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Issue tracking
Hi,
I am in the process of tidying up the issue tracking systems used by the
turbine projects. The biggest change is that we are predominantly going to
use an instance of the turbine based Scarab issue tracking system (from
tigris.org) that is installed at werken.com (Bob McWhirter's site on a box
belonging to Bob and Jason van Zyl - thanks guys). This instance was set up
as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain
the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab.
Bob has suggested that we set up an apache.org hostname for the box to make
it easier if it becomes necessary to migrate to another system in the
future. I thought it would be a good idea to run this past the general
Jakarta list prior to making a request to root@apache.org.
In summary here is what we want to do:
1. Request the host name scarab.apache.org be set up to point to the same
address as scarab.werken.com
2. Update http://issues.apache.org/ to de-emphasise the
issues.apache.org/scarab install (now used only by OJB) and to include a
reference to the new scarab.apache.org instance (note that OBJ guys are
being invited to migrate over to the maintained Scarab instance).
3. Organize for bugzilla to no longer accept turbine issues.
Please speak up if you have any comments or concerns about this. It has
been discussed on the turbine-dev list with no objections.
Cheers,
Scott
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com> writes:
> Daniel is the Eyebrowse kingpin so if he wants access to the
> rackspace box he's welcome to setup Eyebrowse there.
EB requires access to the mbox files which are the mailing list
archives. The only way I've setup EB so far is with lists hosted on
the same box that EB is installed on. We're having a similar issue
with the TCL mailing lists.
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 12:09, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> Fine... Less work for me... Want to get also BugZilla and Eyebrowse on
> there?
I'm not interested in looking at Bugzilla so if that can stay at Nagoya
that would be appreciated. Daniel is the Eyebrowse kingpin so if he
wants access to the rackspace box he's welcome to setup Eyebrowse there.
> Pier
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
"Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 05:16, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
>> On 26/9/02 3:04, "Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am in the process of tidying up the issue tracking systems used by the
>>> turbine projects. The biggest change is that we are predominantly going to
>>> use an instance of the turbine based Scarab issue tracking system (from
>>> tigris.org) that is installed at werken.com (Bob McWhirter's site on a box
>>> belonging to Bob and Jason van Zyl - thanks guys). This instance was set up
>>> as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain
>>> the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab.
>>>
>>> Bob has suggested that we set up an apache.org hostname for the box to make
>>> it easier if it becomes necessary to migrate to another system in the
>>> future. I thought it would be a good idea to run this past the general
>>> Jakarta list prior to making a request to root@apache.org.
>>>
>>> In summary here is what we want to do:
>>>
>>> 1. Request the host name scarab.apache.org be set up to point to the same
>>> address as scarab.werken.com
>>> 2. Update http://issues.apache.org/ to de-emphasise the
>>> issues.apache.org/scarab install (now used only by OJB) and to include a
>>> reference to the new scarab.apache.org instance (note that OBJ guys are
>>> being invited to migrate over to the maintained Scarab instance).
>>> 3. Organize for bugzilla to no longer accept turbine issues.
>>>
>>> Please speak up if you have any comments or concerns about this. It has
>>> been discussed on the turbine-dev list with no objections.
>>
>> We already have a setup of Scarab on nagoya.apache.org, which of course is
>> _already_ has an alias as issues.apache.org....
>>
>> If you want to use scarab, use nagoya and update that installation, let's
>> not redo the whole thing again and again and again...
>
> We're not doing it again and again. We're doing it once more in a place
> where we know that we can get hold of people taking care of the box and
> don't have to deal with a Sun box. There are a group of us taking care
> of that machine and we would prefer to do it there than have it on
> nagoya. I am personally against putting anything on Nagoya as getting
> hold of you has proved difficult at times (I'm well aware you're
> volunteering your time) and I hate Sun boxes and find them amazingly
> annoying to work on. I would like to dump the scarab install on nagoya
> and use the rackspace managed box that we have. It's just less work for
> everyone and we are more comfortable hosting Scarab there.
Fine... Less work for me... Want to get also BugZilla and Eyebrowse on
there?
Pier
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 05:16, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> On 26/9/02 3:04, "Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am in the process of tidying up the issue tracking systems used by the
> > turbine projects. The biggest change is that we are predominantly going to
> > use an instance of the turbine based Scarab issue tracking system (from
> > tigris.org) that is installed at werken.com (Bob McWhirter's site on a box
> > belonging to Bob and Jason van Zyl - thanks guys). This instance was set up
> > as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain
> > the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab.
> >
> > Bob has suggested that we set up an apache.org hostname for the box to make
> > it easier if it becomes necessary to migrate to another system in the
> > future. I thought it would be a good idea to run this past the general
> > Jakarta list prior to making a request to root@apache.org.
> >
> > In summary here is what we want to do:
> >
> > 1. Request the host name scarab.apache.org be set up to point to the same
> > address as scarab.werken.com
> > 2. Update http://issues.apache.org/ to de-emphasise the
> > issues.apache.org/scarab install (now used only by OJB) and to include a
> > reference to the new scarab.apache.org instance (note that OBJ guys are
> > being invited to migrate over to the maintained Scarab instance).
> > 3. Organize for bugzilla to no longer accept turbine issues.
> >
> > Please speak up if you have any comments or concerns about this. It has
> > been discussed on the turbine-dev list with no objections.
>
> We already have a setup of Scarab on nagoya.apache.org, which of course is
> _already_ has an alias as issues.apache.org....
>
> If you want to use scarab, use nagoya and update that installation, let's
> not redo the whole thing again and again and again...
We're not doing it again and again. We're doing it once more in a place
where we know that we can get hold of people taking care of the box and
don't have to deal with a Sun box. There are a group of us taking care
of that machine and we would prefer to do it there than have it on
nagoya. I am personally against putting anything on Nagoya as getting
hold of you has proved difficult at times (I'm well aware you're
volunteering your time) and I hate Sun boxes and find them amazingly
annoying to work on. I would like to dump the scarab install on nagoya
and use the rackspace managed box that we have. It's just less work for
everyone and we are more comfortable hosting Scarab there.
> Pier
>
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
IIRC /opt/mysql/bin/mysqlclient
Pier
On 27/9/02 2:47 am, "John McNally" <jm...@collab.net> wrote:
> Thank you. Now is there a mysql client on this box?
>
> john mcnally
>
> On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 17:31, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
>> On 26/9/02 22:54, "Pier Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Emacs? I don¹t see the reason for a 25 megs editor on a server machine
>>
>> Err... Correction, just compiled version 21.2 and it's actually 121 Mb...
>> It's as big as my entire home server operating system (NetBSD 1.6)... DOH!
>>
>> Oh, good old beloved "vi" (220 Kb)
>>
>> Pier
>>
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by John McNally <jm...@collab.net>.
Thank you. Now is there a mysql client on this box?
john mcnally
On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 17:31, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> On 26/9/02 22:54, "Pier Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org> wrote:
>
> > Emacs? I don¹t see the reason for a 25 megs editor on a server machine
>
> Err... Correction, just compiled version 21.2 and it's actually 121 Mb...
> It's as big as my entire home server operating system (NetBSD 1.6)... DOH!
>
> Oh, good old beloved "vi" (220 Kb)
>
> Pier
>
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 26/9/02 22:54, "Pier Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org> wrote:
> Emacs? I don¹t see the reason for a 25 megs editor on a server machine
Err... Correction, just compiled version 21.2 and it's actually 121 Mb...
It's as big as my entire home server operating system (NetBSD 1.6)... DOH!
Oh, good old beloved "vi" (220 Kb)
Pier
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 26/9/02 19:43, "John McNally" <jm...@collab.net> wrote:
> I made a request for access to nagoya so that I could take over
> maintenance of the scarab installation there. I never heard back from
> you; I would/should have followed up, but Jason made the offer of the
> werken.com box so I took him up on it.
Sorry, never got it... Last requests I got were Ryan Bloom, Dirk-Willem van
Gulik and Bob Hermann (looking at my archives).
> I don't see a reason to keep two instances of scarab going. No one is
> maintaining the one on nagoya. And if the decision is going to be that
> it has to be on nagoya or else... I will work towards that as I see no
> reason to fight over it. I like the werken.com setup of linux and a
> working up-to-date emacs installation, but hopefully nagoya at least has
> the later?
Emacs? I don¹t see the reason for a 25 megs editor on a server machine, but
hey, anyone has his wishes... If you need it I think it's going to take no
more than 5 minutes to recompile.
Pier
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by John McNally <jm...@collab.net>.
I made a request for access to nagoya so that I could take over
maintenance of the scarab installation there. I never heard back from
you; I would/should have followed up, but Jason made the offer of the
werken.com box so I took him up on it.
I don't see a reason to keep two instances of scarab going. No one is
maintaining the one on nagoya. And if the decision is going to be that
it has to be on nagoya or else... I will work towards that as I see no
reason to fight over it. I like the werken.com setup of linux and a
working up-to-date emacs installation, but hopefully nagoya at least has
the later?
john mcnally
On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 03:10, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> "Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
>
> >> From: Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>
> >>> On 26/9/02 3:04, "Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This instance was set up
> >>> as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain
> >>> the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab.
> >>
> >> We already have a setup of Scarab on nagoya.apache.org, which of course is
> >> _already_ has an alias as issues.apache.org....
> >>
> >> If you want to use scarab, use nagoya and update that installation, let's
> >> not redo the whole thing again and again and again...
> >
> > As stated in the original message, it was deemed to difficult to obtain the
> > necessary access to maintain the instance on nagoya. As things currently
> > stand we have the nagoya instance that is un-maintained with only one
> > project using it and we have the up-to-date werken instance with one project
> > actively using it (and four more that have agreed to) and two people
> > committed to maintaining it. The newer instance is hosted at a very ASF
> > friendly location who are happy to provide their resources and the access
> > necessary to maintain it. Why not follow the path of least resistance?
>
> Sorry, if you had troubles accessing Nagoya, it has been most definitely my
> fault. The original idea to set up Scarab on Nagoya was that once some
> projects had the confidence of the install, all other projects would have
> moved as well, so, I still think that installing it on a central location is
> a good idea...
>
> If you, Jason and Bob want to maintain that instance, just let me know and
> I'll grant appropriate karma, otherwise, I believe that at the end we'll
> have 3 bug tracking systems: two on nagoya, and one wherever you guys want
> to put it... :-/
>
> Pier
>
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au>.
> From: Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>
>
> Sorry, if you had troubles accessing Nagoya, it has been most definitely my
> fault. The original idea to set up Scarab on Nagoya was that once some
> projects had the confidence of the install, all other projects would have
> moved as well, so, I still think that installing it on a central location is
> a good idea...
>
> If you, Jason and Bob want to maintain that instance, just let me know and
> I'll grant appropriate karma, otherwise, I believe that at the end we'll
> have 3 bug tracking systems: two on nagoya, and one wherever you guys want
> to put it... :-/
I'll ask back on turbine-dev and see if there is a general consensus. It is
actually John McNally and Stephen Haberman that have volunteered to maintain
the install, so it is in large part up to them (Bob and Jason were just our
gracious hosts). The trouble is of course that we already have an active
project on each of the two scarab installs :-(
Thanks,
Scott
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
"Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
>> From: Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>
>>> On 26/9/02 3:04, "Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> This instance was set up
>>> as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain
>>> the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab.
>>
>> We already have a setup of Scarab on nagoya.apache.org, which of course is
>> _already_ has an alias as issues.apache.org....
>>
>> If you want to use scarab, use nagoya and update that installation, let's
>> not redo the whole thing again and again and again...
>
> As stated in the original message, it was deemed to difficult to obtain the
> necessary access to maintain the instance on nagoya. As things currently
> stand we have the nagoya instance that is un-maintained with only one
> project using it and we have the up-to-date werken instance with one project
> actively using it (and four more that have agreed to) and two people
> committed to maintaining it. The newer instance is hosted at a very ASF
> friendly location who are happy to provide their resources and the access
> necessary to maintain it. Why not follow the path of least resistance?
Sorry, if you had troubles accessing Nagoya, it has been most definitely my
fault. The original idea to set up Scarab on Nagoya was that once some
projects had the confidence of the install, all other projects would have
moved as well, so, I still think that installing it on a central location is
a good idea...
If you, Jason and Bob want to maintain that instance, just let me know and
I'll grant appropriate karma, otherwise, I believe that at the end we'll
have 3 bug tracking systems: two on nagoya, and one wherever you guys want
to put it... :-/
Pier
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au>.
> From: Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>
>> On 26/9/02 3:04, "Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
>
>> This instance was set up
>> as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain
>> the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab.
>
> We already have a setup of Scarab on nagoya.apache.org, which of course is
> _already_ has an alias as issues.apache.org....
>
> If you want to use scarab, use nagoya and update that installation, let's
> not redo the whole thing again and again and again...
As stated in the original message, it was deemed to difficult to obtain the
necessary access to maintain the instance on nagoya. As things currently
stand we have the nagoya instance that is un-maintained with only one
project using it and we have the up-to-date werken instance with one project
actively using it (and four more that have agreed to) and two people
committed to maintaining it. The newer instance is hosted at a very ASF
friendly location who are happy to provide their resources and the access
necessary to maintain it. Why not follow the path of least resistance?
Scott
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Re: Issue tracking
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 26/9/02 3:04, "Scott Eade" <se...@backstagetech.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am in the process of tidying up the issue tracking systems used by the
> turbine projects. The biggest change is that we are predominantly going to
> use an instance of the turbine based Scarab issue tracking system (from
> tigris.org) that is installed at werken.com (Bob McWhirter's site on a box
> belonging to Bob and Jason van Zyl - thanks guys). This instance was set up
> as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain
> the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab.
>
> Bob has suggested that we set up an apache.org hostname for the box to make
> it easier if it becomes necessary to migrate to another system in the
> future. I thought it would be a good idea to run this past the general
> Jakarta list prior to making a request to root@apache.org.
>
> In summary here is what we want to do:
>
> 1. Request the host name scarab.apache.org be set up to point to the same
> address as scarab.werken.com
> 2. Update http://issues.apache.org/ to de-emphasise the
> issues.apache.org/scarab install (now used only by OJB) and to include a
> reference to the new scarab.apache.org instance (note that OBJ guys are
> being invited to migrate over to the maintained Scarab instance).
> 3. Organize for bugzilla to no longer accept turbine issues.
>
> Please speak up if you have any comments or concerns about this. It has
> been discussed on the turbine-dev list with no objections.
We already have a setup of Scarab on nagoya.apache.org, which of course is
_already_ has an alias as issues.apache.org....
If you want to use scarab, use nagoya and update that installation, let's
not redo the whole thing again and again and again...
Pier
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