>
>>Alex, you might try running traceroute and ping to test the net.
>>
>>>Alex,
>>>
>>>It is not you, it is the site. I went to the site also, and it was
>>
> coming up blank.
>
>>>I looked at the code on the site, and it is does not have much on it.
>>
>>I've looked at the site before, so DNS cache is probably alive. After
>>clearing the page cache, a get took about 0.6 sec. A subsequent get to
>>217.42.49.139 takes about 0.38 sec, and the reload about 0.33 sec. So
>>the site seems OK.
>>
>>For the most part, I consider frames and flash a PITA. This page isn't
>>bad, though.
>>
>>--
>>gt kk5st@sbcglobal.net
>> If someone tells you---
>> "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny."
>> ---they don't.
>>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Tim,
I see one issue is that you have two IP addresses pointing to the same place.
The one you did a trace route on is not the same one that I looked at before.
So that could be a big issue.
Are you running this on a box you have, or an ISP???
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On 12/1/2002 at 11:55 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>How about if you just trace the IP? 217.42.49.139
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alex "Sniper" Togstad [mailto:sniper@3dretreat.com]
>Sent: 01 December 2002 23:48
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>Ya, I thought about doing a trace route earlyier to see if it was me,
>and not itw as not.
>
>I can get to the plain page, but not the main domain... I still don't
>know. Something HAS to be set wrong ... or something...I have never ran
>into this problem.
>
>Traceroute:
>C:\WINNT\system32>tracert www.timmcc.co.uk
>
>Tracing route to www.timmcc.co.uk [216.167.114.177]
>over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 1 16 ms 15 ms <10 ms 10.138.112.1
> 2 31 ms <10 ms 16 ms 12.244.84.209
> 3 15 ms 16 ms <10 ms 12.244.64.149
> 4 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 12.244.72.38
> 5 32 ms 15 ms 16 ms gbr1-p60.st6wa.ip.att.net
>[12.123.44.114]
> 6 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms gbr3-p70.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.5.157]
> 7 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms gbr4-p40.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.2.197]
> 8 31 ms 32 ms 32 ms ggr1-p370.sffca.ip.att.net
>[12.123.13.69]
> 9 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
>[129.250.9.29]
> 10 31 ms 47 ms * p16-0-1-0.r20.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
>[129.250.3.78]
> 11 78 ms 110 ms 78 ms p16-5-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
>[129.250.2.193]
> 12 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms p16-7-0-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
>[129.250.5.11]
> 13 94 ms 94 ms 125 ms p4-9-0.a00.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
>[129.250.17.58]
> 14 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms ge-5-0.a01.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
>[129.250.61.10]
> 15 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms ge0031.ed2.wdc.dn.net [216.167.88.124]
> 16 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms linux1184b.easyspace.com
>[216.167.114.177]
>
>Trace complete.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gary Turner" <kk...@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>> Steven Pierce wrote:
>> >Alex Togstad wrote: <-- added, gt
>>
>> <snip>
>> >> I just want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh*
>> >> be my
>crappy
>> >>attbi dns servers tho.
>>
>> Alex, you might try running traceroute and ping to test the net.
>> >
>> >Alex,
>> >
>> >It is not you, it is the site. I went to the site also, and it was
>coming up blank.
>> >I looked at the code on the site, and it is does not have much on it.
>>
>> I've looked at the site before, so DNS cache is probably alive. After
>
>> clearing the page cache, a get took about 0.6 sec. A subsequent get
>> to 217.42.49.139 takes about 0.38 sec, and the reload about 0.33 sec.
>
>> So the site seems OK.
>>
>> For the most part, I consider frames and flash a PITA. This page
>> isn't bad, though.
>>
>> --
>> gt kk5st@sbcglobal.net
>> If someone tells you---
>> "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny."
>> ---they don't.
>>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
How about if you just trace the IP? 217.42.49.139
Tim McCormick
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex "Sniper" Togstad [mailto:sniper@3dretreat.com]
Sent: 01 December 2002 23:48
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Ya, I thought about doing a trace route earlyier to see if it was me,
and not itw as not.
I can get to the plain page, but not the main domain... I still don't
know. Something HAS to be set wrong ... or something...I have never ran
into this problem.
Traceroute:
C:\WINNT\system32>tracert www.timmcc.co.uk
Tracing route to www.timmcc.co.uk [216.167.114.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 16 ms 15 ms <10 ms 10.138.112.1
2 31 ms <10 ms 16 ms 12.244.84.209
3 15 ms 16 ms <10 ms 12.244.64.149
4 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 12.244.72.38
5 32 ms 15 ms 16 ms gbr1-p60.st6wa.ip.att.net
[12.123.44.114]
6 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms gbr3-p70.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.5.157]
7 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms gbr4-p40.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.2.197]
8 31 ms 32 ms 32 ms ggr1-p370.sffca.ip.att.net
[12.123.13.69]
9 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.9.29]
10 31 ms 47 ms * p16-0-1-0.r20.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.3.78]
11 78 ms 110 ms 78 ms p16-5-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.2.193]
12 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms p16-7-0-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.5.11]
13 94 ms 94 ms 125 ms p4-9-0.a00.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
[129.250.17.58]
14 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms ge-5-0.a01.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
[129.250.61.10]
15 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms ge0031.ed2.wdc.dn.net [216.167.88.124]
16 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms linux1184b.easyspace.com
[216.167.114.177]
Trace complete.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Turner" <kk...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
> Steven Pierce wrote:
> >Alex Togstad wrote: <-- added, gt
>
> <snip>
> >> I just want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh*
> >> be my
crappy
> >>attbi dns servers tho.
>
> Alex, you might try running traceroute and ping to test the net.
> >
> >Alex,
> >
> >It is not you, it is the site. I went to the site also, and it was
coming up blank.
> >I looked at the code on the site, and it is does not have much on it.
>
> I've looked at the site before, so DNS cache is probably alive. After
> clearing the page cache, a get took about 0.6 sec. A subsequent get
> to 217.42.49.139 takes about 0.38 sec, and the reload about 0.33 sec.
> So the site seems OK.
>
> For the most part, I consider frames and flash a PITA. This page
> isn't bad, though.
>
> --
> gt kk5st@sbcglobal.net
> If someone tells you---
> "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny."
> ---they don't.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by "Alex \"Sniper\" Togstad" <sn...@3dretreat.com>.
Ya, I thought about doing a trace route earlyier to see if it was me, and
not itw as not.
I can get to the plain page, but not the main domain... I still don't know.
Something HAS to be set wrong ... or something...I have never ran into this
problem.
Traceroute:
C:\WINNT\system32>tracert www.timmcc.co.uk
Tracing route to www.timmcc.co.uk [216.167.114.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 16 ms 15 ms <10 ms 10.138.112.1
2 31 ms <10 ms 16 ms 12.244.84.209
3 15 ms 16 ms <10 ms 12.244.64.149
4 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 12.244.72.38
5 32 ms 15 ms 16 ms gbr1-p60.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.123.44.114]
6 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms gbr3-p70.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.5.157]
7 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms gbr4-p40.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.2.197]
8 31 ms 32 ms 32 ms ggr1-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.69]
9 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.9.29]
10 31 ms 47 ms * p16-0-1-0.r20.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.3.78]
11 78 ms 110 ms 78 ms p16-5-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.2.193]
12 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms p16-7-0-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.5.11]
13 94 ms 94 ms 125 ms p4-9-0.a00.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
[129.250.17.58]
14 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms ge-5-0.a01.alxnva02.us.da.verio.net
[129.250.61.10]
15 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms ge0031.ed2.wdc.dn.net [216.167.88.124]
16 94 ms 94 ms 109 ms linux1184b.easyspace.com [216.167.114.177]
Trace complete.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Turner" <kk...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
> Steven Pierce wrote:
> >Alex Togstad wrote: <-- added, gt
>
> <snip>
> >> I just want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh* be my
crappy
> >>attbi dns servers tho.
>
> Alex, you might try running traceroute and ping to test the net.
> >
> >Alex,
> >
> >It is not you, it is the site. I went to the site also, and it was
coming up blank.
> >I looked at the code on the site, and it is does not have much on it.
>
> I've looked at the site before, so DNS cache is probably alive. After
> clearing the page cache, a get took about 0.6 sec. A subsequent get to
> 217.42.49.139 takes about 0.38 sec, and the reload about 0.33 sec. So
> the site seems OK.
>
> For the most part, I consider frames and flash a PITA. This page isn't
> bad, though.
>
> --
> gt kk5st@sbcglobal.net
> If someone tells you---
> "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny."
> ---they don't.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Gary Turner <kk...@sbcglobal.net>.
Steven Pierce wrote:
>Alex Togstad wrote: <-- added, gt
<snip>
>> I just want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh* be my crappy
>>attbi dns servers tho.
Alex, you might try running traceroute and ping to test the net.
>
>Alex,
>
>It is not you, it is the site. I went to the site also, and it was coming up blank.
>I looked at the code on the site, and it is does not have much on it.
I've looked at the site before, so DNS cache is probably alive. After
clearing the page cache, a get took about 0.6 sec. A subsequent get to
217.42.49.139 takes about 0.38 sec, and the reload about 0.33 sec. So
the site seems OK.
For the most part, I consider frames and flash a PITA. This page isn't
bad, though.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Joseph A Nagy Jr <pa...@charter.net>.
Steven Pierce wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Are you pointing the to a flash file? I have not used flash on a site before. I am
> still working with HTML mainly. Yes, it did work OK with the plain HTML file.
>
> I guess we need to start with the basics. You are using Apache X? What O/S are
> you using?? How are you point the files (flash) on the site?? I looked at the code you
> had from the IP listed site. I did not see anything that pointed to swf for your
> site. All I saw was some information for Macromedia's site..
>
>
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>>BT, I don't think that is the problem as no-one has a problem with
>>normal HTML pages. I have provided one at
>>http://www.timmcc.co.uk/plain.htm to prove it to you ;-)
>>
>>Tim McCormick
>>
>>
<snip>
This is weird. All you folks are having such problems while I can view both the HTML and Flash pages
no problem (and the flash loads up perfectly and smoothly).
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Tim,
Are you pointing the to a flash file? I have not used flash on a site before. I am
still working with HTML mainly. Yes, it did work OK with the plain HTML file.
I guess we need to start with the basics. You are using Apache X? What O/S are
you using?? How are you point the files (flash) on the site?? I looked at the code you
had from the IP listed site. I did not see anything that pointed to swf for your
site. All I saw was some information for Macromedia's site..
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On 12/1/2002 at 11:28 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>BT, I don't think that is the problem as no-one has a problem with
>normal HTML pages. I have provided one at
>http://www.timmcc.co.uk/plain.htm to prove it to you ;-)
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
>Sent: 01 December 2002 23:22
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>
>
>Tim,
>
>Who is your server provider?? Maybe they are having a issue.
>
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>On 12/1/2002 at 11:22 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
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>>I don't understand what is wrong with the server at all.
>>
>>Surely someone out there has the answer?
>>
>>Why would some be able to view it but not others? Makes no sense.
>>
>>Tim McCormick
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
>>Sent: 01 December 2002 23:12
>>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>>Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>>
>>
>>
>>Ok.. I am still not able to view the site at all.
>>
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>>>The code you got was due to the cloaked URL redirection I think.
>>>
>>>Tim McCormick
>>>
>>>
>>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
BT, I don't think that is the problem as no-one has a problem with
normal HTML pages. I have provided one at
http://www.timmcc.co.uk/plain.htm to prove it to you ;-)
Tim McCormick
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
Sent: 01 December 2002 23:22
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Tim,
Who is your server provider?? Maybe they are having a issue.
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>I don't understand what is wrong with the server at all.
>
>Surely someone out there has the answer?
>
>Why would some be able to view it but not others? Makes no sense.
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
>Sent: 01 December 2002 23:12
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>
>Ok.. I am still not able to view the site at all.
>
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>On 12/1/2002 at 10:34 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
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>>The code you got was due to the cloaked URL redirection I think.
>>
>>Tim McCormick
>>
>>
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Tim,
Who is your server provider?? Maybe they are having a issue.
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On 12/1/2002 at 11:22 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>I don't understand what is wrong with the server at all.
>
>Surely someone out there has the answer?
>
>Why would some be able to view it but not others? Makes no sense.
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
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>Sent: 01 December 2002 23:12
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>
>Ok.. I am still not able to view the site at all.
>
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>>The code you got was due to the cloaked URL redirection I think.
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>>Tim McCormick
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
I don't understand what is wrong with the server at all.
Surely someone out there has the answer?
Why would some be able to view it but not others? Makes no sense.
Tim McCormick
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
Sent: 01 December 2002 23:12
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Ok.. I am still not able to view the site at all.
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>The code you got was due to the cloaked URL redirection I think.
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Ok.. I am still not able to view the site at all.
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On 12/1/2002 at 10:34 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>The code you got was due to the cloaked URL redirection I think.
>
>Tim McCormick
>
>
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>Sent: 01 December 2002 22:27
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>
>
>Tim,
>
>Yes, that code is on the site http://217.42.49.139 if you got to the
>site that was listed in the orginal message the code I gave was
>what was on the site. So what site are we talking about
>at this point???
>
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>On 12/1/2002 at 9:31 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
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>>Hrm..... The HTML on the site is actually:
>>
>><HTML>
>><HEAD>
>><TITLE>Under Construction</TITLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
>><!-- URL's used in the movie-->
>><!-- text used in the movie-->
>><!--timmcc.co.uk coming soon... --><OBJECT
>>classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
>>
>>codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swfla
>>s
>>h.cab#version=5,0,0,0"
>> WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600>
>> <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="constuction.swf"> <PARAM NAME=loop
>>VALUE=false> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor
>>VALUE=#FFFFFF>
>> <EMBED src="constuction.swf" loop=false quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF
>>WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"
>>PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_
>P
>>rod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED></OBJECT>
>></BODY>
>></HTML>
>>
>>Perhaps it's the domain name provider, try going directly to
>>http://217.42.49.139 and see what HTML is served instead.
>>
>>The Flash file is only about 3k.
>>
>>Tim McCormick
>>
>>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
The code you got was due to the cloaked URL redirection I think.
Tim McCormick
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Pierce [mailto:pagedev1@speakeasy.net]
Sent: 01 December 2002 22:27
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Tim,
Yes, that code is on the site http://217.42.49.139 if you got to the
site that was listed in the orginal message the code I gave was
what was on the site. So what site are we talking about
at this point???
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>Hrm..... The HTML on the site is actually:
>
><HTML>
><HEAD>
><TITLE>Under Construction</TITLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
><!-- URL's used in the movie-->
><!-- text used in the movie-->
><!--timmcc.co.uk coming soon... --><OBJECT
>classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
>
>codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swfla
>s
>h.cab#version=5,0,0,0"
> WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600>
> <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="constuction.swf"> <PARAM NAME=loop
>VALUE=false> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor
>VALUE=#FFFFFF>
> <EMBED src="constuction.swf" loop=false quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF
>WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"
>PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_
P
>rod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED></OBJECT>
></BODY>
></HTML>
>
>Perhaps it's the domain name provider, try going directly to
>http://217.42.49.139 and see what HTML is served instead.
>
>The Flash file is only about 3k.
>
>Tim McCormick
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Tim,
Yes, that code is on the site http://217.42.49.139 if you got to the
site that was listed in the orginal message the code I gave was
what was on the site. So what site are we talking about
at this point???
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On 12/1/2002 at 9:31 PM Tim McCormick wrote:
>Hrm..... The HTML on the site is actually:
>
><HTML>
><HEAD>
><TITLE>Under Construction</TITLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
><!-- URL's used in the movie-->
><!-- text used in the movie-->
><!--timmcc.co.uk coming soon... --><OBJECT
>classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
>
>codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflas
>h.cab#version=5,0,0,0"
> WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600>
> <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="constuction.swf"> <PARAM NAME=loop
>VALUE=false> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor
>VALUE=#FFFFFF>
> <EMBED src="constuction.swf" loop=false quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF
>WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"
>PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_P
>rod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED></OBJECT>
></BODY>
></HTML>
>
>Perhaps it's the domain name provider, try going directly to
>http://217.42.49.139 and see what HTML is served instead.
>
>The Flash file is only about 3k.
>
>Tim McCormick
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Tim McCormick <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>.
Hrm..... The HTML on the site is actually:
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Under Construction</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<!-- URL's used in the movie-->
<!-- text used in the movie-->
<!--timmcc.co.uk coming soon... --><OBJECT
classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflas
h.cab#version=5,0,0,0"
WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600>
<PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="constuction.swf"> <PARAM NAME=loop
VALUE=false> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor
VALUE=#FFFFFF>
<EMBED src="constuction.swf" loop=false quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF
WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"
PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_P
rod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED></OBJECT>
</BODY>
</HTML>
Perhaps it's the domain name provider, try going directly to
http://217.42.49.139 and see what HTML is served instead.
The Flash file is only about 3k.
Tim McCormick
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Alex,
It is not you, it is the site. I went to the site also, and it was coming up blank.
I looked at the code on the site, and it is does not have much on it.
<html>
<head>
<title>www.timmcc.co.uk</title>
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0" frameborder="0" framespacing="0" framecolor="#000000">
<frame src="http://217.42.49.139" name="Easyspace">
</frameset>
<noframes><strong></strong><b><i></i></b><b></b>
Your browser doesn't appear to support frames - please click
<a href="http://217.42.49.139">here</a> to view the site.
<div ID="065"></div><em><div ID="504"></div></em><strong></strong></noframes>
</html>
Is the code from the site. Even the IP address takes you no where.
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On 12/1/2002 at 12:57 PM Alex \ Togstad wrote:
>I have NO idea how much, or how little flash you have on your site:
>www.timmcc.co.uk But I have been waiting for it to load for about 20min now
>and I'm on cable.
>
>How big is your site? How big are the flash files?
>
> I can ping your site fine (around 80ms average) but something is taking to
>long to load. I'm thinking it *might* be the flashes movies, but not sure.
>This never has happened to me before with flash sites so I have no idea.
>
>My suggestion is make an index page with plain text, and then have a link
>going to the flash pages, and another link going to a different page. I
>just
>want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh* be my crappy
>attbi dns servers tho.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>----
>Alex Togstad
>Web Developer
>alextogstad@3dretreat.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J. Greenlees" <ja...@shaw.ca>
>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>> not everyone has flash,
>> no everyone has ie of any version.
>> I don't, and did say so.
>> I also pointed out that flash is so slow in loading that I don't stay on
>> flash sites, and I know 75% of people that responed to a survey I
>> conducted say the same. flash is bad for a business site, it costs them
>> customers.
>>
>> Tim McCormick wrote:
>> > Ok, yes everyone has Flash installed already. They're all also using
>> > IE6.
>> >
>> > Server has not been down nor getting heavy traffic.
>> >
>> > So what else could be up?
>> >
>> > Seems to me that people behind a firewall are having trouble accessing
>> > the Flash content. However they don't have problems with any other
>Flash
>> > pages. It's not the file either because it works for them if I upload
>it
>> > to another server.
>> >
>> > Anyone know what could possibly be wrong?
>> >
>> > Tim McCormick
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by "Alex \"Sniper\" Togstad" <sn...@3dretreat.com>.
I have NO idea how much, or how little flash you have on your site:
www.timmcc.co.uk But I have been waiting for it to load for about 20min now
and I'm on cable.
How big is your site? How big are the flash files?
I can ping your site fine (around 80ms average) but something is taking to
long to load. I'm thinking it *might* be the flashes movies, but not sure.
This never has happened to me before with flash sites so I have no idea.
My suggestion is make an index page with plain text, and then have a link
going to the flash pages, and another link going to a different page. I just
want to see if I'm able to even go to your site. It *migh* be my crappy
attbi dns servers tho.
Good Luck!
----
Alex Togstad
Web Developer
alextogstad@3dretreat.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Greenlees" <ja...@shaw.ca>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
> not everyone has flash,
> no everyone has ie of any version.
> I don't, and did say so.
> I also pointed out that flash is so slow in loading that I don't stay on
> flash sites, and I know 75% of people that responed to a survey I
> conducted say the same. flash is bad for a business site, it costs them
> customers.
>
> Tim McCormick wrote:
> > Ok, yes everyone has Flash installed already. They're all also using
> > IE6.
> >
> > Server has not been down nor getting heavy traffic.
> >
> > So what else could be up?
> >
> > Seems to me that people behind a firewall are having trouble accessing
> > the Flash content. However they don't have problems with any other Flash
> > pages. It's not the file either because it works for them if I upload it
> > to another server.
> >
> > Anyone know what could possibly be wrong?
> >
> > Tim McCormick
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
Posted by "J. Greenlees" <ja...@shaw.ca>.
not everyone has flash,
no everyone has ie of any version.
I don't, and did say so.
I also pointed out that flash is so slow in loading that I don't stay on
flash sites, and I know 75% of people that responed to a survey I
conducted say the same. flash is bad for a business site, it costs them
customers.
Tim McCormick wrote:
> Ok, yes everyone has Flash installed already. They're all also using
> IE6.
>
> Server has not been down nor getting heavy traffic.
>
> So what else could be up?
>
> Seems to me that people behind a firewall are having trouble accessing
> the Flash content. However they don't have problems with any other Flash
> pages. It's not the file either because it works for them if I upload it
> to another server.
>
> Anyone know what could possibly be wrong?
>
> Tim McCormick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex "Sniper" Togstad [mailto:sniper@3dretreat.com]
> Sent: 30 November 2002 21:57
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
> Well, for the people that HAVE flashed installed, they will be able to
> see it.
>
> For the people that can't see it, they *should* be promted to download
> flash and install it. IF not they need to install the flash viewer from
> macromedia.com and install it.
>
> Also, what browsers are people using?
>
> IE 6.0 here..
>
> Your page wont even load... Server must be down, or its getting heavy
> traffic, or something else is up . . .
>
> ----
> Alex Togstad
> Web Developer
> alextogstad@3dretreat.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim McCormick" <ti...@timmcc.co.uk>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>
>
>
>>I'm still puzzled, it appears to work on some peoples computers, but
>>not others.
>>
>>Any idea why this might be?
>>
>>Tim McCormick
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chris Meadors [mailto:clubneon@hereintown.net]
>>Sent: 30 November 2002 04:51
>>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and Flash
>>
>>
>>Tim McCormick wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I'm sure you're all tired of this question but here goes:
>>>
>>>Whenever I try and load a flash page from Apache using
>>>http://localhost it works fine. However when people from outside the
>>
>
>>>network attempt to access it the browser says 'waiting for reply'
>>>and never gets any further. The log shows the request for the .htm
>>>file but not the .swf file.
>>>
>>>And yes, I have already tried the 'mime type' solution.
>>>
>>>For the record I'm running 2.0.43 on WinXP and the sites address is
>>>http://www.timmcc.co.uk/ where the index file is a flash one.
>>
>>Works for me. The frameset it pointing to an IP not a hostname, but
>>other than that I see the flash.
>>
>>--
>>Chris
>>
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