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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net> on 2013/11/23 14:03:02 UTC
"ab" and SNI
Hi
is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI headers?
https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
for each https-request fro "ab" the target servers floods one line into log
[Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.592232 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 28314] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
based virtual host
[Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.594877 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27315] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
based virtual host
[Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.598552 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27317] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
based virtual host
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 23.11.2013 16:48, schrieb Jeff Trawick:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net
>
> Am 23.11.2013 16:13, schrieb Eric Covener:
> > I don't think this list is appropriate for this issue.
>
> then state it without cynicism and disrespect
>
> > Further, I think your emails in this thread are flippant
>
> there is nothing flippant in asking questions
>
> > and demeaning to the volunteers here
>
> maybe consider not assume bad intentions from everybody
> which is not a reputable core-maintainer
>
> > I personally de-prioritize thinking about issues framed in this way
>
> what is "this way"?
>
> maybe assume that non-native speakers phrase things different
> without any bad intention
>
> > I should also add that I see a pattern here, in case my response seems
> > disproportionate
>
> explain what you believe that you see instead throw fog candles hence
>
> if that is the attitude of the http-devel list i should unsubscribe here
> after mod_security works fine with Apache 2.4 behind a reverse-proxy
> since I (as stupid user which should be quite - that is how your attitude
> sounds like) spent my energy at the begin of 2013 to find out where the
> problem is, where it can be solved and you hardly can tell me that no others
> benefit from the result - the definition of a community is also users and
> the topic is *not* appropriate for the users-list
>
> hence if you have a personal problem state it or leave me in peace
>
> My impression from reading your posts is that you are needlessly combative and impatient
combative maybe if someone responds with a "shut up user" attitude
impatient? i asked a question and i am facing this over many months
if i would be impatient i had asked the question long ago
call me impatient would be reasonable if i send daily a "ping"
> at the same time that you have an understandable need for others on the list to
> dedicate time to your queries and reports. This is usually a bad combination.
that is simply not true
a simple answer "noticed, not high priority, but noticed" would have
fnished the whole thread without any need to respond with cynicism
and disrespect
> Talk of unsubscribing or your value to the community is unnecessary
it is unnecessary?
it is the logical consequence of beeing undesirable
> The situation is the same for you as for anyone else:
> If you are softer in your approach then more people will take time to assist
my intention in the inital post was not to be "unsoft" or somehow else bad
that's the simple history of the initial posting
* i found the flood in the logs again
* i called "ab --help", there is nothing about SNI
* i called "man ab", there is no manpage
* i typed https://www.google.at/search?q=ab+benchmark+sni
* i found that there is a solutionwhich is worth to be upstream
not today, not tomorrow, sooner or later in whatever release
> (Before you respond, realize that it is easier for me or anyone else to simply ignore you than it is to try
> imperfectly to give hints for better interaction.)
appreciated
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Jeff Trawick <tr...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>wrote:
>
> Am 23.11.2013 16:13, schrieb Eric Covener:
> >>>>> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not
> send SNI headers?
> >>>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ask Meena perhaps? She's quite harmless
> >>>>
> >>>> you missed what i asked - in fact why there are patches needed
> >>>> why does "ab -c 100 -n 500000 https://www.test.rh/" not send SNI
> headers and flood logs
> >>>
> >>> The code wrote, built, and tested itself, but we removed it out of
> spite
> >>
> >> sorry that i offended you in bringing on-list things i noticed and
> forced
> >> you to throw around cynicism - maybe i better not waste my time to point
> >> out things which could be improved before i learned C++ to apply changes
> >> myself
> >
> > I don't think this list is appropriate for this issue.
>
> then state it without cynicism and disrespect
>
> > Further, I think your emails in this thread are flippant
>
> there is nothing flippant in asking questions
>
> > and demeaning to the volunteers here
>
> maybe consider not assume bad intentions from everybody
> which is not a reputable core-maintainer
>
> > I personally de-prioritize thinking about issues framed in this way
>
> what is "this way"?
>
> maybe assume that non-native speakers phrase things different
> without any bad intention
>
> > I should also add that I see a pattern here, in case my response seems
> > disproportionate
>
> explain what you believe that you see instead throw fog candles hence
>
> if that is the attitude of the http-devel list i should unsubscribe here
> after mod_security works fine with Apache 2.4 behind a reverse-proxy
> since I (as stupid user which should be quite - that is how your attitude
> sounds like) spent my energy at the begin of 2013 to find out where the
> problem is, where it can be solved and you hardly can tell me that no
> others
> benefit from the result - the definition of a community is also users and
> the topic is *not* appropriate for the users-list
>
> hence if you have a personal problem state it or leave me in peace
>
>
My impression from reading your posts is that you are needlessly combative
and impatient, at the same time that you have an understandable need for
others on the list to dedicate time to your queries and reports. This is
usually a bad combination.
Talk of unsubscribing or your value to the community is unnecessary. The
situation is the same for you as for anyone else: If you are softer in
your approach then more people will take time to assist.
(Before you respond, realize that it is easier for me or anyone else to
simply ignore you than it is to try imperfectly to give hints for better
interaction.)
Sincerely!
--
Born in Roswell... married an alien...
http://emptyhammock.com/
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 23.11.2013 16:13, schrieb Eric Covener:
>>>>> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI headers?
>>>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask Meena perhaps? She's quite harmless
>>>>
>>>> you missed what i asked - in fact why there are patches needed
>>>> why does "ab -c 100 -n 500000 https://www.test.rh/" not send SNI headers and flood logs
>>>
>>> The code wrote, built, and tested itself, but we removed it out of spite
>>
>> sorry that i offended you in bringing on-list things i noticed and forced
>> you to throw around cynicism - maybe i better not waste my time to point
>> out things which could be improved before i learned C++ to apply changes
>> myself
>
> I don't think this list is appropriate for this issue.
then state it without cynicism and disrespect
> Further, I think your emails in this thread are flippant
there is nothing flippant in asking questions
> and demeaning to the volunteers here
maybe consider not assume bad intentions from everybody
which is not a reputable core-maintainer
> I personally de-prioritize thinking about issues framed in this way
what is "this way"?
maybe assume that non-native speakers phrase things different
without any bad intention
> I should also add that I see a pattern here, in case my response seems
> disproportionate
explain what you believe that you see instead throw fog candles hence
if that is the attitude of the http-devel list i should unsubscribe here
after mod_security works fine with Apache 2.4 behind a reverse-proxy
since I (as stupid user which should be quite - that is how your attitude
sounds like) spent my energy at the begin of 2013 to find out where the
problem is, where it can be solved and you hardly can tell me that no others
benefit from the result - the definition of a community is also users and
the topic is *not* appropriate for the users-list
hence if you have a personal problem state it or leave me in peace
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
I should also add that I see a pattern here, in case my response seems
disproportionate.
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
>>>> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI headers?
>>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
>>>>
>>>> Ask Meena perhaps? She's quite harmless
>>>
>>> you missed what i asked - in fact why there are patches needed
>>> why does "ab -c 100 -n 500000 https://www.test.rh/" not send SNI headers and flood logs
>>
>> The code wrote, built, and tested itself, but we removed it out of spite
>
> sorry that i offended you in bringing on-list things i noticed and forced
> you to throw around cynicism - maybe i better not waste my time to point
> out things which could be improved before i learned C++ to apply changes
> myself
>
I don't think this list is appropriate for this issue.
Further, I think your emails in this thread are flippant and demeaning
to the volunteers here.
I personally de-prioritize thinking about issues framed in this way.
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 23.11.2013 15:44, schrieb Eric Covener:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net> wrote:
>>
>> Am 23.11.2013 14:22, schrieb Jeff Trawick:
>>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net:
>>>
>>> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI headers?
>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
>>>
>>> for each https-request fro "ab" the target servers floods one line into log
>>>
>>> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.592232 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 28314] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
>>> based virtual host
>>> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.594877 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27315] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
>>> based virtual host
>>> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.598552 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27317] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
>>> based virtual host
>>>
>>> Ask Meena perhaps? She's quite harmless
>>
>> you missed what i asked - in fact why there are patches needed
>> why does "ab -c 100 -n 500000 https://www.test.rh/" not send SNI headers and flood logs
>
> The code wrote, built, and tested itself, but we removed it out of spite
sorry that i offended you in bringing on-list things i noticed and forced
you to throw around cynicism - maybe i better not waste my time to point
out things which could be improved before i learned C++ to apply changes
myself
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net> wrote:
>
> Am 23.11.2013 14:22, schrieb Jeff Trawick:
>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net <ma...@thelounge.net>> wrote:
>>
>> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI headers?
>> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
>>
>> for each https-request fro "ab" the target servers floods one line into log
>>
>> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.592232 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 28314] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
>> based virtual host
>> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.594877 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27315] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
>> based virtual host
>> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.598552 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27317] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
>> based virtual host
>>
>> Ask Meena perhaps? She's quite harmless
>
> you missed what i asked - in fact why there are patches needed
> why does "ab -c 100 -n 500000 https://www.test.rh/" not send SNI headers and flood logs
The code wrote, built, and tested itself, but we removed it out of spite.
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>.
Am 23.11.2013 14:22, schrieb Jeff Trawick:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net <ma...@thelounge.net>> wrote:
>
> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI headers?
> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
>
> for each https-request fro "ab" the target servers floods one line into log
>
> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.592232 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 28314] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
> based virtual host
> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.594877 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27315] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
> based virtual host
> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.598552 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27317] AH02033: No hostname was provided via SNI for a name
> based virtual host
>
> Ask Meena perhaps? She's quite harmless
you missed what i asked - in fact why there are patches needed
why does "ab -c 100 -n 500000 https://www.test.rh/" not send SNI headers and flood logs
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Jeff Trawick <tr...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net>wrote:
> Hi
>
> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI
> headers?
> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
>
> for each https-request fro "ab" the target servers floods one line into log
>
> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.592232 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 28314] AH02033: No
> hostname was provided via SNI for a name
> based virtual host
> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.594877 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27315] AH02033: No
> hostname was provided via SNI for a name
> based virtual host
> [Sat Nov 23 14:00:33.598552 2013] [ssl:error] [pid 27317] AH02033: No
> hostname was provided via SNI for a name
> based virtual host
>
>
>
Ask Meena perhaps? She's quite harmless.
--
Born in Roswell... married an alien...
http://emptyhammock.com/
Re: "ab" and SNI
Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net> wrote:
> Hi
>
> is there something wrong with these patches or why does "ab" not send SNI headers?
> https://blogs.oracle.com/meena/entry/apachebench_ab_and_sni
I suggest using bugzilla.